wireless phone, fax and internet

Hi,
I've just built a study in my shed and have all my musical gear and
computer out here. I've set up a wireless router and network card to
handle the internet side, but I'd also like to have the phone and fax
out here (two separate pstn numbers). Is there a way I can get them
out here without running wires?

TIA


Brett

Electric Monk wrote:
> Hi,
> I've just built a study in my shed and have all my musical gear and
> computer out here. I've set up a wireless router and network card to
> handle the internet side, but I'd also like to have the phone and fax
> out here (two separate pstn numbers). Is there a way I can get them
> out here without running wires?

Two VoIP units.

Sipura SPA3000
http://www.sipura.com/products/spa3000.htm

Linksys used to resell it with their own package branding, but still called
it the SPA300. Unfortunately Linksys no longer sells it as I haven't seen
it on their website.

Whatever VoIP devices you get, they have to have both an FXS and FXO port.

DTC wrote:
> Electric Monk wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've just built a study in my shed and have all my musical gear and
>> computer out here. I've set up a wireless router and network card to
>> handle the internet side, but I'd also like to have the phone and fax
>> out here (two separate pstn numbers). Is there a way I can get them
>> out here without running wires?
>
> Two VoIP units.
>
> Sipura SPA3000
> http://www.sipura.com/products/spa3000.htm
>
> Linksys used to resell it with their own package branding, but still
> called it the SPA300. Unfortunately Linksys no longer sells it as I
> haven't seen it on their website.
>
> Whatever VoIP devices you get, they have to have both an FXS and FXO port.


Actually FOUR units...a pair for each line. You can get by with just two,
one at each end, but that involves more hardware.

Electric Monk wrote:
> Hi,
> I've just built a study in my shed and have all my musical gear and
> computer out here. I've set up a wireless router and network card to
> handle the internet side, but I'd also like to have the phone and fax
> out here (two separate pstn numbers). Is there a way I can get them
> out here without running wires?
>
> TIA
>
>
> Brett
>
It can of course be done with wireless , but run the wires , overhead or
underground will cost very little and is at least reasonably secure .

Electric Monk wrote:
> Hi,
> I've just built a study in my shed and have all my musical gear and
> computer out here. I've set up a wireless router and network card to
> handle the internet side, but I'd also like to have the phone and fax
> out here (two separate pstn numbers). Is there a way I can get them
> out here without running wires?
>
> TIA
>
>
> Brett

Obviously you have electric out there... In my shed I used phone over the
power line (about $60 see http://www.smarthome.com/4509i.html ) You can set
the codes via dip switches, and have multiple phone lines over one powerline

>
> Obviously you have electric out there... In my shed I used phone over the
> power line (about $60 seehttp://www.smarthome.com/4509i.html) You can set
> the codes via dip switches, and have multiple phone lines over one powerline

Well, I was hoping for wireless electricity too! <g>
I've heard about computer networking over electricity circuit before.
It's an interesting approach, I'll have to check with them to see if
a) it will work with ADSL, b) if it is approved for use in Australia
and c) if there's a way I can get it to work when the shed and the
house are on different circuits

thanks!


brett

Electric Monk wrote:
>> Obviously you have electric out there... In my shed I used phone
>> over the power line (about $60
>> seehttp://www.smarthome.com/4509i.html) You can set the codes via
>> dip switches, and have multiple phone lines over one powerline
>
> Well, I was hoping for wireless electricity too! <g>
> I've heard about computer networking over electricity circuit before.
> It's an interesting approach, I'll have to check with them to see if
> a) it will work with ADSL, b) if it is approved for use in Australia
> and c) if there's a way I can get it to work when the shed and the
> house are on different circuits
>
> thanks!
>
>
> brett

Works wih the ethernet output of an adsl modem, don't know about B), but for
c) the circuits part is where most people get confused.. it's actually the
same phase/leg off a transformer/(ships a generator), circuits are what most
people think are just on the same breaker/fuse.. Does power to the shed come
off the house, or is there a seperate transformer (with it's own meter)
feeding it?

"Electric Monk" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>> Obviously you have electric out there... In my shed I used phone over the
>> power line (about $60 seehttp://www.smarthome.com/4509i.html) You can set
>> the codes via dip switches, and have multiple phone lines over one powerline

>Well, I was hoping for wireless electricity too! <g>
>I've heard about computer networking over electricity circuit before.

See:
<http://www.homeplug.com>
for clues and vendors.

>It's an interesting approach, I'll have to check with them to see if
>a) it will work with ADSL,

No. It only works with ethernet, not the DSL signal. It will bridge
the ethernet coming out of the DSL modem to the router, or one of the
router ports to your computahs ethernet port.

>b) if it is approved for use in Australia
>and

It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.

Well, HomePlug is sold in Australia, so it must be legal:
<http://www.streetwise.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=4888>
etc...

>c) if there's a way I can get it to work when the shed and the
>house are on different circuits

What you want is an X10 "signal bridge" or "passive coupler".
<http://www.smarthome.com/4815x.html>
except for 240VAC. There are also amplified couplers and repeaters.


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> Works wih the ethernet output of an adsl modem, don't know about B), but for
> c) the circuits part is where most people get confused.. it's actually the
> same phase/leg off a transformer/(ships a generator), circuits are what most
> people think are just on the same breaker/fuse.. Does power to the shed come
> off the house, or is there a seperate transformer (with it's own meter)
> feeding it?- Hide quoted text -
>
It doesn't have it's own meter, but it does have it's own breaker/
fuse. There's one for lights, one for power to the east side of the
house, one for the west and one for the shed.
I contacted the company in the link, but they're Canada only. That
doesn't matter, though, it's all technology. If it can be done,
there'll be another company over here that does it.

Electric Monk wrote:
>> Works wih the ethernet output of an adsl modem, don't know about B),
>> but for c) the circuits part is where most people get confused..
>> it's actually the same phase/leg off a transformer/(ships a
>> generator), circuits are what most people think are just on the same
>> breaker/fuse.. Does power to the shed come off the house, or is
>> there a seperate transformer (with it's own meter) feeding it?- Hide
>> quoted text -
>>
> It doesn't have it's own meter, but it does have it's own breaker/
> fuse. There's one for lights, one for power to the east side of the
> house, one for the west and one for the shed.
> I contacted the company in the link, but they're Canada only. That
> doesn't matter, though, it's all technology. If it can be done,
> there'll be another company over here that does it.

As i understand it, there are many places selling it, I just happen to get
it from them and had that link handy (for netgear).. Have anything like
smart home in your country? Maybe a search on powerline networking? Think
the standard voltage there may be different too At any rate, most people
confuse the power leg/phase (usually whatever come off the meter) with the
multiple circuits off the breaker panel.. glad to see you got that figgered
out... At any rate, been using it for a while and it works great (specially
on metal hulled ships were wireless won't), don't have a clue why people are
so hesitant to even consider it.