Wireless network, two wireless routers?

I already have a Linksys wireless router I am using with my current DSL
setup, no problem.

Now my DSL company has passed out new Zyxel DSL modems that are also
wireless routers!

What I would like to do, if it's possible, is to plug the DSL
Modem/router in (it has to be there, but I don't have to turn on the
wireless option) then use one of the ports to connect to my Linksys
router in another room. There is aleady a hard wired cable running
between my current router to a desktop PC in the location I want to put
the Linksys router, so there is no extra cable I need to run. My hope
is to extend the coverage of my wireless network so I get better signal
strength everywhere in my house (right now it's low at the farthest
point from my current router).

So can I have both routers connected and working like this?

I know next to nothing about networking, I did well to get my current
configuarion working.

So any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Larry

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>I already have a Linksys wireless router I am using with my current DSL
> setup, no problem.
>
> Now my DSL company has passed out new Zyxel DSL modems that are also
> wireless routers!
>
> What I would like to do, if it's possible, is to plug the DSL
> Modem/router in (it has to be there, but I don't have to turn on the
> wireless option) then use one of the ports to connect to my Linksys
> router in another room. There is aleady a hard wired cable running
> between my current router to a desktop PC in the location I want to put
> the Linksys router, so there is no extra cable I need to run. My hope
> is to extend the coverage of my wireless network so I get better signal
> strength everywhere in my house (right now it's low at the farthest
> point from my current router).
>
> So can I have both routers connected and working like this?
>
> I know next to nothing about networking, I did well to get my current
> configuarion working.
>
> So any thoughts/help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Larry

I believe that what you need to do is connect the two routers by two LAN
posrts, not using teh WAN port on the Linksys. You then need to disable
DHCP on the Linksys (as the first router issues IP addresses). If the Zyxel
is 192.168.1.1, then set the Linksys to 192.168.1.2 (all other details teh
same as the Zyxel).

To achieve your goal of extending wireless coverage, leave the WiFi on for
both routers.

Thank you, I hadn't thought about the DHCP.

Since I don't know any better, I won't use the WAN port, but to educate
me, can you tell me why?

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> Thank you, I hadn't thought about the DHCP.
>
> Since I don't know any better, I won't use the WAN port, but to educate
> me, can you tell me why?
>
>

If you plugged the zyxel into the linksys wan port, everytime you went
from using one routers wireless signal to the other (such as moving to a
different room), your ip address would change to an address within the
scope/subnet of the other router. And turning off DHCP wouldn't work,
because once you switched rooms, your IP address wouldn't work with the
other router.

Do as __spc__ says, and also remember to set the SSID and wireless
channel the same. Most adapters will allow you to roam freely between
the 2 without stopping or having to configure anything.

Smowk

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In <Xns9759A813CA2CCsmowkyahoocom@216.196.97.131> on Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:31:24
-0600, smowk <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Do as __spc__ says, and also remember to set the SSID and wireless
>channel the same. Most adapters will allow you to roam freely between
>the 2 without stopping or having to configure anything.

Same SSID, but different non-overlapping channels (1, 6, 11) to avoid
interference.

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> [POSTED TO alt.internet.wireless - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <Xns9759A813CA2CCsmowkyahoocom@216.196.97.131> on Sat, 28
> Jan 2006 15:31:24 -0600, smowk <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Do as __spc__ says, and also remember to set the SSID and
>>wireless channel the same. Most adapters will allow you to
>>roam freely between the 2 without stopping or having to
>>configure anything.
>
> Same SSID, but different non-overlapping channels (1, 6, 11) to
> avoid interference.
>

oops

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> In <Xns9759A813CA2CCsmowkyahoocom@216.196.97.131> on Sat, 28 Jan 2006
> 15:31:24
> -0600, smowk <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Do as __spc__ says, and also remember to set the SSID and wireless
>>channel the same. Most adapters will allow you to roam freely between
>>the 2 without stopping or having to configure anything.
>
> Same SSID, but different non-overlapping channels (1, 6, 11) to avoid
> interference.
>
> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR ALT.INTERNET.WIRELESS AT
> John Navas
> <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FAQ_for_alt.internet.wireless>

Does that hold true for two routers in WDS? Same SSID but different
channels? The tutorial I followed
(http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.p...showpage&pid=7
; site down at the minute) had same WiFi channel on both routers.

"__spc__" <s p a m t i m e @ n t l w o r l d . c o m> hath wroth:

>Does that hold true for two routers in WDS? Same SSID but different
>channels? The tutorial I followed
>(http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.p...showpage&pid=7
>; site down at the minute) had same WiFi channel on both routers.

"509 Bandwidth limit exceeded"
End of the month quota blues?

WDS acts as a store and forward repeater, which means EVERYTHING has
to be on the same RF channel, use the same SSID, and use the same
encryption method and key. The idea behind WDS is to allow an access
point to simultaneously act as a repeater and to allow clients to
connect.


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So when I look for a wireless network now and see "MyHome" (I know real
inventive) I should set them both to that same name? I thought I would
have MyHome and MyHome2, so I'm glad you clarified this.

I'm not sure what channels you are talking about, but I bet I can find
them when I start to look ath te setup for both routers.

What about the WEP key? I assume I should set it the same on both of
them?

Another question occured to me this morning. Right now I access the
linksys router configuration by going to address 192.168.1.1 in my
browser. When I plugin the Zyxel, I assume that's the default address
for it too. How will I access both router configurations once they are
connected? Should I change the LinkSys before I plug in the Zyxel, or
am I worrying about nothing?

BTW, I really appreciate all the help and comments from everyone.

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "__spc__" <s p a m t i m e @ n t l w o r l d . c o m> hath wroth:
>
>>Does that hold true for two routers in WDS? Same SSID but different
>>channels? The tutorial I followed
>>(http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.p...showpage&pid=7
>>; site down at the minute) had same WiFi channel on both routers.
>
> "509 Bandwidth limit exceeded"
> End of the month quota blues?

I know, I know - popular site, many hits, I hope this gets sorted soon.
[And I got this link from you in another thread, Jeff, so I thought I'd
paste it again, as it's more useful than saying "Google for it..."

> WDS acts as a store and forward repeater, which means EVERYTHING has
> to be on the same RF channel, use the same SSID, and use the same
> encryption method and key. The idea behind WDS is to allow an access
> point to simultaneously act as a repeater and to allow clients to
> connect.

I have router 1 on channel 1, and router 2 on channel 6. Having today
repositioned router 2 and the aerial on my most distant WLAN desktop,
slightly, to optimise signal, this desktop now gets 54 Mbps connection
speeds. Previously, with just router 1, it was at 18Mbps, and with the
introduction of router 2/WDS also on channel 1, this rate improved to
36Mbps.

Before I set the two channels back to being the same (dumb question coming),
do I ABSOLUTELY have to the same channels for WDS? It all seems to work
fine on different channels. Netstumbler on the desktop shows router 2 to be
by far a stronger signal, and I can access the router config pages of both
routers from both PCs on the WLAN.

WDS with the two routers on different channels seems to work great...

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