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Adam Lipscombe
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      09-22-2006, 08:57 AM
Folks,


I have a standard 11g wireless network operating from a 2Wire 2700HGV router (aka BT "Business
Hub"). My neighbours have recently complained that their sky TV reception is bad - apparently the
reception pixellates and loses sound. They are convinced that its my wireless network interfering,
as they have noticed that is worse when I am working.


I have never heard of this - Is this possible?
If so what can be done to reduce or eliminate interference?
Change wireless channels?
Or install another piece of kit?



Thanks - Adam
 
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Geoff Winkless
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      09-22-2006, 09:15 AM
Adam Lipscombe wrote:

> I have a standard 11g wireless network operating from a 2Wire 2700HGV
> router (aka BT "Business Hub"). My neighbours have recently complained
> that their sky TV reception is bad - apparently the reception pixellates
> and loses sound. They are convinced that its my wireless network
> interfering, as they have noticed that is worse when I am working.
>
> I have never heard of this - Is this possible?


No.

Geoff
 
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Peter Crosland
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      09-22-2006, 09:25 AM
> I have a standard 11g wireless network operating from a 2Wire 2700HGV
> router (aka BT "Business Hub"). My neighbours have recently
> complained that their sky TV reception is bad - apparently the
> reception pixellates and loses sound. They are convinced that its my
> wireless network interfering, as they have noticed that is worse when
> I am working.
>
> I have never heard of this - Is this possible?
> If so what can be done to reduce or eliminate interference?
> Change wireless channels?
> Or install another piece of kit?


Are they using a video sender using frequencies close to your wireless
network? Otherwise it seems unlikely.

Peter Crosland


 
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dennis@home
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      09-22-2006, 09:32 AM

"Adam Lipscombe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Folks,
>
>
> I have a standard 11g wireless network operating from a 2Wire 2700HGV
> router (aka BT "Business Hub"). My neighbours have recently complained
> that their sky TV reception is bad - apparently the reception pixellates
> and loses sound. They are convinced that its my wireless network
> interfering, as they have noticed that is worse when I am working.
>
>
> I have never heard of this - Is this possible?


Yes its possible.
But its not very likely and would require a faulty router and/or a faulty
Sky.

Do they use a wireless video sender?
These operate on the same frequency as the 11g wireless LAN.
You can get picture interference if they are together.

Either problem can probably be reduced by moving the wireless farther away
if its possible.

> If so what can be done to reduce or eliminate interference?
> Change wireless channels?
> Or install another piece of kit?


You could got to 802.11a but its not cheap.
Best to get them to fix their Sky.


 
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Richard Parkin
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      09-22-2006, 09:35 AM

"Adam Lipscombe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Folks,
>
>
> I have a standard 11g wireless network operating from a 2Wire 2700HGV
> router (aka BT "Business Hub"). My neighbours have recently complained
> that their sky TV reception is bad - apparently the reception pixellates
> and loses sound. They are convinced that its my wireless network
> interfering, as they have noticed that is worse when I am working.
>
>
> I have never heard of this - Is this possible?
> If so what can be done to reduce or eliminate interference?
> Change wireless channels?
> Or install another piece of kit?


It's possible, but I would count it fairly unlikely on a satellite system -
it is far more likely to be a an issue with your neighbour's system. It
should be noted though that us Radio Amateurs have a long history of having
to deal with TVI, and experience shows that blaming a neighbours poorly
designed or installed TV equipment doesn't go down at all well

You can contact OFCOM and ask them to send an engineer out to check on the
cause of the interference, but they can (and often do) charge for this so
you are better off trying to resolve it yourself; powering down your WiFi
and see if the problem persists would be an obvious first step.

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Richard Parkin

Roll on October 1, 1993...


 
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Geoff Winkless
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      09-22-2006, 10:28 AM
Richard Parkin wrote:
> You can contact OFCOM and ask them to send an engineer out to check on the
> cause of the interference, but they can (and often do) charge for this so
> you are better off trying to resolve it yourself; powering down your WiFi
> and see if the problem persists would be an obvious first step.


But don't _tell_ them you've done it, obviously.

Geoff
 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      09-22-2006, 05:11 PM
Adam Lipscombe <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I have a standard 11g wireless network operating from a 2Wire 2700HGV router (aka BT "Business
>Hub"). My neighbours have recently complained that their sky TV reception is bad - apparently the
>reception pixellates and loses sound. They are convinced that its my wireless network interfering,
>as they have noticed that is worse when I am working.


Sounds like there hasn't been any effort made to isolate the problem
or the source. Rhetorical questions to ask:

1. Is it all the time or intermittent inteference?

2. Is it on all channels or just some channels? Is there any pattern
to the channels the show interference.

3. Pixelation and loss of sound are symptoms of lack of signal. What
does the settop box signal strength show? A marginal signal will
cause these symptoms without outside interference.

4. How far away is his antenna and his set top box from your
wireless? Just curious as a sanity check.

5. Is his RG-6/u coax cable from the dish to the settop box properly
crimped? An exposed shield anywhere along the line will allow
external signal to enter. It will also cause some signal loss which
kinda sounds like what he's setting.

>I have never heard of this - Is this possible?
>If so what can be done to reduce or eliminate interference?
>Change wireless channels?
>Or install another piece of kit?


It's possible but very unlikely.

1. The DBS satellite receiver downconverts from 12-13GHz to 0.950 to
about 2200MHz. It's the 2200MHz that's a problem. Your 2.4GHz signal
might be sneaking into his settop box and causing problems. However,
it would take a very strong signal to do this, and it would only
appear on some channels, not all channels. See question #2 above.

2. Is your neighbor using a 2.4Ghz wireless TV extension (i.e. X10)?
Your wireless device can certainly interfere with those. Same with an
802.11g wireless video extension.

I really doubt that you're the cause of the neighbors problem.
However, you might be helpful in explaining that there's little your
access point can do to cause general signal loss and that re-aligning
the dish or repairing the coax cable might be a good idea.

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      09-22-2006, 05:22 PM
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:15:43 +0100, Geoff Winkless wrote:

> Adam Lipscombe wrote:
>
>> I have a standard 11g wireless network operating from a 2Wire 2700HGV
>> router (aka BT "Business Hub"). My neighbours have recently complained
>> that their sky TV reception is bad - apparently the reception pixellates
>> and loses sound. They are convinced that its my wireless network
>> interfering, as they have noticed that is worse when I am working.
>>
>> I have never heard of this - Is this possible?

>
> No.
>
> Geoff


Very broad statement as you don't know all the circumstances!!!

Dave

 
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      09-22-2006, 06:03 PM
Geoff Winkless wrote:
> Richard Parkin wrote:
>> You can contact OFCOM and ask them to send an engineer out to check on the
>> cause of the interference, but they can (and often do) charge for this so
>> you are better off trying to resolve it yourself; powering down your WiFi
>> and see if the problem persists would be an obvious first step.

>
> But don't _tell_ them you've done it, obviously.
>

Do it the other way, tell them you've powered off when you haven't. That
way, if they say it's gone away then it's obviously not your problem and
if they say no change then it's obviously not your problem either
because your stuff was 'off'.

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Mark McIntyre
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      09-22-2006, 08:00 PM
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:22:08 +0100, in alt.internet.wireless , gort
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>Very broad statement as you don't know all the circumstances!!!


Please come up with a plausible way for 2.4Ghz signals to interfere
with shielded coax cable (other than by wrapping the coax round the
wireless router, or somesuch...!).

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