Wireless network fails during a long file transfer

Win 98SE ethernet wired to a wireless router, wireless network to an XP
Home machine.

During a long file transfer from my 98SE machine to the XP machine, I
keep getting an error message saying the network is no longer available.
I have turned off power saving on both machines and neither appears to
go into power saving mode during the transfer. The XP machine has power
saving enabled in the BIOS but includes settings to reset the timers if
there is any hard disk activity vi primary or secondary IDE controllers
- which should mean that the system never powers down. The wireless
adapter on the XP machine is set in Device Manager to disable power saving.

Short transfers work fine.

What should I be checking to troubleshoot this please? I really would
like to be able to transfer BootIt disk image files from my wife's small
2nd hard drive, for storage on my own larger hard drive.

Many thanks.


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This is a known problem with Windows networks,
not related to power management at all.
It it is caused either by network drivers or maybe it is a bug in Windows.
The bottom line is that you won't get it fixed for win98.

There are some utilities for copying large files over LAN
that overcome this bug.

A better solution is an external USB disk.

Regards,
--PA

"Robert M Jones" wrote:
> Win 98SE ethernet wired to a wireless router, wireless network to an XP
> Home machine.
>
> During a long file transfer from my 98SE machine to the XP machine, I
> keep getting an error message saying the network is no longer available.
> I have turned off power saving on both machines and neither appears to
> go into power saving mode during the transfer. The XP machine has power
> saving enabled in the BIOS but includes settings to reset the timers if
> there is any hard disk activity vi primary or secondary IDE controllers
> - which should mean that the system never powers down. The wireless
> adapter on the XP machine is set in Device Manager to disable power saving.
>
> Short transfers work fine.
>
> What should I be checking to troubleshoot this please? I really would
> like to be able to transfer BootIt disk image files from my wife's small
> 2nd hard drive, for storage on my own larger hard drive.
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> --
> Rev Robert M Jones, Wimborne Baptist Church, UK

Pavel A. wrote:
> This is a known problem with Windows networks,
> not related to power management at all.
> It it is caused either by network drivers or maybe it is a bug in Windows.
> The bottom line is that you won't get it fixed for win98.
>
> There are some utilities for copying large files over LAN
> that overcome this bug.
>
> A better solution is an external USB disk.
>
> Regards,
> --PA


>

Okay thanks Pavel. That's depressing. Any of those LAN file transfer
"utilities" free by any chance?
And would the same thing happen in DOS if I can somehow get my Ghost
2003 to find the right NDIS drivers for my ethernet card?

Is there some sort of "keep alive" utility?

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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:29:02 -0700, Pavel A. wrote:

> This is a known problem with Windows networks,
> not related to power management at all.
> It it is caused either by network drivers or maybe it is a bug in Windows.
> The bottom line is that you won't get it fixed for win98.
>
> There are some utilities for copying large files over LAN
> that overcome this bug.
>
> A better solution is an external USB disk.
>
> Regards,
> --PA
>
<snip>
Hogwash. Large files copy fine. I'd check for wifi interference (microwave,
telephone, neighbour, etc.), corrupted drivers, conflict between 3rd party
wifi utility and XP wifi utility, ...

BS & Paranoia wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:29:02 -0700, Pavel A. wrote:
>
>> This is a known problem with Windows networks,
>> not related to power management at all.
>> It it is caused either by network drivers or maybe it is a bug in Windows.
>> The bottom line is that you won't get it fixed for win98.
>>
>> There are some utilities for copying large files over LAN
>> that overcome this bug.
>>
>> A better solution is an external USB disk.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --PA
>>
> <snip>
> Hogwash. Large files copy fine. I'd check for wifi interference (microwave,
> telephone, neighbour, etc.), corrupted drivers, conflict between 3rd party
> wifi utility and XP wifi utility, ...

Thanks.
Interference - no evidence of network dropping when I am actively using
it, browsing etc. It does NOT drop except when I leave it alone handling
a large file transfer. My main XP connection to the router is wireless,
and then it is ethernet to the Win98SE machine.

Corrupted drivers - again - no evidence of instability in normal use.

Conflict between wifi utility and XP wifi utility - the 3rd party
utility is the one in charge, XP does not manage the connection. Again
no problems EXCEPT when making an unattended large file transfer.

Do you have any suggestions for a network that is fine and stable EXCEPT
when doing large unattended file transfers? - after about five minutes I
lose it. But I can browse, do email, newsgroups etc. for far longer than
that and not see any disconnection. In fact I don't think I have EVER
seen a spontaneous network disconnection while I have been pounding away
at my XP keyboard.

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(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> On 26-Jul-2006, Robert M Jones <robert53newsgroups-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Do you have any suggestions for a network that is fine and stable EXCEPT
>> when doing large unattended file transfers?
>
> If it were a common problem P2P wouldn't be viable, I leave my
> WinXP pro downloading overnight because things download
> much faster from about midnight on. A full CD is a sizeable download.
> I assume overnight speed is higher because of ISP traffic shaping,
> or maybe more seeds appear.

I'm not actually doing P2P in that sense (via internet) but just my one
other networked machine.

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