Wireless netwerk fails and works again after router off/on

Hi,

I share my wireless network with two others and lately at some time all of
us can no longer internet/email. After I switch the router off and turn it
on again everything seems to work fine again. Until an undefined amount of
time...

Signal strength remains excellent always. I have a Daytrek Vigor 2600 We.

Anyone have a clue??

Thanx!!! Jeroen

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:30 +0100, "Jeroen Moolhuijsen" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I share my wireless network with two others and lately at some time all of
>us can no longer internet/email. After I switch the router off and turn it
>on again everything seems to work fine again. Until an undefined amount of
>time...
>
>Signal strength remains excellent always. I have a Daytrek Vigor 2600 We.
>Anyone have a clue??
>Thanx!!! Jeroen

Yeah. Your router might be getting attacked from the internet by
various tools or evil people. See:
http://www.pcflank.com
and try the "Exploits Test". My BEFW11S4v4 hangs on two of these (I
forgot which ones). A power cycle is necessary to recover.


--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff,

thanx for this suggestion. I'll try this right away!!

Jeroen

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:30 +0100, "Jeroen Moolhuijsen" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >I share my wireless network with two others and lately at some time all
of
> >us can no longer internet/email. After I switch the router off and turn
it
> >on again everything seems to work fine again. Until an undefined amount
of
> >time...
> >
> >Signal strength remains excellent always. I have a Daytrek Vigor 2600 We.
> >Anyone have a clue??
> >Thanx!!! Jeroen
>
> Yeah. Your router might be getting attacked from the internet by
> various tools or evil people. See:
> http://www.pcflank.com
> and try the "Exploits Test". My BEFW11S4v4 hangs on two of these (I
> forgot which ones). A power cycle is necessary to recover.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff,

thanx for your tip, but my system succesfullay passed the Exploits test.

Meanwhile I'm trying to upgrade the firmware. The releasenotes of the
firmware version tell me this might be the solution. However I have not been
able to upgrade it. Shouldn't the upgrade itself also work over a wireless
connection? The draytek support pages say no, but I can recall I did an
upgrade in such a manner about a year ago. ???

grtz, Jeroen


"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:25:30 +0100, "Jeroen Moolhuijsen" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >I share my wireless network with two others and lately at some time all
of
> >us can no longer internet/email. After I switch the router off and turn
it
> >on again everything seems to work fine again. Until an undefined amount
of
> >time...
> >
> >Signal strength remains excellent always. I have a Daytrek Vigor 2600 We.
> >Anyone have a clue??
> >Thanx!!! Jeroen
>
> Yeah. Your router might be getting attacked from the internet by
> various tools or evil people. See:
> http://www.pcflank.com
> and try the "Exploits Test". My BEFW11S4v4 hangs on two of these (I
> forgot which ones). A power cycle is necessary to recover.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:52:25 +0100, "Jeroen Moolhuijsen" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>thanx for your tip, but my system succesfullay passed the Exploits test.

Oh well. So much for that guess. I'm glad I'm not keeping score.

>Meanwhile I'm trying to upgrade the firmware. The releasenotes of the
>firmware version tell me this might be the solution. However I have not been
>able to upgrade it. Shouldn't the upgrade itself also work over a wireless
>connection? The draytek support pages say no, but I can recall I did an
>upgrade in such a manner about a year ago. ???

Don't do a firmware upgrade over the wireless link. In case you
didn't catch my drift, I'll repeat it. Don't do a firmware upgrade
over a wireless link. I don't wanna go into what can go wrong, why
the stupid routers like to reset the wireless device in the middle of
an upgrade, or why every single manufactory says that you shouldn't do
it over wireless. Just find the CAT5 cable you threw in the trash
when you got wireless, connect it between your computah and the
router, and do it the right way.


--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff,

thanx for the advice. I guess I need a temporary wired networkcard then, to
connect the CAT5 cable to my computah.

Jeroen


PS. I like the picture in your "do routers die"-post, by the way. ;-)


"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:52:25 +0100, "Jeroen Moolhuijsen" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >thanx for your tip, but my system succesfullay passed the Exploits test.
>
> Oh well. So much for that guess. I'm glad I'm not keeping score.
>
> >Meanwhile I'm trying to upgrade the firmware. The releasenotes of the
> >firmware version tell me this might be the solution. However I have not
been
> >able to upgrade it. Shouldn't the upgrade itself also work over a
wireless
> >connection? The draytek support pages say no, but I can recall I did an
> >upgrade in such a manner about a year ago. ???
>
> Don't do a firmware upgrade over the wireless link. In case you
> didn't catch my drift, I'll repeat it. Don't do a firmware upgrade
> over a wireless link. I don't wanna go into what can go wrong, why
> the stupid routers like to reset the wireless device in the middle of
> an upgrade, or why every single manufactory says that you shouldn't do
> it over wireless. Just find the CAT5 cable you threw in the trash
> when you got wireless, connect it between your computah and the
> router, and do it the right way.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:57:45 +0100, "Jeroen Moolhuijsen" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>thanx for the advice. I guess I need a temporary wired networkcard then, to
>connect the CAT5 cable to my computah.
>Jeroen

Yes. You should also use a wired connection to do the initial router
setup, and perhaps use it for testing if the wireless connection seems
flakey.

>PS. I like the picture in your "do routers die"-post, by the way. ;-)

http://www.LearnByDestroying.com/pic.../low-volt.html
Sorry about the mess. The picture is when I connected an adjustable
power supply to my BEFW11S4v4 router to see how low the power supply
voltage will go and have the router still operate. Even though the
router said "12V 1A" on the label, the router would work down to about
3.5VDC. That means that the use PoE contraption is un-necessary and
that it can be powered from just about anything from a gel cell to an
almost random voltage wall wart.

Drivel: Why wireless is so popular:
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com/pic...es/mess01.html


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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558