wireless ISP's

Anyone know how to build a wireless ISP?

dm2609 wrote:
> Anyone know how to build a wireless ISP?

Get Bandwidth (dark fibre hopefully). Learn how to operate Mail, News,
DHCP, and DNS servers on whatever platform you prefer. Purchase and install
those servers and perhaps back-up servers for when you crash them. Buy
radios, antennas, lightening protection, cables etc, and client hardware
(more radios and antennas etc). Install the ISP side radio hardware and
necessary accessories. Turn on the power. Advertize. When you find
clients willing to pay your price, do site surveys and tell the ones who
cannot receive your signal that they are out of luck. Install client side
radio equipment and necessary accessories for those who are not only willing
to pay your price but also able to receive your signal. Spend 20 hours out
of every day after that fielding phone calls from people who do not know how
to operate their computers and blame all of their problems on you.

Hopefully before you turn on the power, you have hired help. In fact,
hopefully (judging by your question) before you even think about becoming a
Wireless ISP any further, you have hired qualified help and put someone else
(other than yourself) in charge of all of it.

In article <JaTpb.11917$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
says...
> Anyone know how to build a wireless ISP?

Sure. Just get yerself one or more regular, wired ISP's and then cut off
the wires.

I already own and ISP, it has a T1, 69 PRI v.90 dial up lines, DNS/back up
DNS, Mail, Web, FTP, and DHCP servers. It also has RAS with a Radius, and
CISCO router. We are trying to expand our dial up to add wireless. We have a
company that is willing to allow us to lease space on the their tower. I
have never worked with wireless other than in house routers. As far as
towers, dishes, radio antennas, and types of miscellaneous equipment, that
is a little out of my the field. I was hoping for links, or something on
paper so can get a detailed list of all the parts needed so can get good
idea of what is it going to cost.

It was serous question, I am sorry you didn't take it that way.

I don't judge my books by their cover, I play dumb, you learn more.


"i'm_tired" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> dm2609 wrote:
> > Anyone know how to build a wireless ISP?
>
> Get Bandwidth (dark fibre hopefully). Learn how to operate Mail, News,
> DHCP, and DNS servers on whatever platform you prefer. Purchase and
install
> those servers and perhaps back-up servers for when you crash them. Buy
> radios, antennas, lightening protection, cables etc, and client hardware
> (more radios and antennas etc). Install the ISP side radio hardware and
> necessary accessories. Turn on the power. Advertize. When you find
> clients willing to pay your price, do site surveys and tell the ones who
> cannot receive your signal that they are out of luck. Install client side
> radio equipment and necessary accessories for those who are not only
willing
> to pay your price but also able to receive your signal. Spend 20 hours
out
> of every day after that fielding phone calls from people who do not know
how
> to operate their computers and blame all of their problems on you.
>
> Hopefully before you turn on the power, you have hired help. In fact,
> hopefully (judging by your question) before you even think about becoming
a
> Wireless ISP any further, you have hired qualified help and put someone
else
> (other than yourself) in charge of all of it.
>
>

dm2609 wrote:
> I already own and ISP, it has a T1, 69 PRI v.90 dial up lines,
> DNS/back up DNS, Mail, Web, FTP, and DHCP servers. It also has RAS
> with a Radius, and CISCO router. We are trying to expand our dial up
> to add wireless. We have a company that is willing to allow us to
> lease space on the their tower. I have never worked with wireless
> other than in house routers. As far as towers, dishes, radio
> antennas, and types of miscellaneous equipment, that is a little out
> of my the field. I was hoping for links, or something on paper so can
> get a detailed list of all the parts needed so can get good idea of
> what is it going to cost.
>
> It was serous question, I am sorry you didn't take it that way.
>
> I don't judge my books by their cover, I play dumb, you learn more.
>

Then do what I said. Get more bandwidth, install radios witrh their related
equipment in the right locations, advertize, do site surveys for responding
customers (and be prepared to turn some people down because they can't
receive your signal), install radios with their related equipment at
customer locations, handle the new injflux of tech support calls, and Bob's
your uncle.

Bandwidth is your first concern. Your little 1.5mbit pipe is certainly not
a useful amount of bandwidth for a wireless provider. If you won't provide
your customers with more than dialup speeds, they won't switch from dialup.
Even the slowest ADSL is 256kilobits. ISDN is 64 or 128 (actually a bit
more actual but that is off the topic). So, you could service half a dozen
customers at the slowest ADSL speeds and your T-1 is used up. Could you get
anyone to spend a few hundred on client-side equipment if they will be
limited to 30K? Not knowing your market, I can't say, but I would doubt
anyone would be knocking down your door.

So, without bandwidth, the cost of radio equipment, leasing antenna space in
a good location (unless you already own a high spot or two or three in your
area), and implementing actual customer connections is prohibative. Could
what you would charge half a dozen customers support your T-1, your staff,
your location expenses, etc? Could you even pay your janitor every month
from that?

Get fibre.

Go here for your antennas http://www.fab-corp.com/ Consider Proxim for your
radios, or Cisco. Hire a Ham Radio operator or someone else who
understands radio technology (maybe a tech from your local AM/FM radio
station or somebody who has been a TV engineer) to advise you on antenna
locations and radio power (if you are staying in unliscensed band, there are
still a lot of regulations).

i'm_tired wrote:

> dm2609 wrote:
>
>>I already own and ISP, it has a T1, 69 PRI v.90 dial up lines,
>>DNS/back up DNS, Mail, Web, FTP, and DHCP servers. It also has RAS
>>with a Radius, and CISCO router. We are trying to expand our dial up
>>to add wireless. We have a company that is willing to allow us to
>>lease space on the their tower. I have never worked with wireless
>>other than in house routers. As far as towers, dishes, radio
>>antennas, and types of miscellaneous equipment, that is a little out
>>of my the field. I was hoping for links, or something on paper so can
>>get a detailed list of all the parts needed so can get good idea of
>>what is it going to cost.
>>
>>It was serous question, I am sorry you didn't take it that way.
>>
>>I don't judge my books by their cover, I play dumb, you learn more.
>>
>
>
> Then do what I said. Get more bandwidth, install radios witrh their related
> equipment in the right locations, advertize, do site surveys for responding
> customers (and be prepared to turn some people down because they can't
> receive your signal), install radios with their related equipment at
> customer locations, handle the new injflux of tech support calls, and Bob's
> your uncle.
>
> Bandwidth is your first concern. Your little 1.5mbit pipe is certainly not
> a useful amount of bandwidth for a wireless provider. If you won't provide
> your customers with more than dialup speeds, they won't switch from dialup.
> Even the slowest ADSL is 256kilobits. ISDN is 64 or 128 (actually a bit
> more actual but that is off the topic). So, you could service half a dozen
> customers at the slowest ADSL speeds and your T-1 is used up. Could you get
> anyone to spend a few hundred on client-side equipment if they will be
> limited to 30K? Not knowing your market, I can't say, but I would doubt
> anyone would be knocking down your door.
>
> So, without bandwidth, the cost of radio equipment, leasing antenna space in
> a good location (unless you already own a high spot or two or three in your
> area), and implementing actual customer connections is prohibative. Could
> what you would charge half a dozen customers support your T-1, your staff,
> your location expenses, etc? Could you even pay your janitor every month
> from that?
>
> Get fibre.
>
> Go here for your antennas http://www.fab-corp.com/ Consider Proxim for your
> radios, or Cisco. Hire a Ham Radio operator or someone else who
> understands radio technology (maybe a tech from your local AM/FM radio
> station or somebody who has been a TV engineer) to advise you on antenna
> locations and radio power (if you are staying in unliscensed band, there are
> still a lot of regulations).
>
>
You really dont know what the fuck you're talking about, do you?