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HA
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      02-21-2005, 09:57 PM
I'm new to wireless and have a different need than typical home or
apartment dweller.

Everything I've seen for consumers is designed for a wired broadband
input that routes wireless to various pc's. I'm looking to do the
opposite.

I need to have a sort of wireless "base station" that would be my access
to a wireless network. Then to that base (a router I guess) I will run
wired/LAN connections to a 3 or 4 pc's. Or I could run wired to a couple
and have short range wireless to another 1 or 2.

Possible?

The exact setup will be on a boat that receives wireless broadband from
the marina. W/in the boat I can lay cables to a couple of cabins. It
would be nice to be wireless from the "base" to a laptop in the cockpit,
but I could run a cable there, too.

Into my "base station: I would also plug in my internet telephone.

 
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      02-22-2005, 12:13 AM
If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless
network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not have
to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a network.

A boat would be a great place for a wireless network, except, and Im not to
sure on the frequencies involved in marine equipment, but Radar and
Radioused on your boat might cause interferance, you would have to look into
that.

If you would like all your systems to be wireless just purchace PCI, USB or
PCMCIA Wireless client adapters for your systems and a wireless router. The
router you would want to place in a central location between your systems
for best signal performance.

No Special equipment needed, just your everyday on sale wireless networking
equipment will do.

Robert...

"HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message
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> I'm new to wireless and have a different need than typical home or
> apartment dweller.
>
> Everything I've seen for consumers is designed for a wired broadband
> input that routes wireless to various pc's. I'm looking to do the
> opposite.
>
> I need to have a sort of wireless "base station" that would be my access
> to a wireless network. Then to that base (a router I guess) I will run
> wired/LAN connections to a 3 or 4 pc's. Or I could run wired to a couple
> and have short range wireless to another 1 or 2.
>
> Possible?
>
> The exact setup will be on a boat that receives wireless broadband from
> the marina. W/in the boat I can lay cables to a couple of cabins. It
> would be nice to be wireless from the "base" to a laptop in the cockpit,
> but I could run a cable there, too.
>
> Into my "base station: I would also plug in my internet telephone.
>



 
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HA
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      02-22-2005, 02:18 AM
> If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless
> network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not
> have to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a
> network.> .


Actually, I do need the internet connection. That's the major point.

I want to have wireless broadband in to my boat. I am calling the
receiver/router a "base station". I will then either run cables to my
fixed pc's, and if possible have short range wireless from the "base
station" to a laptop. IOW, having a wireless receiver/sender into which
I can plug a router so that I may access the internet from all of the
pc's on my in-boat network is the essential desire.

 
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      02-22-2005, 02:33 AM
ok so you want to set it up just like any other wireless network sharing an
internet connect..... So can I ask you what your question is? Because im
lost......

Do you already have a basestation to recieve your Internet? Does it plug
into a computer via ethernet?
A wireless router will have ethernet ports and wireless built in to connect
your pcs and laptop.

Robert...

"HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message
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>> If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless
>> network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not
>> have to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a
>> network.> .

>
> Actually, I do need the internet connection. That's the major point.
>
> I want to have wireless broadband in to my boat. I am calling the
> receiver/router a "base station". I will then either run cables to my
> fixed pc's, and if possible have short range wireless from the "base
> station" to a laptop. IOW, having a wireless receiver/sender into which
> I can plug a router so that I may access the internet from all of the
> pc's on my in-boat network is the essential desire.
>



 
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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.
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      02-22-2005, 02:44 AM
sanders@kernalhen(HA).com wrote:

>I want to have wireless broadband in to my boat. I am calling the
>receiver/router a "base station". I will then either run cables to my
>fixed pc's, and if possible have short range wireless from the "base
>station" to a laptop. IOW, having a wireless receiver/sender into which
>I can plug a router so that I may access the internet from all of the
>pc's on my in-boat network is the essential desire.


Your problem is that you will probably need a directional antenna on the boat to
get any kind of range from your WISP. Since gyro stabilized WiFi antennas aren't
particularly common, you aren't going to be able to get the connection to the
boat. Distributing on the boat is no problem as an omni antenna will give you
the coverage.

Of course if money is no object, you can look into Inmarsat satellite service or
have someone build a custom gyro mount for you.
 
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      02-22-2005, 05:15 AM
Have mine set up that way (wireless network with non internet connection in
boat, RV, plane etc, just use it for the wireless network part), and never
had it interfere with navigation, just had a problem with a cordless phone
on the boat and the wireless network (changed channels and all was fine).
When any sort of connection (WiFi, cable, sat, cell etc) is available, it's
just a shared resource to other clients on the network.


DLink Guru wrote:
> If im reading you right you want to have you want to setup a wireless
> network on your boat. Thats exactly what wireless is for...You do not
> have to have a Internet connection to the wireless router to creat a
> network.
> A boat would be a great place for a wireless network, except, and Im
> not to sure on the frequencies involved in marine equipment, but
> Radar and Radioused on your boat might cause interferance, you would
> have to look into that.
>
> If you would like all your systems to be wireless just purchace PCI,
> USB or PCMCIA Wireless client adapters for your systems and a
> wireless router. The router you would want to place in a central
> location between your systems for best signal performance.
>
> No Special equipment needed, just your everyday on sale wireless
> networking equipment will do.
>
> Robert...
>
> "HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message
> news:00050121175447.OUI16.sanders@kernalhen(HA).co m...
>> I'm new to wireless and have a different need than typical home or
>> apartment dweller.
>>
>> Everything I've seen for consumers is designed for a wired broadband
>> input that routes wireless to various pc's. I'm looking to do the
>> opposite.
>>
>> I need to have a sort of wireless "base station" that would be my
>> access to a wireless network. Then to that base (a router I guess) I
>> will run wired/LAN connections to a 3 or 4 pc's. Or I could run
>> wired to a couple and have short range wireless to another 1 or 2.
>>
>> Possible?
>>
>> The exact setup will be on a boat that receives wireless broadband
>> from the marina. W/in the boat I can lay cables to a couple of
>> cabins. It would be nice to be wireless from the "base" to a laptop
>> in the cockpit, but I could run a cable there, too.
>>
>> Into my "base station: I would also plug in my internet telephone.



 
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      02-22-2005, 07:36 AM
> Your problem is that you will probably need a directional antenna on
> the boat to get any kind of range from your WISP.


Actually, there are companies that specialize in providing wireless
broadband to and through marina's. So the transmitter would not be far
away. In Baltimore's harbor there are at least 3 marina's with
wireless available, and I expect the rest will be soon. It's happening
all along the coast.

Verizon is also rolling out their wireless broadband using the same cell
towers they use for cellular telephone. Not as fast as a cable modem at
home, but far faster than any dialup.

 
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      02-22-2005, 07:36 AM
> So can I ask you what your question is? Because im lost......

Sorry to be confusing. But I'm very new to wireless hardware. So if I am
asking a "is 2 + 5 = 5" kind of question please excuse me.

> A wireless router will have ethernet ports and wireless built in to
> connect your pcs and laptop.


What I have seen to date, is a wireless router hardwired to the internet
(DSL or cable), allowing wireless access from the cable modem to the
owners's computers. So, like having cable internet, cabled from wall to
modem, then to wireless router, but then wireless to various pc's. Seen
that many times. Bog standard my english friends would say.

What I am not clear about is whether this can be easily done in the
reverse direction:

Wireless ISP into my wireless router, then ethernet cable out to my pc's
and Vonage phone.

Any other questions I might have would be dependant upon that answer.

 
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      02-22-2005, 07:36 AM
> Have mine set up that way (wireless network with non internet
> connection in boat, RV, plane etc, just use it for the wireless
> network part),>


Can I ask which hardware you use? And if you wanted to link your in-boat
network to a wireless ISP, such as offered at many marina's along the
ICW, how would you do that? Would the wireless router you use also make
the broadband internet connect (if compatible standard of course)?

 
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DLink Guru
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      02-22-2005, 11:47 AM
Thats not reverse, thats the way wireless networking works.....your wireless
ISP basestation would plug into the wireless router just like DSL
would.......

"HA .com" <sanders@kernalhen> wrote in message
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>> So can I ask you what your question is? Because im lost......

>
> Sorry to be confusing. But I'm very new to wireless hardware. So if I am
> asking a "is 2 + 5 = 5" kind of question please excuse me.
>
>> A wireless router will have ethernet ports and wireless built in to
>> connect your pcs and laptop.

>
> What I have seen to date, is a wireless router hardwired to the internet
> (DSL or cable), allowing wireless access from the cable modem to the
> owners's computers. So, like having cable internet, cabled from wall to
> modem, then to wireless router, but then wireless to various pc's. Seen
> that many times. Bog standard my english friends would say.
>
> What I am not clear about is whether this can be easily done in the
> reverse direction:
>
> Wireless ISP into my wireless router, then ethernet cable out to my pc's
> and Vonage phone.
>
> Any other questions I might have would be dependant upon that answer.
>



 
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