wireless isn't working!!

Hi. I recently bought 2 identical laptops for me and my brother. My
brother lives in NY and I live in Philly. They are Toshiba Satellite
m45's. So we bought them before Christmas and its a few days past the
return policy for Circuit City so I've come here in hope some one had
the same problem or someone knows what else to do.

The problem lies in the wireless connectivity of the laptop. The laptop
will initially connect wireless to my network in Philly but every 10-15
minutes a display comes up saying "limited or no connectivity." Now I
originally thought it was just my laptop and I bought a defected unit
or something. But I talked to my brother yesterday and he said the same
thing has been happening to him. Now at my Philly house, my roommates
use their laptops on the network and they never had this happen to
them. Both in NY and Philly, we have Linksys 54g routers. I've already
went through troubleshooting with both Linksys and Toshiba. I am
supposed to call Toshiba corporate today to complain and hopefully get
a new one or something. But what still bothers me is that my brother
and I both have the same laptops and the same problems. So with that
said, can anyone help me out?

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In <(E-Mail Removed) .com> on 31 Jan 2006
08:20:04 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Hi. I recently bought 2 identical laptops for me and my brother. My
>brother lives in NY and I live in Philly. They are Toshiba Satellite
>m45's. So we bought them before Christmas and its a few days past the
>return policy for Circuit City so I've come here in hope some one had
>the same problem or someone knows what else to do.
>
>The problem lies in the wireless connectivity of the laptop. The laptop
>will initially connect wireless to my network in Philly but every 10-15
>minutes a display comes up saying "limited or no connectivity." Now I
>originally thought it was just my laptop and I bought a defected unit
>or something. But I talked to my brother yesterday and he said the same
>thing has been happening to him. Now at my Philly house, my roommates
>use their laptops on the network and they never had this happen to
>them. Both in NY and Philly, we have Linksys 54g routers. I've already
>went through troubleshooting with both Linksys and Toshiba. I am
>supposed to call Toshiba corporate today to complain and hopefully get
>a new one or something. But what still bothers me is that my brother
>and I both have the same laptops and the same problems. So with that
>said, can anyone help me out?

Sounds like radio frequency interference. See the FAQ below.

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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FAQ_for_alt.internet.wireless>

Hi

I had similar issue with Toshiba Laptop that I bought for a family member
few weeks ago.

In my case, it had to do with the multiple "Junk" that the Toshiba engineers
decided to load at Windows Startup. Many applications that are loaded at
Startup (in big part is just a marketing ploy) including few that are
related to the Wireless Management. It might be that they end up
"confusing" the Wireless connection.

I cleaned the Startup from all the entries that are not needed for the basic
operation of Windows and configured manually the Wireless. After manuall
configuration, I switched off the wireless utilities and I use Windows Zero
Configuration.

It is working well since then.

If you are Not comfortable with removing entries, this might help in dealing
with StartUp.

Jack (MVP-Networking).

P.S. I am sorry that my answer is a general one. I cannot give you a
detailed list of the "Alleged Junk" application since I do not have this
Laptop with me any more.





<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi. I recently bought 2 identical laptops for me and my brother. My
> brother lives in NY and I live in Philly. They are Toshiba Satellite
> m45's. So we bought them before Christmas and its a few days past the
> return policy for Circuit City so I've come here in hope some one had
> the same problem or someone knows what else to do.
>
> The problem lies in the wireless connectivity of the laptop. The laptop
> will initially connect wireless to my network in Philly but every 10-15
> minutes a display comes up saying "limited or no connectivity." Now I
> originally thought it was just my laptop and I bought a defected unit
> or something. But I talked to my brother yesterday and he said the same
> thing has been happening to him. Now at my Philly house, my roommates
> use their laptops on the network and they never had this happen to
> them. Both in NY and Philly, we have Linksys 54g routers. I've already
> went through troubleshooting with both Linksys and Toshiba. I am
> supposed to call Toshiba corporate today to complain and hopefully get
> a new one or something. But what still bothers me is that my brother
> and I both have the same laptops and the same problems. So with that
> said, can anyone help me out?
>

(E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:

>Hi. I recently bought 2 identical laptops for me and my brother. My
>brother lives in NY and I live in Philly. They are Toshiba Satellite
>m45's. So we bought them before Christmas and its a few days past the
>return policy for Circuit City so I've come here in hope some one had
>the same problem or someone knows what else to do.

The M45 series is a decent laptop and works well for a few of my
customers that have bought them. However, Toshiba installs some kind
of network configuration manager that I suspect is causing problems. I
forgot the name. I had to disable it and Wireless Zero Config before
I could get a reliable connection on one computer. However, the other
Toshiba's worked just fine with whatever they supplied. Weird.

>The problem lies in the wireless connectivity of the laptop. The laptop
>will initially connect wireless to my network in Philly but every 10-15
>minutes a display comes up saying "limited or no connectivity." Now I
>originally thought it was just my laptop and I bought a defected unit
>or something. But I talked to my brother yesterday and he said the same
>thing has been happening to him. Now at my Philly house, my roommates
>use their laptops on the network and they never had this happen to
>them. Both in NY and Philly, we have Linksys 54g routers.

Do you have identical hardware versions of the Links WRT54G? If
they're both V5, try upgrading the firmware to the latest (1.00.6)
which fixed a similar problem. If they're not V5, try the latest for
that hardware version.

Partial list of v5 fixes:
Firmware 1.00.6
- Resolves issues with WAP54G repeater mode
- Resolves issues with certain PPPoE connection
- Resolves issues with SES turning back on when applying settings
- Resolves issues with WPA allowing Shared key selection
- Resolves issues with web GUI ping function
- Resolves issues with using MSN whiteboard
- Resolves issues with instability when using Bittorent
- Resolves issues with using certain ATA phone adapters
- Resolves issues with connecting to NNTP news servers

>I've already
>went through troubleshooting with both Linksys and Toshiba.

What did they suggest and what happened? In other words, what changes
and updates have you made?

>I am
>supposed to call Toshiba corporate today to complain and hopefully get
>a new one or something. But what still bothers me is that my brother
>and I both have the same laptops and the same problems. So with that
>said, can anyone help me out?

Try the laptop at a hot spot or coffee shop wireless. If that works
without a disconnect, then it's your WRT54G. Upgrade firmware if
necessary.

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

I hate Toshiba for putting all that crap on their computers. The first
thing I thought of was what you just said, but I never deleted
anything. I talked to toshiba yesterday and i did a system restore, but
that didn't work. If anyone has more info on what programs to
uninstall, i'd appreciate it.

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) hath wroth:
>
>
> The M45 series is a decent laptop and works well for a few of my
> customers that have bought them. However, Toshiba installs some kind
> of network configuration manager that I suspect is causing problems. I
> forgot the name. I had to disable it and Wireless Zero Config before
> I could get a reliable connection on one computer. However, the other
> Toshiba's worked just fine with whatever they supplied. Weird.


If anyone knows which program on Toshiba this is, I'd appreciate it


>
> >I've already
> >went through troubleshooting with both Linksys and Toshiba.
>
> What did they suggest and what happened? In other words, what changes
> and updates have you made?

I did a system restore, it didn't work



>
> Try the laptop at a hot spot or coffee shop wireless. If that works
> without a disconnect, then it's your WRT54G. Upgrade firmware if
> necessary.

The tech i talked to also told me to do that. I have to find the time
though. hopefully the problem lies with a program from toshiba, so I
can just uninstall it and be on my way.

Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:
> Hi
>
> I had similar issue with Toshiba Laptop that I bought for a family member
> few weeks ago.
>
> In my case, it had to do with the multiple "Junk" that the Toshiba engineers
> decided to load at Windows Startup. Many applications that are loaded at
> Startup (in big part is just a marketing ploy) including few that are
> related to the Wireless Management. It might be that they end up
> "confusing" the Wireless connection.

I can assure you the decision to include that stuff wasn't a technical one.


>
> I cleaned the Startup from all the entries that are not needed for the basic
> operation of Windows and configured manually the Wireless. After manuall
> configuration, I switched off the wireless utilities and I use Windows Zero
> Configuration.
>
> It is working well since then.
>
> If you are Not comfortable with removing entries, this might help in dealing
> with StartUp.
>
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> P.S. I am sorry that my answer is a general one. I cannot give you a
> detailed list of the "Alleged Junk" application since I do not have this
> Laptop with me any more.
>
>
>
>
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) oups.com...
>
>>Hi. I recently bought 2 identical laptops for me and my brother. My
>>brother lives in NY and I live in Philly. They are Toshiba Satellite
>>m45's. So we bought them before Christmas and its a few days past the
>>return policy for Circuit City so I've come here in hope some one had
>>the same problem or someone knows what else to do.
>>
>>The problem lies in the wireless connectivity of the laptop. The laptop
>>will initially connect wireless to my network in Philly but every 10-15
>>minutes a display comes up saying "limited or no connectivity." Now I
>>originally thought it was just my laptop and I bought a defected unit
>>or something. But I talked to my brother yesterday and he said the same
>>thing has been happening to him. Now at my Philly house, my roommates
>>use their laptops on the network and they never had this happen to
>>them. Both in NY and Philly, we have Linksys 54g routers. I've already
>>went through troubleshooting with both Linksys and Toshiba. I am
>>supposed to call Toshiba corporate today to complain and hopefully get
>>a new one or something. But what still bothers me is that my brother
>>and I both have the same laptops and the same problems. So with that
>>said, can anyone help me out?
>>
>
>
>

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>> The M45 series is a decent laptop and works well for a few of my
>> customers that have bought them. However, Toshiba installs some kind
>> of network configuration manager that I suspect is causing problems. I
>> forgot the name. I had to disable it and Wireless Zero Config before
>> I could get a reliable connection on one computer. However, the other
>> Toshiba's worked just fine with whatever they supplied. Weird.
>
>
>If anyone knows which program on Toshiba this is, I'd appreciate it
>

I have a Toshiba M45-S331 and an M45-S269. I can report that the
"Config-free" applet, the most likely candidate, hasn't caused any
problems, except annoying notifications.

The first time I booted these up I deleted a bunch of stuff, mostly
trialware and adware, but nothing that I thought likely to actually
interfere with the operation of the machines.

I'm sure there are many versions of the M45, though.

--
Dave

Well what if it's my router? Tonight I will mess around with the
router. I think It has to do something with my IP address. While I was
talking to Toshiba last night, the IP address kept changing to
192.168.2.X. I forgot the last number, but my Default Gateway is
192.168.1.1. So I think I have to somehow keep it at .2. I manually put
it in thinking it would fix my problems but now it still loses
connectivity. I am sure its the router at this point because the
computer works fine when it doesn't lose connection. Hope this info
helps. I'll update either late tonight or early tomorrow after I talk
to Linksys. Thanks again!

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:52:55 -0600, Dave Rudisill <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I have a Toshiba M45-S331 and an M45-S269. I can report that the
>"Config-free" applet, the most likely candidate, hasn't caused any
>problems, except annoying notifications.

Yeah, that's the program. In all but one laptop, it didn't cause any
issues. However, in the one that did, I could not get a VPN client
(SafeNet) to work with it. Every time I disconnected from the VPN,
the Config-Free software would notice that I had disconnected,
imporoperly deduce that the wireless had been turned off, and switch
the traffic to the ethernet port. Once this happened, it would not
return to the wireless mode without lots of thrashing around with
Wireless Zero Config. I finally got fed up with all the layers of
junk piled on top of a simple wireless driver and removed both
Config-Free and WZC. It worked.
>
>The first time I booted these up I deleted a bunch of stuff, mostly
>trialware and adware, but nothing that I thought likely to actually
>interfere with the operation of the machines.

I use Startup Insepctor for Windoze for that. Much better than
MSCONFIG:
http://www.windowsstartup.com
It's free.

>I'm sure there are many versions of the M45, though.

Scraped from the ToshibaDirect web pile:
M45-S165
M45-S1651
M45-S169
M45-S1691
M45-S265
M45-S2651
M45-S2652
M45-S2653
M45-S269
M45-S2691
M45-S2692
M45-S2693
M45-S331
M45-S3311
M45-S351
M45-S3511
M45-S355
M45-S3551
M45-S3552
M45-S3553
M45-S359
M45-S3591

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