Wireless internet but no LAN

I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no luck.
All D-Link equipment.

I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX (wired).
With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my desktop
(lan). No troubles.

I decided to go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
adapter. The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference between
wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).

However, the lan refuses to work. I've tried everything I can think of,
every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even updated the
router's firmware. No change.

If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
perhaps that's too simple an approach.

This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
violence LAN problems can incite! Any ideas?

Robert Barr <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:qB3Sd.2044$DW.980
@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com:

> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no luck.
> All D-Link equipment.
>
> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX (wired).
> With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my desktop
> (lan). No troubles.
>
> I decided to go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
> adapter. The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference between
> wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>
> However, the lan refuses to work. I've tried everything I can think of,
> every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even updated the
> router's firmware. No change.
>
> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>
> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
> violence LAN problems can incite! Any ideas?
>

What O/S(s) are the machines using, what are the services and protocols
being used on the NIC(s) and is WEP or WAP enable on the wireless?

Duane

"Robert Barr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:qB3Sd.2044$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
luck.
> All D-Link equipment.
>
> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
(wired).
> With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my desktop
> (lan). No troubles.
>
> I decided to go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
> adapter. The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
between
> wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>
> However, the lan refuses to work. I've tried everything I can think
of,
> every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even updated
the
> router's firmware. No change.
>
> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>
> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
> violence LAN problems can incite! Any ideas?

On your wireless adapters properties you should have
1. Client for Microsoft Networks
2. File and Printer sharing
3. TCP/IP
Are these all installed and enabled?

What OS and SP. Do you have a firewall running?

Under show all adapters (if using xp) you might try
running the Set up a home or small office network wizard.
It will ususally set up everything correctly.

Start by trying to ping each computer.

If this fails then look into Firewall settings. Make sure within its setting
you allow your machines to see each other. ie for Norton Firewall you can
set your Networking Trusted IP addresses. This must be done on both
computers.

also within TCP/IP Advanced settings make sure your Win setting is set for
NetBIOS over TCP/IP

dj

> On your wireless adapters properties you should have
> 1. Client for Microsoft Networks
> 2. File and Printer sharing
> 3. TCP/IP
> Are these all installed and enabled?
>
> What OS and SP. Do you have a firewall running?
>
> Under show all adapters (if using xp) you might try
> running the Set up a home or small office network wizard.
> It will ususally set up everything correctly.
>
>

OS on both is Windows 2000. Yes, I have the 3 properties (also
NetBEUI). Laptop has internet access with no problems. Just no LAN.

Internet access works with or without security, so I've left security
off until I can actually get a lan connection.

Sometimes, when searching for other computers, one will find the other,
but it won't be able to access.

Very frustrating. If I swap in the wired adapter on the laptop,
everything's fine.

If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use your LAN,
then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.

Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you through the
steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint of most of the poster
in this newsgroup. Look around in other posts and you should find the
answers, or someone else will show up to help.

It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get descuraged, you
will get it.....

Robert.....


"Robert Barr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:qB3Sd.2044$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no luck. All
> D-Link equipment.
>
> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX (wired).
> With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my desktop (lan).
> No troubles.
>
> I decided to go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
> adapter. The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent signal
> strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect reliability.
> (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference between wireless &
> wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>
> However, the lan refuses to work. I've tried everything I can think of,
> every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even updated the
> router's firmware. No change.
>
> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works fine.
> That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but perhaps that's
> too simple an approach.
>
> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous violence
> LAN problems can incite! Any ideas?

"Robert Barr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:rc6Sd.2105$(E-Mail Removed). ..
>
> > On your wireless adapters properties you should have
> > 1. Client for Microsoft Networks
> > 2. File and Printer sharing
> > 3. TCP/IP
> > Are these all installed and enabled?
> >
> > What OS and SP. Do you have a firewall running?
> >
> > Under show all adapters (if using xp) you might try
> > running the Set up a home or small office network wizard.
> > It will ususally set up everything correctly.
> >
> >
>
> OS on both is Windows 2000. Yes, I have the 3 properties (also
> NetBEUI). Laptop has internet access with no problems. Just no
LAN.
>
> Internet access works with or without security, so I've left
security
> off until I can actually get a lan connection.
>
> Sometimes, when searching for other computers, one will find the
other,
> but it won't be able to access.
>
> Very frustrating. If I swap in the wired adapter on the laptop,
> everything's fine.

Try getting rid of the NetBeui and just use tcp/ip for lan

Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the wireless
adapter or router that is the problem.
The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the software
for the WiFi card.
That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or flakey
connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd by download the
software from the manufacturers sites.
Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a few
minutes..

PP

DLink Guru wrote:
> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use your
> LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>
> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you through
> the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint of most of
> the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other posts and you
> should find the answers, or someone else will show up to help.
>
> It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get descuraged,
> you will get it.....
>
> Robert.....
>
>
> "Robert Barr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:qB3Sd.2044$(E-Mail Removed). ..
>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>
>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
>> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
>> (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my
>> desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>
>> I decided to go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>> adapter. The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>
>> However, the lan refuses to work. I've tried everything I can think
>> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even
>> updated the router's firmware. No change.
>>
>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
>> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
>> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>
>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>> violence LAN problems can incite! Any ideas?

Yes, but the internet would not work if it was a hardware problem. He says
the internet connection is fine. So its software.


"Peter Pan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the wireless
> adapter or router that is the problem.
> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the
> software for the WiFi card.
> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or flakey
> connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd by download
> the software from the manufacturers sites.
> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a few
> minutes..
>
> PP
>
> DLink Guru wrote:
>> If the Internet works then your hardware works. If you cant use your
>> LAN, then you have a setting(s) wrong in your software.
>>
>> Im not familiar with windows 2000 so I wont try to walk you through
>> the steps. This is the harfest part and biggest complaint of most of
>> the poster in this newsgroup. Look around in other posts and you
>> should find the answers, or someone else will show up to help.
>>
>> It is 100% your software (OS or Firewall) setup, dont get descuraged,
>> you will get it.....
>>
>> Robert.....
>>
>>
>> "Robert Barr" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:qB3Sd.2044$(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>> I've done gobs of searches & research & experimentation, with no
>>> luck. All D-Link equipment.
>>>
>>> I had a basic 2-computer lan that worked fine with a DI-604 router,
>>> desktop with the basic DFE-530TX+ and a laptop with a DFE-690TX
>>> (wired). With the laptop, I had internet and communication with my
>>> desktop (lan). No troubles.
>>>
>>> I decided to go wireless. DI-524 router, DWL-G630 for the laptop's
>>> adapter. The laptop links to the router perfectly, good consistent
>>> signal strength, and I get internet access with apparently perfect
>>> reliability. (It's good enough that I can't tell the difference
>>> between wireless & wired, as far as performance is concerned).
>>>
>>> However, the lan refuses to work. I've tried everything I can think
>>> of, every setting, and every 'tip' I've found on usenet. Even
>>> updated the router's firmware. No change.
>>>
>>> If I replace the wireless adapter with the wired one, the lan works
>>> fine. That would seem to identify the adapter as the problem, but
>>> perhaps that's too simple an approach.
>>>
>>> This is driving me to despair, and I wonder how much spontaneous
>>> violence LAN problems can incite! Any ideas?
>
>

Peter Pan wrote:
> Actually in about 98% of those cases it is the SOFTWARE for the wireless
> adapter or router that is the problem.
> The two most often seen problems are the routers firmware, and the software
> for the WiFi card.
> That is usually the exact complaint (wired works fine, but no or flakey
> connect when wireless) I see most often, that is mainly fixd by download the
> software from the manufacturers sites.
> Try updating them both.. heck it's free and should only take you a few
> minutes..
>
> PP
>

I did that right off the bat. There was a minor update for the router,
and no update is out there for the adapter. I'm not sure what else I
can check.

I appreciate the suggestions from everyone, and I haven't given up, but
this is just an exercise in frustration. Odd that internet works OK
but no LAN. Oh well...