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marky
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      01-10-2004, 06:17 PM


Hi
Im trying to install a wireless system BT Voyager but get this message when
installing and adapter on the seconed computer
" DHCP Client Your computer was unable to reach a special
network server ( DHCP ) to renew its address "
Can anyone explain what this means and if I can do anything to rectify it?
Thanks in advance.
Mark



 
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Duane Arnold
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      01-10-2004, 09:01 PM
"marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
>
> Hi
> Im trying to install a wireless system BT Voyager but get this message
> when installing and adapter on the seconed computer
> " DHCP Client Your computer was unable to reach a special
> network server ( DHCP ) to renew its address "
> Can anyone explain what this means and if I can do anything to rectify
> it? Thanks in advance.
> Mark
>
>
>
>


Well,

What it means is that O/S using the NIC on the machine wired or wireless
cannot obtain an IP from a DHCP server. The DHCP server could be a
gateway machine, if using ICS, a router can be the DHCP server, or a
machine directly connect to the Internet cannot obtain an IP from a DHCP
server at the ISP.

The machine with its O/S using a NIC must obtain a valid IP in order to
use TCP/IP to access the WAN or it may use an Auto Config default
169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP that allows to access the LAN but not the WAN. In any
event, the machine and its O/S is having problems obtaining an IP using
the NIC.

This could be due to a mis-configuration of the NIC or the device with
the DHCP server is defective or mis-configuration as well. You'll have to
track it down as to just what is the problem.

Duane



 
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marky
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      01-11-2004, 01:32 PM

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns946CA2F5BE849darnold92insightbbco@204.127. 199.17...
> "marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:40004fd8$0$61069$(E-Mail Removed) :
>
> >
> >
> > Hi
> > Im trying to install a wireless system BT Voyager but get this message
> > when installing and adapter on the seconed computer
> > " DHCP Client Your computer was unable to reach a special
> > network server ( DHCP ) to renew its address "
> > Can anyone explain what this means and if I can do anything to rectify
> > it? Thanks in advance.
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> Well,
>
> What it means is that O/S using the NIC on the machine wired or wireless
> cannot obtain an IP from a DHCP server. The DHCP server could be a
> gateway machine, if using ICS, a router can be the DHCP server, or a
> machine directly connect to the Internet cannot obtain an IP from a DHCP
> server at the ISP.
>
> The machine with its O/S using a NIC must obtain a valid IP in order to
> use TCP/IP to access the WAN or it may use an Auto Config default
> 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP that allows to access the LAN but not the WAN. In any
> event, the machine and its O/S is having problems obtaining an IP using
> the NIC.
>
> This could be due to a mis-configuration of the NIC or the device with
> the DHCP server is defective or mis-configuration as well. You'll have to
> track it down as to just what is the problem.
>
> Duane
>
>


Thanks for your reply
I now have a network but cannot use the internet. Its connected to the
network with 97% signal strength.
I've checked and both computers are using the same IP 169.xxx.xxx.xxx. apart
from the last number (which is OK or so I am told ). I have set up 1
computer (XP) with this wireless system, no problem, and am trying to add a
second computer (98) with an adapter. All the equipment is made by BT. Any
ideas on what to do next??

Thanks again
Mark



 
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Duane Arnold
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      01-11-2004, 04:59 PM
"marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
> "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns946CA2F5BE849darnold92insightbbco@204.127. 199.17...
>> "marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:40004fd8$0$61069$(E-Mail Removed) :
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi
>> > Im trying to install a wireless system BT Voyager but get this
>> > message when installing and adapter on the seconed computer
>> > " DHCP Client Your computer was unable to reach a special
>> > network server ( DHCP ) to renew its address "
>> > Can anyone explain what this means and if I can do anything to
>> > rectify it? Thanks in advance.
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> Well,
>>
>> What it means is that O/S using the NIC on the machine wired or
>> wireless cannot obtain an IP from a DHCP server. The DHCP server
>> could be a gateway machine, if using ICS, a router can be the DHCP
>> server, or a machine directly connect to the Internet cannot obtain
>> an IP from a DHCP server at the ISP.
>>
>> The machine with its O/S using a NIC must obtain a valid IP in order
>> to use TCP/IP to access the WAN or it may use an Auto Config default
>> 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP that allows to access the LAN but not the WAN. In
>> any event, the machine and its O/S is having problems obtaining an IP
>> using the NIC.
>>
>> This could be due to a mis-configuration of the NIC or the device
>> with the DHCP server is defective or mis-configuration as well.
>> You'll have to track it down as to just what is the problem.
>>
>> Duane
>>
>>

>
> Thanks for your reply
> I now have a network but cannot use the internet. Its connected to the
> network with 97% signal strength.
> I've checked and both computers are using the same IP 169.xxx.xxx.xxx.
> apart from the last number (which is OK or so I am told ). I have set
> up 1 computer (XP) with this wireless system, no problem, and am
> trying to add a second computer (98) with an adapter. All the
> equipment is made by BT. Any ideas on what to do next??
>
> Thanks again
> Mark
>
>
>
>


I'll be surprised if that 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP is going to allow you to
access the WAN side of the router/Internet or make an Internet connection
to a Website from either machine. Like I said before, if you get that
169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP being assigned, it is an indication the machines
couldn't get a vaild IP from a DHCP server. The machines can talk to each
other on the LAN side of the router and that's it. There is soemting
wrong.

XP and wireless is a bitch to setup and I'll tell you right now that you
are not going to connect to the Internet because of that 169.xxx IP. You
can try doing an IPconfig /release and IPconfig /renew at the Command
Prompt which is suppose to release and renew the TCP/IP stack and the
connection and renew it. But most likely, it will not do it because of
some mis-configuration of the NIC's, which can happen if you're using
that Network Wizard and the Wireless Zero Service of the XP O/S.

Duane





 
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      01-11-2004, 06:02 PM

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
> >
> > "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:Xns946CA2F5BE849darnold92insightbbco@204.127. 199.17...
> >> "marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> news:40004fd8$0$61069$(E-Mail Removed) :
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi
> >> > Im trying to install a wireless system BT Voyager but get this
> >> > message when installing and adapter on the seconed computer
> >> > " DHCP Client Your computer was unable to reach a special
> >> > network server ( DHCP ) to renew its address "
> >> > Can anyone explain what this means and if I can do anything to
> >> > rectify it? Thanks in advance.
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well,
> >>
> >> What it means is that O/S using the NIC on the machine wired or
> >> wireless cannot obtain an IP from a DHCP server. The DHCP server
> >> could be a gateway machine, if using ICS, a router can be the DHCP
> >> server, or a machine directly connect to the Internet cannot obtain
> >> an IP from a DHCP server at the ISP.
> >>
> >> The machine with its O/S using a NIC must obtain a valid IP in order
> >> to use TCP/IP to access the WAN or it may use an Auto Config default
> >> 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP that allows to access the LAN but not the WAN. In
> >> any event, the machine and its O/S is having problems obtaining an IP
> >> using the NIC.
> >>
> >> This could be due to a mis-configuration of the NIC or the device
> >> with the DHCP server is defective or mis-configuration as well.
> >> You'll have to track it down as to just what is the problem.
> >>
> >> Duane
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Thanks for your reply
> > I now have a network but cannot use the internet. Its connected to the
> > network with 97% signal strength.
> > I've checked and both computers are using the same IP 169.xxx.xxx.xxx.
> > apart from the last number (which is OK or so I am told ). I have set
> > up 1 computer (XP) with this wireless system, no problem, and am
> > trying to add a second computer (98) with an adapter. All the
> > equipment is made by BT. Any ideas on what to do next??
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> I'll be surprised if that 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP is going to allow you to
> access the WAN side of the router/Internet or make an Internet connection
> to a Website from either machine. Like I said before, if you get that
> 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP being assigned, it is an indication the machines
> couldn't get a vaild IP from a DHCP server. The machines can talk to each
> other on the LAN side of the router and that's it. There is soemting
> wrong.
>
> XP and wireless is a bitch to setup and I'll tell you right now that you
> are not going to connect to the Internet because of that 169.xxx IP. You
> can try doing an IPconfig /release and IPconfig /renew at the Command
> Prompt which is suppose to release and renew the TCP/IP stack and the
> connection and renew it. But most likely, it will not do it because of
> some mis-configuration of the NIC's, which can happen if you're using
> that Network Wizard and the Wireless Zero Service of the XP O/S.
>
> Duane
>
>
>

I'll have to have a rethink
Thanks anyway
Mark


 
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      01-12-2004, 12:08 AM
Have you set up the gateway IP ?
Go to the network icon in the control panel, open, select TCP/IP line for
your wifi adapter, click properties, click gateway and set to the router IP
address,
usually 192.168.1.1 , leave IP address to auto.
If that still doesn't try setting IP manually to 192.168.1.11 (between 11
and 50 different for each computer)
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      01-12-2004, 03:45 AM
"marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns946D79ECD5198darnold92insightbbco@204.127. 199.17...
>> "marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>>
>> >
>> > "Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns946CA2F5BE849darnold92insightbbco@204.127. 199.17...
>> >> "marky" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> >> news:40004fd8$0$61069$(E-Mail Removed) :
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi
>> >> > Im trying to install a wireless system BT Voyager but get this
>> >> > message when installing and adapter on the seconed computer
>> >> > " DHCP Client Your computer was unable to reach a special
>> >> > network server ( DHCP ) to renew its address "
>> >> > Can anyone explain what this means and if I can do anything to
>> >> > rectify it? Thanks in advance.
>> >> > Mark
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Well,
>> >>
>> >> What it means is that O/S using the NIC on the machine wired or
>> >> wireless cannot obtain an IP from a DHCP server. The DHCP server
>> >> could be a gateway machine, if using ICS, a router can be the DHCP
>> >> server, or a machine directly connect to the Internet cannot
>> >> obtain an IP from a DHCP server at the ISP.
>> >>
>> >> The machine with its O/S using a NIC must obtain a valid IP in
>> >> order to use TCP/IP to access the WAN or it may use an Auto Config
>> >> default 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP that allows to access the LAN but not
>> >> the WAN. In any event, the machine and its O/S is having problems
>> >> obtaining an IP using the NIC.
>> >>
>> >> This could be due to a mis-configuration of the NIC or the device
>> >> with the DHCP server is defective or mis-configuration as well.
>> >> You'll have to track it down as to just what is the problem.
>> >>
>> >> Duane
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Thanks for your reply
>> > I now have a network but cannot use the internet. Its connected to
>> > the network with 97% signal strength.
>> > I've checked and both computers are using the same IP
>> > 169.xxx.xxx.xxx. apart from the last number (which is OK or so I am
>> > told ). I have set up 1 computer (XP) with this wireless system, no
>> > problem, and am trying to add a second computer (98) with an
>> > adapter. All the equipment is made by BT. Any ideas on what to do
>> > next??
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I'll be surprised if that 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP is going to allow you to
>> access the WAN side of the router/Internet or make an Internet
>> connection to a Website from either machine. Like I said before, if
>> you get that 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP being assigned, it is an indication
>> the machines couldn't get a vaild IP from a DHCP server. The machines
>> can talk to each other on the LAN side of the router and that's it.
>> There is soemting wrong.
>>
>> XP and wireless is a bitch to setup and I'll tell you right now that
>> you are not going to connect to the Internet because of that 169.xxx
>> IP. You can try doing an IPconfig /release and IPconfig /renew at the
>> Command Prompt which is suppose to release and renew the TCP/IP stack
>> and the connection and renew it. But most likely, it will not do it
>> because of some mis-configuration of the NIC's, which can happen if
>> you're using that Network Wizard and the Wireless Zero Service of the
>> XP O/S.
>>
>> Duane
>>
>>
>>

> I'll have to have a rethink
> Thanks anyway
> Mark
>
>



To release the TCP/IP Stack on XP if you cannot release the !69.xxx IP by
doing IPconfig release renew. Also look at the links on the right.

http://www.petri.co.il/reinstall_tcp_ip_xp.htm

You can use the link below if you run into the 169 IP on Win 9'x or ME

http://www.bu.edu/pcsc/internetaccess/winsock2fix.html

For XP don't use the Network Wizard to the wireless card's utility to
configure the card.

Download the card's driver form it's Website.

Disable the Wireless Zero service on the XP machine.

If the Bridge Icon in there in Local Areas Connection screen, then delete
it

Use the XP Device Manager to install the card's driver and also configure
the card there at the Device Manager.

Do not use the card's utility to show signal strength, don't install it.
You can use *Show connection when connected" on the NIC's Properties that
will show the signal strength when the mouse is on the two monitors Icon in
the Job Tray.

For the Win 9'x machine, you must use the Network Wizard to make the
diskettes that must be used to install the XP software on the Win 9'x or
non NT based O/S so that XP can see and access the machine, if doing File
and Print Sharing with the machines. You don' use the Wizard, if networking
other XP or NT based O/S machines.

HTH

Duane
 
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