Wireless device to access wired ones

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:51:52 -0500, Jim T. wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:51:29 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:34:40 -0500, Jim T.
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:46:30 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
>>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>>>>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>>>>>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>>>>>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>>>>>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>>>>>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>>>>>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>>>>>network?
>>>>>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>>>>>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.
>>>>
>>>>It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
>>>>to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
>>>>information", right?
>>>>
>>>>If so, try a couple of links from here or here:
>>>>
>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>
>>>>
>>>Thanks for your response. The first reference is not like my problem.
>>
>>Both Google searches were identical, except that the first search was
>>limited to results from microsoft.com. Did you only check a single
>>result from each search?
> Only one entry uses the word "wireless" and it has a mulitiple page
> thread, never reaching a soultion. Someone blames the W7 build!
>>
>>>In fact, I easily solved his problem of having Win 7 and XP comps
>>>communicate. That is easy if both are on the same network, wireless or
>>>wired local.
>>
>>Also, make sure you're using the same Workgroup on the Win 7
>>computers. If you use a Homegroup, they won't be able to see the XP
>>PC's and vice versa.
> As stated, the nets have the same name. Homegroup is exclusive to W7.
> Unknown to XP.
>>
>>>The second is my problem, having wired and wireless share. Reading
>>>that whole thread, I conclude that the problem was never solved, at
>>>least by those people.
>>>Please keep looking, I am annoyed by this problem.
>>
>>I'm not convinced that the problem is one of sharing between wired and
>>wireless. Have you reconfigured the network, at least temporarily, to
>>verify your conclusion?
> Yes, as I said, if I have the W7 pc attach via wired connection,
> everything works.
>>
>>There is a wireless router feature that prevents the wireless clients
>>from seeing the wired clients, but it seems doubtful that the Comcast
>>router provides a setting for it, or that it would be enabled in the
>>first place.
> Router is a commercial product shown on the Netgear site. There's
> supposedly a feature called intfrastructure or something similar, but
> I can't find any info. Also some references to repeaters.
> BTW, FWIW ALL the devices are listed as attached. They just won't
> communicate.
> I assume that if I shoulod get a WIFI printer, it wouldn't see the
> wired machines at all. The printer attached to the W7 pc is not
> avalaible to any other device.
> Looks like it has to be all one way or the other.

Not sure about the Comquest side, but my 2Wire wireless router/DSL modem
has no difficulty seeing and accessing both wired and wirelessly connected
computers, one running XP and the other Win7. You might try a trial version
of Network Magic and see if that solves the problem.

On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:36:36 -0500, Jim T.
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 23:48:09 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>>Please provide the model number for the Netgear router. We need to
>>find out one way or another whether it has the wired-to-wireless
>>isolation feature. The answer probably lies there.
>
>Hardware Version WGR614v6
>Firmware Version V1.2.10_21.0.52NA

Excellent, thanks for providing that. I see that the WGR614 not only
offers a Guest network, but it also offers Wireless Isolation. Either
of those options will stop you cold, in the exact way that you've been
describing, if they aren't set correctly. Here's a pretty good article
that's written in plain English and may help.

<http://www.esecurityplanet.com/views/article.php/3875006/Improve-Your-Wireless-Security-With-the-Right-Routers.htm>

>>Less important, you've mentioned that the two nets have the same name.
>>Two nets? If you have a single router then you have a single net,
>>unless you're doing something a bit unusual. What are the two nets of
>>which you speak?
>
>Guess I misspoke. The Wireless Net and the Workgroup names are the
>same.

If you mean what I think you mean, there's no need to have those names
be the same, nor does it cause problems if they are. By Wireless Net,
I assume you mean the name you've given your wireless network, (SSID),
while the Workgroup name is a value that should be the same across all
4 PC's. The two (SSID and Workgroup names) are not related to each
other.

>>Lastly, you've said that the wired and wireless devices don't see each
>>other. By devices, I assume you mean the two wired PC's and the two
>>wireless PC's, right? The DVD player and the TV are fine, right? And
>>when the TV and DVD player are disconnected from the router, and the
>>two Win 7 PC's are connected to wired ports on the router, everything
>>is fine. Is that a true statement?
>Yes. I watch Netflix, etc on my TV via the DVD player with no
>problems. Didn't disconnect the TV and DVD, but when their power is
>off they do not show in the router as connected. When on, they do.
>Kindles doesn't seem to show, but it works.

I'm still wondering if all 4 computers can see each other if they are
all connected via Ethernet cables to the router's LAN ports. If they
can, it's most likely one of the two features mentioned above - the
Guest network or Wireless Isolation.


I see in a later follow-up that things have improved. If you've
cleared the main hurdle and can now see shared folders, it might be
time to look at folder and file sharing permissions as well as file
permissions. Lastly, firewalls and some Internet security programs are
notorious for blocking things when you least expect it.