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Jim T.
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      12-30-2010, 10:32 PM
I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
network?
BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.
 
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Char Jackson
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      12-30-2010, 10:46 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
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>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>network?
>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.


It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
information", right?

If so, try a couple of links from here or here:

<http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
<http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>


 
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      12-30-2010, 11:34 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:46:30 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>>network?
>>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.

>
>It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
>to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
>information", right?
>
>If so, try a couple of links from here or here:
>
><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>
>

Thanks for your response. The first reference is not like my problem.
In fact, I easily solved his problem of having Win 7 and XP comps
communicate. That is easy if both are on the same network, wireless or
wired local.
The second is my problem, having wired and wireless share. Reading
that whole thread, I conclude that the problem was never solved, at
least by those people.
Please keep looking, I am annoyed by this problem.
 
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      12-30-2010, 11:51 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:34:40 -0500, Jim T.
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:46:30 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>>>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>>>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>>>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>>>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>>>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>>>network?
>>>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>>>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.

>>
>>It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
>>to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
>>information", right?
>>
>>If so, try a couple of links from here or here:
>>
>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>
>>

>Thanks for your response. The first reference is not like my problem.


Both Google searches were identical, except that the first search was
limited to results from microsoft.com. Did you only check a single
result from each search?

>In fact, I easily solved his problem of having Win 7 and XP comps
>communicate. That is easy if both are on the same network, wireless or
>wired local.


Also, make sure you're using the same Workgroup on the Win 7
computers. If you use a Homegroup, they won't be able to see the XP
PC's and vice versa.

>The second is my problem, having wired and wireless share. Reading
>that whole thread, I conclude that the problem was never solved, at
>least by those people.
>Please keep looking, I am annoyed by this problem.


I'm not convinced that the problem is one of sharing between wired and
wireless. Have you reconfigured the network, at least temporarily, to
verify your conclusion?

There is a wireless router feature that prevents the wireless clients
from seeing the wired clients, but it seems doubtful that the Comcast
router provides a setting for it, or that it would be enabled in the
first place.

 
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      12-31-2010, 02:51 AM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:51:29 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:34:40 -0500, Jim T.
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:46:30 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>>>>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>>>>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>>>>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>>>>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>>>>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>>>>network?
>>>>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>>>>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.
>>>
>>>It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
>>>to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
>>>information", right?
>>>
>>>If so, try a couple of links from here or here:
>>>
>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>
>>>

>>Thanks for your response. The first reference is not like my problem.

>
>Both Google searches were identical, except that the first search was
>limited to results from microsoft.com. Did you only check a single
>result from each search?

Only one entry uses the word "wireless" and it has a mulitiple page
thread, never reaching a soultion. Someone blames the W7 build!
>
>>In fact, I easily solved his problem of having Win 7 and XP comps
>>communicate. That is easy if both are on the same network, wireless or
>>wired local.

>
>Also, make sure you're using the same Workgroup on the Win 7
>computers. If you use a Homegroup, they won't be able to see the XP
>PC's and vice versa.

As stated, the nets have the same name. Homegroup is exclusive to W7.
Unknown to XP.
>
>>The second is my problem, having wired and wireless share. Reading
>>that whole thread, I conclude that the problem was never solved, at
>>least by those people.
>>Please keep looking, I am annoyed by this problem.

>
>I'm not convinced that the problem is one of sharing between wired and
>wireless. Have you reconfigured the network, at least temporarily, to
>verify your conclusion?

Yes, as I said, if I have the W7 pc attach via wired connection,
everything works.
>
>There is a wireless router feature that prevents the wireless clients
>from seeing the wired clients, but it seems doubtful that the Comcast
>router provides a setting for it, or that it would be enabled in the
>first place.

Router is a commercial product shown on the Netgear site. There's
supposedly a feature called intfrastructure or something similar, but
I can't find any info. Also some references to repeaters.
BTW, FWIW ALL the devices are listed as attached. They just won't
communicate.
I assume that if I shoulod get a WIFI printer, it wouldn't see the
wired machines at all. The printer attached to the W7 pc is not
avalaible to any other device.
Looks like it has to be all one way or the other.
 
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      12-31-2010, 04:48 AM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:51:52 -0500, Jim T.
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:51:29 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:34:40 -0500, Jim T.
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:46:30 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
>>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>>>>>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>>>>>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>>>>>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>>>>>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>>>>>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>>>>>network?
>>>>>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>>>>>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.
>>>>
>>>>It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
>>>>to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
>>>>information", right?
>>>>
>>>>If so, try a couple of links from here or here:
>>>>
>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>
>>>>
>>>Thanks for your response. The first reference is not like my problem.

>>
>>Both Google searches were identical, except that the first search was
>>limited to results from microsoft.com. Did you only check a single
>>result from each search?

>Only one entry uses the word "wireless" and it has a mulitiple page
>thread, never reaching a soultion. Someone blames the W7 build!
>>
>>>In fact, I easily solved his problem of having Win 7 and XP comps
>>>communicate. That is easy if both are on the same network, wireless or
>>>wired local.

>>
>>Also, make sure you're using the same Workgroup on the Win 7
>>computers. If you use a Homegroup, they won't be able to see the XP
>>PC's and vice versa.

>As stated, the nets have the same name. Homegroup is exclusive to W7.
>Unknown to XP.
>>
>>>The second is my problem, having wired and wireless share. Reading
>>>that whole thread, I conclude that the problem was never solved, at
>>>least by those people.
>>>Please keep looking, I am annoyed by this problem.

>>
>>I'm not convinced that the problem is one of sharing between wired and
>>wireless. Have you reconfigured the network, at least temporarily, to
>>verify your conclusion?

>Yes, as I said, if I have the W7 pc attach via wired connection,
>everything works.
>>
>>There is a wireless router feature that prevents the wireless clients
>>from seeing the wired clients, but it seems doubtful that the Comcast
>>router provides a setting for it, or that it would be enabled in the
>>first place.

>Router is a commercial product shown on the Netgear site. There's
>supposedly a feature called intfrastructure or something similar, but
>I can't find any info. Also some references to repeaters.
>BTW, FWIW ALL the devices are listed as attached. They just won't
>communicate.
>I assume that if I shoulod get a WIFI printer, it wouldn't see the
>wired machines at all. The printer attached to the W7 pc is not
>avalaible to any other device.
>Looks like it has to be all one way or the other.


Please provide the model number for the Netgear router. We need to
find out one way or another whether it has the wired-to-wireless
isolation feature. The answer probably lies there.

Less important, you've mentioned that the two nets have the same name.
Two nets? If you have a single router then you have a single net,
unless you're doing something a bit unusual. What are the two nets of
which you speak?

Lastly, you've said that the wired and wireless devices don't see each
other. By devices, I assume you mean the two wired PC's and the two
wireless PC's, right? The DVD player and the TV are fine, right? And
when the TV and DVD player are disconnected from the router, and the
two Win 7 PC's are connected to wired ports on the router, everything
is fine. Is that a true statement?

 
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      12-31-2010, 01:36 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 23:48:09 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:51:52 -0500, Jim T.
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:51:29 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:34:40 -0500, Jim T.
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:46:30 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
>>>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>>>>>>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>>>>>>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>>>>>>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>>>>>>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>>>>>>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>>>>>>network?
>>>>>>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>>>>>>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.
>>>>>
>>>>>It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
>>>>>to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
>>>>>information", right?
>>>>>
>>>>>If so, try a couple of links from here or here:
>>>>>
>>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
>>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>
>>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your response. The first reference is not like my problem.
>>>
>>>Both Google searches were identical, except that the first search was
>>>limited to results from microsoft.com. Did you only check a single
>>>result from each search?

>>Only one entry uses the word "wireless" and it has a mulitiple page
>>thread, never reaching a soultion. Someone blames the W7 build!
>>>
>>>>In fact, I easily solved his problem of having Win 7 and XP comps
>>>>communicate. That is easy if both are on the same network, wireless or
>>>>wired local.
>>>
>>>Also, make sure you're using the same Workgroup on the Win 7
>>>computers. If you use a Homegroup, they won't be able to see the XP
>>>PC's and vice versa.

>>As stated, the nets have the same name. Homegroup is exclusive to W7.
>>Unknown to XP.
>>>
>>>>The second is my problem, having wired and wireless share. Reading
>>>>that whole thread, I conclude that the problem was never solved, at
>>>>least by those people.
>>>>Please keep looking, I am annoyed by this problem.
>>>
>>>I'm not convinced that the problem is one of sharing between wired and
>>>wireless. Have you reconfigured the network, at least temporarily, to
>>>verify your conclusion?

>>Yes, as I said, if I have the W7 pc attach via wired connection,
>>everything works.
>>>
>>>There is a wireless router feature that prevents the wireless clients
>>>from seeing the wired clients, but it seems doubtful that the Comcast
>>>router provides a setting for it, or that it would be enabled in the
>>>first place.

>>Router is a commercial product shown on the Netgear site. There's
>>supposedly a feature called intfrastructure or something similar, but
>>I can't find any info. Also some references to repeaters.
>>BTW, FWIW ALL the devices are listed as attached. They just won't
>>communicate.
>>I assume that if I shoulod get a WIFI printer, it wouldn't see the
>>wired machines at all. The printer attached to the W7 pc is not
>>avalaible to any other device.
>>Looks like it has to be all one way or the other.

>
>Please provide the model number for the Netgear router. We need to
>find out one way or another whether it has the wired-to-wireless
>isolation feature. The answer probably lies there.


Hardware Version WGR614v6
Firmware Version V1.2.10_21.0.52NA
>
>Less important, you've mentioned that the two nets have the same name.
>Two nets? If you have a single router then you have a single net,
>unless you're doing something a bit unusual. What are the two nets of
>which you speak?


Guess I misspoke. The Wireless Net and the Workgroup names are the
same.
>
>Lastly, you've said that the wired and wireless devices don't see each
>other. By devices, I assume you mean the two wired PC's and the two
>wireless PC's, right? The DVD player and the TV are fine, right? And
>when the TV and DVD player are disconnected from the router, and the
>two Win 7 PC's are connected to wired ports on the router, everything
>is fine. Is that a true statement?

Yes. I watch Netflix, etc on my TV via the DVD player with no
problems. Didn't disconnect the TV and DVD, but when their power is
off they do not show in the router as connected. When on, they do.
Kindles doesn't seem to show, but it works.

 
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      12-31-2010, 03:47 PM
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 23:48:09 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 22:51:52 -0500, Jim T.
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:51:29 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:34:40 -0500, Jim T.
>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:46:30 -0600, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:32:03 -0500, Jim T.
>>>>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a Comcast-provided wireless router. I have all the wired slots
>>>>>>occupied by devices (two computers, TV, DVD player.) The computers
>>>>>>both run XP. My new computer runs Win 7 and has a wireless connection.
>>>>>>It and the Kindle access the internet just fine, but the wired and
>>>>>>wireless devices don't see each other. Both networks have the same
>>>>>>name, FWIW. Is there a way to have the three computers share a
>>>>>>network?
>>>>>>BTW, I tried to access the Netgear forums, but their registration
>>>>>>process was so complex that I failed several times and gave up.
>>>>>
>>>>>It sounds like your essential question is how to get the XP computers
>>>>>to see the Win 7 computer, and vice versa. The rest is just "other
>>>>>information", right?
>>>>>
>>>>>If so, try a couple of links from here or here:
>>>>>
>>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7+site%3Amicrosoft.com>
>>>>><http://www.google.com/search?q=networking+xp+and+7>
>>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your response. The first reference is not like my problem.
>>>
>>>Both Google searches were identical, except that the first search was
>>>limited to results from microsoft.com. Did you only check a single
>>>result from each search?

>>Only one entry uses the word "wireless" and it has a mulitiple page
>>thread, never reaching a soultion. Someone blames the W7 build!
>>>
>>>>In fact, I easily solved his problem of having Win 7 and XP comps
>>>>communicate. That is easy if both are on the same network, wireless or
>>>>wired local.
>>>
>>>Also, make sure you're using the same Workgroup on the Win 7
>>>computers. If you use a Homegroup, they won't be able to see the XP
>>>PC's and vice versa.

>>As stated, the nets have the same name. Homegroup is exclusive to W7.
>>Unknown to XP.
>>>
>>>>The second is my problem, having wired and wireless share. Reading
>>>>that whole thread, I conclude that the problem was never solved, at
>>>>least by those people.
>>>>Please keep looking, I am annoyed by this problem.
>>>
>>>I'm not convinced that the problem is one of sharing between wired and
>>>wireless. Have you reconfigured the network, at least temporarily, to
>>>verify your conclusion?

>>Yes, as I said, if I have the W7 pc attach via wired connection,
>>everything works.
>>>
>>>There is a wireless router feature that prevents the wireless clients
>>>from seeing the wired clients, but it seems doubtful that the Comcast
>>>router provides a setting for it, or that it would be enabled in the
>>>first place.

>>Router is a commercial product shown on the Netgear site. There's
>>supposedly a feature called intfrastructure or something similar, but
>>I can't find any info. Also some references to repeaters.
>>BTW, FWIW ALL the devices are listed as attached. They just won't
>>communicate.
>>I assume that if I shoulod get a WIFI printer, it wouldn't see the
>>wired machines at all. The printer attached to the W7 pc is not
>>avalaible to any other device.
>>Looks like it has to be all one way or the other.

>
>Please provide the model number for the Netgear router. We need to
>find out one way or another whether it has the wired-to-wireless
>isolation feature. The answer probably lies there.


Hardware Version WGR614v6
Firmware Version V1.2.10_21.0.52NA
>
>Less important, you've mentioned that the two nets have the same name.
>Two nets? If you have a single router then you have a single net,
>unless you're doing something a bit unusual. What are the two nets of
>which you speak?


Guess I misspoke. The Wireless Net and the Workgroup names are the
same.
>
>Lastly, you've said that the wired and wireless devices don't see each
>other. By devices, I assume you mean the two wired PC's and the two
>wireless PC's, right? The DVD player and the TV are fine, right? And
>when the TV and DVD player are disconnected from the router, and the
>two Win 7 PC's are connected to wired ports on the router, everything
>is fine. Is that a true statement?

Yes. I watch Netflix, etc on my TV via the DVD player with no
problems. Didn't disconnect the TV and DVD, but when their power is
off they do not show in the router as connected. When on, they do.
Kindles doesn't seem to show, but it works.

 
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      12-31-2010, 04:01 PM
Voila---
I did nothing!!! Now all the computers see each other. Directories
only - access is denied when try to see contents.
Working again on sharing.
 
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      12-31-2010, 04:03 PM
Voila---
I did nothing!!! Now all the computers see each other. Directories
only - access is denied when try to see contents.
Working again on sharing.
 
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