Wireless connection dropping intermittently on MN 700

Hi all,

I have a problem with my wireless connection occasionally
dropping out on my MN 700.

Symptoms:
I have had the MN700 since late last year with no
problems until this current year. I'm using the Intel
Proset utility on a Gateway 200 laptop to manage my
connections (switched in an attempt to fix this
problem). It offers nice bar displays for signal quality
and signal strength. Prior to losing connection, I can
see the signal quality dive to 0 a few times (frequency
of about once per 2-3 seconds) with the signal strength
staying up at full. Eventually, the signal dives to 0 as
well and I'm disconnected. It's almost as if the MN700
is getting some interference thus giving up and
saying, "screw it" and shuts down the radio. It is
unaccessible at this point for a variable amount of time
up to about 20 seconds. This is happening mostly during
the day. Doesn't happen much in late evenings. Nothing
in the base station log to indicate anything happening.
The Intel Proset utility will increment the "AP did not
transmit" count everytime this occurs. This happens
regardless of distance to AP. I have been within 2 feet
of it when this happens. All wireless clients are
disconnected at the same time. Strangely enough, I can
still access either one of 2 AP's nearby.

Configuration:
- MN700 is configured in access point only mode connected
to a Linksys BEFSR41 router. There is another laptop
running win98 with the MN740 adapter and occasionally, my
pocket pc. 64 bit WEP is enabled and MN700 is configured
to run mixed b/g.
- Access point is located on a shelf about 4 ft above and
15 ft away from where I usually work.
- There are 2 other networks in my area that I can see.
Both are running without WEP and are sitting on channels
6 and 11. One of these is an Xmicro wireless router
(based on the SSID I get) and the other is unknown but
started up sometime early this year. I have moved mine
to channel 1.
- I live in a 4 floor apartment building. I have no
2.4Ghz phones, only 2 900Mhz phones.

Questions:
1. Is what I'm seeing the result of some phone
interference or one of those baby monitors? It almost
makes sense when I see the quality bar dive to 0 in what
almost seems like a phone ringing interval and then
complete lost of network.
2. How does the MN700 handle interference? Does it
shutdown completely or has the source of the interference
completely blanked out the signal?
3. Anything I can do to get past this? Some timeout
value I can set somewhere? Get a Linksys or D-Link? I
want to stop short of wallpapering my apartment with
tinfoil or getting a huge honking antenna, 500W RF
amplifier and cobbling together a giant transmitter
beacon?
4. Could this be something other than interference?
Could power source (no surge protector on power bar) or
something else cause intermittent transmitter shutdown?
It's strange that only my AP gets taken offline by
these "black outs".


Thanks for any help or confirmation of the symptoms of
connection loss I am seeing.

Welcome to the club... there are lots of us with the same
problem. I have the MN-730 and it's the same thing...
I have a support case with microsoft going right now but
it's really getting me know where. If anyone else out
there can help, PLEASE DO!

Thanks,

Dee dubya


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi all,
>
>I have a problem with my wireless connection
occasionally
>dropping out on my MN 700.
>
>Symptoms:
>I have had the MN700 since late last year with no
>problems until this current year. I'm using the Intel
>Proset utility on a Gateway 200 laptop to manage my
>connections (switched in an attempt to fix this
>problem). It offers nice bar displays for signal
quality
>and signal strength. Prior to losing connection, I can
>see the signal quality dive to 0 a few times (frequency
>of about once per 2-3 seconds) with the signal strength
>staying up at full. Eventually, the signal dives to 0
as
>well and I'm disconnected. It's almost as if the MN700
>is getting some interference thus giving up and
>saying, "screw it" and shuts down the radio. It is
>unaccessible at this point for a variable amount of time
>up to about 20 seconds. This is happening mostly during
>the day. Doesn't happen much in late evenings. Nothing
>in the base station log to indicate anything happening.
>The Intel Proset utility will increment the "AP did not
>transmit" count everytime this occurs. This happens
>regardless of distance to AP. I have been within 2 feet
>of it when this happens. All wireless clients are
>disconnected at the same time. Strangely enough, I can
>still access either one of 2 AP's nearby.
>
>Configuration:
>- MN700 is configured in access point only mode
connected
>to a Linksys BEFSR41 router. There is another laptop
>running win98 with the MN740 adapter and occasionally,
my
>pocket pc. 64 bit WEP is enabled and MN700 is
configured
>to run mixed b/g.
>- Access point is located on a shelf about 4 ft above
and
>15 ft away from where I usually work.
>- There are 2 other networks in my area that I can see.
>Both are running without WEP and are sitting on channels
>6 and 11. One of these is an Xmicro wireless router
>(based on the SSID I get) and the other is unknown but
>started up sometime early this year. I have moved mine
>to channel 1.
>- I live in a 4 floor apartment building. I have no
>2.4Ghz phones, only 2 900Mhz phones.
>
>Questions:
>1. Is what I'm seeing the result of some phone
>interference or one of those baby monitors? It almost
>makes sense when I see the quality bar dive to 0 in what
>almost seems like a phone ringing interval and then
>complete lost of network.
>2. How does the MN700 handle interference? Does it
>shutdown completely or has the source of the
interference
>completely blanked out the signal?
>3. Anything I can do to get past this? Some timeout
>value I can set somewhere? Get a Linksys or D-Link? I
>want to stop short of wallpapering my apartment with
>tinfoil or getting a huge honking antenna, 500W RF
>amplifier and cobbling together a giant transmitter
>beacon?
>4. Could this be something other than interference?
>Could power source (no surge protector on power bar) or
>something else cause intermittent transmitter shutdown?
>It's strange that only my AP gets taken offline by
>these "black outs".
>
>
>Thanks for any help or confirmation of the symptoms of
>connection loss I am seeing.
>.
>

Nice to know I'm not alone. Is there a membership card
for this club and weekly meetings? :-)

I really dislike dealing with tech support until I've
basically found the problem myself.

Does everyone else's dropoff problems exhibit the same
symptoms as mine? Loss of signal quality followed by
complete loss of signal strength? Since it's
intermittent, I would tend to believe it's interference
based or firmware related or a combination of the two
(i.e. interference causes firmware to react in such a way
as to turn off the transmitter).

I have currently enabled MAC filtering to ensure that I
don't have anyone hopping onto my network and in
preparation for testing the scenario with WEP turned
off. Not sure if WEP is implemented in hardware or
firmware. If firmware, there's always the chance of some
kind of bug (memory leak, resource allocation, blah blah
blah...). Along the same lines, is it possible for an
errant network card to "take down" an access point? I'm
running an Intel 2100 with 1.1.5.0 firmware. I haven't
read up about wireless networks in detail, so I'm not
sure how signal quality is established and what is done
to compensate for poor signal quality.

If this doesn't pan out, then I will try relocating my AP
to another room. I don't know if maybe my upstairs
neighbor has bought some 2.4Ghz transmitting equipment of
some type and placed immediately above my AP.

The only other thing I can think of is to try and detect
interference during my "brown-outs". I have an
oscilloscope but I don't know what I can use to actually
read the signal. Anyone have any experience with doing
this?

After this, I'm out of ideas other than to purchase
another AP and put it in the same place and see if I get
the same problem.

Thanks,

Cheek
>-----Original Message-----
>Welcome to the club... there are lots of us with the
same
>problem. I have the MN-730 and it's the same thing...
>I have a support case with microsoft going right now but
>it's really getting me know where. If anyone else out
>there can help, PLEASE DO!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dee dubya
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I have a problem with my wireless connection
>occasionally
>>dropping out on my MN 700.
>>
>>Symptoms:
>>I have had the MN700 since late last year with no
>>problems until this current year. I'm using the Intel
>>Proset utility on a Gateway 200 laptop to manage my
>>connections (switched in an attempt to fix this
>>problem). It offers nice bar displays for signal
>quality
>>and signal strength. Prior to losing connection, I can
>>see the signal quality dive to 0 a few times (frequency
>>of about once per 2-3 seconds) with the signal strength
>>staying up at full. Eventually, the signal dives to 0
>as
>>well and I'm disconnected. It's almost as if the MN700
>>is getting some interference thus giving up and
>>saying, "screw it" and shuts down the radio. It is
>>unaccessible at this point for a variable amount of
time
>>up to about 20 seconds. This is happening mostly
during
>>the day. Doesn't happen much in late evenings.
Nothing
>>in the base station log to indicate anything
happening.
>>The Intel Proset utility will increment the "AP did not
>>transmit" count everytime this occurs. This happens
>>regardless of distance to AP. I have been within 2
feet
>>of it when this happens. All wireless clients are
>>disconnected at the same time. Strangely enough, I can
>>still access either one of 2 AP's nearby.
>>
>>Configuration:
>>- MN700 is configured in access point only mode
>connected
>>to a Linksys BEFSR41 router. There is another laptop
>>running win98 with the MN740 adapter and occasionally,
>my
>>pocket pc. 64 bit WEP is enabled and MN700 is
>configured
>>to run mixed b/g.
>>- Access point is located on a shelf about 4 ft above
>and
>>15 ft away from where I usually work.
>>- There are 2 other networks in my area that I can
see.
>>Both are running without WEP and are sitting on
channels
>>6 and 11. One of these is an Xmicro wireless router
>>(based on the SSID I get) and the other is unknown but
>>started up sometime early this year. I have moved mine
>>to channel 1.
>>- I live in a 4 floor apartment building. I have no
>>2.4Ghz phones, only 2 900Mhz phones.
>>
>>Questions:
>>1. Is what I'm seeing the result of some phone
>>interference or one of those baby monitors? It almost
>>makes sense when I see the quality bar dive to 0 in
what
>>almost seems like a phone ringing interval and then
>>complete lost of network.
>>2. How does the MN700 handle interference? Does it
>>shutdown completely or has the source of the
>interference
>>completely blanked out the signal?
>>3. Anything I can do to get past this? Some timeout
>>value I can set somewhere? Get a Linksys or D-Link? I
>>want to stop short of wallpapering my apartment with
>>tinfoil or getting a huge honking antenna, 500W RF
>>amplifier and cobbling together a giant transmitter
>>beacon?
>>4. Could this be something other than interference?
>>Could power source (no surge protector on power bar) or
>>something else cause intermittent transmitter
shutdown?
>>It's strange that only my AP gets taken offline by
>>these "black outs".
>>
>>
>>Thanks for any help or confirmation of the symptoms of
>>connection loss I am seeing.
>>.
>>
>.
>

I am experiencing the same issue and here is what I've
determined....

If I go into the base station management tool and disable
the wireless transmissions completely then re-enable them
on mixed mode b, all my devices simultaneously reconnect.
Seems from all indications that the radio transmitter just
stops sending or receiving data.


>-----Original Message-----
>Nice to know I'm not alone. Is there a membership card
>for this club and weekly meetings? :-)
>
>I really dislike dealing with tech support until I've
>basically found the problem myself.
>
>Does everyone else's dropoff problems exhibit the same
>symptoms as mine? Loss of signal quality followed by
>complete loss of signal strength? Since it's
>intermittent, I would tend to believe it's interference
>based or firmware related or a combination of the two
>(i.e. interference causes firmware to react in such a way
>as to turn off the transmitter).
>
>I have currently enabled MAC filtering to ensure that I
>don't have anyone hopping onto my network and in
>preparation for testing the scenario with WEP turned
>off. Not sure if WEP is implemented in hardware or
>firmware. If firmware, there's always the chance of some
>kind of bug (memory leak, resource allocation, blah blah
>blah...). Along the same lines, is it possible for an
>errant network card to "take down" an access point? I'm
>running an Intel 2100 with 1.1.5.0 firmware. I haven't
>read up about wireless networks in detail, so I'm not
>sure how signal quality is established and what is done
>to compensate for poor signal quality.
>
>If this doesn't pan out, then I will try relocating my AP
>to another room. I don't know if maybe my upstairs
>neighbor has bought some 2.4Ghz transmitting equipment of
>some type and placed immediately above my AP.
>
>The only other thing I can think of is to try and detect
>interference during my "brown-outs". I have an
>oscilloscope but I don't know what I can use to actually
>read the signal. Anyone have any experience with doing
>this?
>
>After this, I'm out of ideas other than to purchase
>another AP and put it in the same place and see if I get
>the same problem.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Cheek
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Welcome to the club... there are lots of us with the
>same
>>problem. I have the MN-730 and it's the same thing...
>>I have a support case with microsoft going right now but
>>it's really getting me know where. If anyone else out
>>there can help, PLEASE DO!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Dee dubya
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I have a problem with my wireless connection
>>occasionally
>>>dropping out on my MN 700.
>>>
>>>Symptoms:
>>>I have had the MN700 since late last year with no
>>>problems until this current year. I'm using the Intel
>>>Proset utility on a Gateway 200 laptop to manage my
>>>connections (switched in an attempt to fix this
>>>problem). It offers nice bar displays for signal
>>quality
>>>and signal strength. Prior to losing connection, I can
>>>see the signal quality dive to 0 a few times (frequency
>>>of about once per 2-3 seconds) with the signal strength
>>>staying up at full. Eventually, the signal dives to 0
>>as
>>>well and I'm disconnected. It's almost as if the MN700
>>>is getting some interference thus giving up and
>>>saying, "screw it" and shuts down the radio. It is
>>>unaccessible at this point for a variable amount of
>time
>>>up to about 20 seconds. This is happening mostly
>during
>>>the day. Doesn't happen much in late evenings.
>Nothing
>>>in the base station log to indicate anything
>happening.
>>>The Intel Proset utility will increment the "AP did not
>>>transmit" count everytime this occurs. This happens
>>>regardless of distance to AP. I have been within 2
>feet
>>>of it when this happens. All wireless clients are
>>>disconnected at the same time. Strangely enough, I can
>>>still access either one of 2 AP's nearby.
>>>
>>>Configuration:
>>>- MN700 is configured in access point only mode
>>connected
>>>to a Linksys BEFSR41 router. There is another laptop
>>>running win98 with the MN740 adapter and occasionally,
>>my
>>>pocket pc. 64 bit WEP is enabled and MN700 is
>>configured
>>>to run mixed b/g.
>>>- Access point is located on a shelf about 4 ft above
>>and
>>>15 ft away from where I usually work.
>>>- There are 2 other networks in my area that I can
>see.
>>>Both are running without WEP and are sitting on
>channels
>>>6 and 11. One of these is an Xmicro wireless router
>>>(based on the SSID I get) and the other is unknown but
>>>started up sometime early this year. I have moved mine
>>>to channel 1.
>>>- I live in a 4 floor apartment building. I have no
>>>2.4Ghz phones, only 2 900Mhz phones.
>>>
>>>Questions:
>>>1. Is what I'm seeing the result of some phone
>>>interference or one of those baby monitors? It almost
>>>makes sense when I see the quality bar dive to 0 in
>what
>>>almost seems like a phone ringing interval and then
>>>complete lost of network.
>>>2. How does the MN700 handle interference? Does it
>>>shutdown completely or has the source of the
>>interference
>>>completely blanked out the signal?
>>>3. Anything I can do to get past this? Some timeout
>>>value I can set somewhere? Get a Linksys or D-Link? I
>>>want to stop short of wallpapering my apartment with
>>>tinfoil or getting a huge honking antenna, 500W RF
>>>amplifier and cobbling together a giant transmitter
>>>beacon?
>>>4. Could this be something other than interference?
>>>Could power source (no surge protector on power bar) or
>>>something else cause intermittent transmitter
>shutdown?
>>>It's strange that only my AP gets taken offline by
>>>these "black outs".
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help or confirmation of the symptoms of
>>>connection loss I am seeing.
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

sell the POS and get a Linksys

"Cheek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7f4801c3e969$10d55480$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> I have a problem with my wireless connection occasionally
> dropping out on my MN 700.

I agree with this. Very randomly, and for short periods of time, the router
must stop broadcasting for some reason.

When I have my notebook and desktop running at the same time while this
symptom occurs, the "Wireless Connection Unavailable" message appears on
both machines at the same time. When the connection reestablishes, they both
connect to the network at the same time.


"Claies" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:8e8b01c3ea0b$0db6ced0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am experiencing the same issue and here is what I've
> determined....
>
> If I go into the base station management tool and disable
> the wireless transmissions completely then re-enable them
> on mixed mode b, all my devices simultaneously reconnect.
> Seems from all indications that the radio transmitter just
> stops sending or receiving data.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Nice to know I'm not alone. Is there a membership card
> >for this club and weekly meetings? :-)
> >
> >I really dislike dealing with tech support until I've
> >basically found the problem myself.
> >
> >Does everyone else's dropoff problems exhibit the same
> >symptoms as mine? Loss of signal quality followed by
> >complete loss of signal strength? Since it's
> >intermittent, I would tend to believe it's interference
> >based or firmware related or a combination of the two
> >(i.e. interference causes firmware to react in such a way
> >as to turn off the transmitter).
> >
> >I have currently enabled MAC filtering to ensure that I
> >don't have anyone hopping onto my network and in
> >preparation for testing the scenario with WEP turned
> >off. Not sure if WEP is implemented in hardware or
> >firmware. If firmware, there's always the chance of some
> >kind of bug (memory leak, resource allocation, blah blah
> >blah...). Along the same lines, is it possible for an
> >errant network card to "take down" an access point? I'm
> >running an Intel 2100 with 1.1.5.0 firmware. I haven't
> >read up about wireless networks in detail, so I'm not
> >sure how signal quality is established and what is done
> >to compensate for poor signal quality.
> >
> >If this doesn't pan out, then I will try relocating my AP
> >to another room. I don't know if maybe my upstairs
> >neighbor has bought some 2.4Ghz transmitting equipment of
> >some type and placed immediately above my AP.
> >
> >The only other thing I can think of is to try and detect
> >interference during my "brown-outs". I have an
> >oscilloscope but I don't know what I can use to actually
> >read the signal. Anyone have any experience with doing
> >this?
> >
> >After this, I'm out of ideas other than to purchase
> >another AP and put it in the same place and see if I get
> >the same problem.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Cheek
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>Welcome to the club... there are lots of us with the
> >same
> >>problem. I have the MN-730 and it's the same thing...
> >>I have a support case with microsoft going right now but
> >>it's really getting me know where. If anyone else out
> >>there can help, PLEASE DO!
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Dee dubya
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>I have a problem with my wireless connection
> >>occasionally
> >>>dropping out on my MN 700.
> >>>
> >>>Symptoms:
> >>>I have had the MN700 since late last year with no
> >>>problems until this current year. I'm using the Intel
> >>>Proset utility on a Gateway 200 laptop to manage my
> >>>connections (switched in an attempt to fix this
> >>>problem). It offers nice bar displays for signal
> >>quality
> >>>and signal strength. Prior to losing connection, I can
> >>>see the signal quality dive to 0 a few times (frequency
> >>>of about once per 2-3 seconds) with the signal strength
> >>>staying up at full. Eventually, the signal dives to 0
> >>as
> >>>well and I'm disconnected. It's almost as if the MN700
> >>>is getting some interference thus giving up and
> >>>saying, "screw it" and shuts down the radio. It is
> >>>unaccessible at this point for a variable amount of
> >time
> >>>up to about 20 seconds. This is happening mostly
> >during
> >>>the day. Doesn't happen much in late evenings.
> >Nothing
> >>>in the base station log to indicate anything
> >happening.
> >>>The Intel Proset utility will increment the "AP did not
> >>>transmit" count everytime this occurs. This happens
> >>>regardless of distance to AP. I have been within 2
> >feet
> >>>of it when this happens. All wireless clients are
> >>>disconnected at the same time. Strangely enough, I can
> >>>still access either one of 2 AP's nearby.
> >>>
> >>>Configuration:
> >>>- MN700 is configured in access point only mode
> >>connected
> >>>to a Linksys BEFSR41 router. There is another laptop
> >>>running win98 with the MN740 adapter and occasionally,
> >>my
> >>>pocket pc. 64 bit WEP is enabled and MN700 is
> >>configured
> >>>to run mixed b/g.
> >>>- Access point is located on a shelf about 4 ft above
> >>and
> >>>15 ft away from where I usually work.
> >>>- There are 2 other networks in my area that I can
> >see.
> >>>Both are running without WEP and are sitting on
> >channels
> >>>6 and 11. One of these is an Xmicro wireless router
> >>>(based on the SSID I get) and the other is unknown but
> >>>started up sometime early this year. I have moved mine
> >>>to channel 1.
> >>>- I live in a 4 floor apartment building. I have no
> >>>2.4Ghz phones, only 2 900Mhz phones.
> >>>
> >>>Questions:
> >>>1. Is what I'm seeing the result of some phone
> >>>interference or one of those baby monitors? It almost
> >>>makes sense when I see the quality bar dive to 0 in
> >what
> >>>almost seems like a phone ringing interval and then
> >>>complete lost of network.
> >>>2. How does the MN700 handle interference? Does it
> >>>shutdown completely or has the source of the
> >>interference
> >>>completely blanked out the signal?
> >>>3. Anything I can do to get past this? Some timeout
> >>>value I can set somewhere? Get a Linksys or D-Link? I
> >>>want to stop short of wallpapering my apartment with
> >>>tinfoil or getting a huge honking antenna, 500W RF
> >>>amplifier and cobbling together a giant transmitter
> >>>beacon?
> >>>4. Could this be something other than interference?
> >>>Could power source (no surge protector on power bar) or
> >>>something else cause intermittent transmitter
> >shutdown?
> >>>It's strange that only my AP gets taken offline by
> >>>these "black outs".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for any help or confirmation of the symptoms of
> >>>connection loss I am seeing.
> >>>.
> >>>
> >>.
> >>
> >.
> >

I seem to have a decent connection tonight without any
drops. The only changes I've made is to enable MAC
address filtering and removed a couple of small coke cans
(unopened) that were close to the antenna. Could they
have caused some sort of feedback to the antenna causing
the transmitter to shutdown?

Do any of you who have the problem have other networks
nearby? If so, any idea what brands and any details
(i.e. strength of their connections etc...)? I've
noticed my closest neighbor sometimes gives me excellent
signal quality with fairly good signal strength and at
other times, it seems to drop off. Do different AP's
sometimes not get along?

You'd think that if the radio reset, there would be
something in the base station log. Anyway to increase or
change the level of debug in that log?

>-----Original Message-----
>I agree with this. Very randomly, and for short periods
of time, the router
>must stop broadcasting for some reason.
>
>When I have my notebook and desktop running at the same
time while this
>symptom occurs, the "Wireless Connection Unavailable"
message appears on
>both machines at the same time. When the connection
reestablishes, they both
>connect to the network at the same time.
>
>
>"Claies" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:8e8b01c3ea0b$0db6ced0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I am experiencing the same issue and here is what I've
>> determined....
>>
>> If I go into the base station management tool and
disable
>> the wireless transmissions completely then re-enable
them
>> on mixed mode b, all my devices simultaneously
reconnect.
>> Seems from all indications that the radio transmitter
just
>> stops sending or receiving data.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Nice to know I'm not alone. Is there a membership
card
>> >for this club and weekly meetings? :-)
>> >
>> >I really dislike dealing with tech support until I've
>> >basically found the problem myself.
>> >
>> >Does everyone else's dropoff problems exhibit the same
>> >symptoms as mine? Loss of signal quality followed by
>> >complete loss of signal strength? Since it's
>> >intermittent, I would tend to believe it's
interference
>> >based or firmware related or a combination of the two
>> >(i.e. interference causes firmware to react in such a
way
>> >as to turn off the transmitter).
>> >
>> >I have currently enabled MAC filtering to ensure that
I
>> >don't have anyone hopping onto my network and in
>> >preparation for testing the scenario with WEP turned
>> >off. Not sure if WEP is implemented in hardware or
>> >firmware. If firmware, there's always the chance of
some
>> >kind of bug (memory leak, resource allocation, blah
blah
>> >blah...). Along the same lines, is it possible for an
>> >errant network card to "take down" an access point?
I'm
>> >running an Intel 2100 with 1.1.5.0 firmware. I
haven't
>> >read up about wireless networks in detail, so I'm not
>> >sure how signal quality is established and what is
done
>> >to compensate for poor signal quality.
>> >
>> >If this doesn't pan out, then I will try relocating
my AP
>> >to another room. I don't know if maybe my upstairs
>> >neighbor has bought some 2.4Ghz transmitting
equipment of
>> >some type and placed immediately above my AP.
>> >
>> >The only other thing I can think of is to try and
detect
>> >interference during my "brown-outs". I have an
>> >oscilloscope but I don't know what I can use to
actually
>> >read the signal. Anyone have any experience with
doing
>> >this?
>> >
>> >After this, I'm out of ideas other than to purchase
>> >another AP and put it in the same place and see if I
get
>> >the same problem.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Cheek
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>Welcome to the club... there are lots of us with the
>> >same
>> >>problem. I have the MN-730 and it's the same
thing...
>> >>I have a support case with microsoft going right now
but
>> >>it's really getting me know where. If anyone else out
>> >>there can help, PLEASE DO!
>> >>
>> >>Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Dee dubya
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>>I have a problem with my wireless connection
>> >>occasionally
>> >>>dropping out on my MN 700.
>> >>>
>> >>>Symptoms:
>> >>>I have had the MN700 since late last year with no
>> >>>problems until this current year. I'm using the
Intel
>> >>>Proset utility on a Gateway 200 laptop to manage my
>> >>>connections (switched in an attempt to fix this
>> >>>problem). It offers nice bar displays for signal
>> >>quality
>> >>>and signal strength. Prior to losing connection, I
can
>> >>>see the signal quality dive to 0 a few times
(frequency
>> >>>of about once per 2-3 seconds) with the signal
strength
>> >>>staying up at full. Eventually, the signal dives
to 0
>> >>as
>> >>>well and I'm disconnected. It's almost as if the
MN700
>> >>>is getting some interference thus giving up and
>> >>>saying, "screw it" and shuts down the radio. It is
>> >>>unaccessible at this point for a variable amount of
>> >time
>> >>>up to about 20 seconds. This is happening mostly
>> >during
>> >>>the day. Doesn't happen much in late evenings.
>> >Nothing
>> >>>in the base station log to indicate anything
>> >happening.
>> >>>The Intel Proset utility will increment the "AP did
not
>> >>>transmit" count everytime this occurs. This happens
>> >>>regardless of distance to AP. I have been within 2
>> >feet
>> >>>of it when this happens. All wireless clients are
>> >>>disconnected at the same time. Strangely enough, I
can
>> >>>still access either one of 2 AP's nearby.
>> >>>
>> >>>Configuration:
>> >>>- MN700 is configured in access point only mode
>> >>connected
>> >>>to a Linksys BEFSR41 router. There is another
laptop
>> >>>running win98 with the MN740 adapter and
occasionally,
>> >>my
>> >>>pocket pc. 64 bit WEP is enabled and MN700 is
>> >>configured
>> >>>to run mixed b/g.
>> >>>- Access point is located on a shelf about 4 ft
above
>> >>and
>> >>>15 ft away from where I usually work.
>> >>>- There are 2 other networks in my area that I can
>> >see.
>> >>>Both are running without WEP and are sitting on
>> >channels
>> >>>6 and 11. One of these is an Xmicro wireless router
>> >>>(based on the SSID I get) and the other is unknown
but
>> >>>started up sometime early this year. I have moved
mine
>> >>>to channel 1.
>> >>>- I live in a 4 floor apartment building. I have no
>> >>>2.4Ghz phones, only 2 900Mhz phones.
>> >>>
>> >>>Questions:
>> >>>1. Is what I'm seeing the result of some phone
>> >>>interference or one of those baby monitors? It
almost
>> >>>makes sense when I see the quality bar dive to 0 in
>> >what
>> >>>almost seems like a phone ringing interval and then
>> >>>complete lost of network.
>> >>>2. How does the MN700 handle interference? Does it
>> >>>shutdown completely or has the source of the
>> >>interference
>> >>>completely blanked out the signal?
>> >>>3. Anything I can do to get past this? Some
timeout
>> >>>value I can set somewhere? Get a Linksys or D-
Link? I
>> >>>want to stop short of wallpapering my apartment with
>> >>>tinfoil or getting a huge honking antenna, 500W RF
>> >>>amplifier and cobbling together a giant transmitter
>> >>>beacon?
>> >>>4. Could this be something other than interference?
>> >>>Could power source (no surge protector on power
bar) or
>> >>>something else cause intermittent transmitter
>> >shutdown?
>> >>>It's strange that only my AP gets taken offline by
>> >>>these "black outs".
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Thanks for any help or confirmation of the symptoms
of
>> >>>connection loss I am seeing.
>> >>>.
>> >>>
>> >>.
>> >>
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

I have the same problem, and trust me once I get paid
this week, I will go to the store and get me a Linksys
router. I had one, and mistakenly updated the wrong
firmaware into it and it did not function any longer. So
I went to the store and got me this unreliable MN-700
base station. I paid $99.95 at the store, and the linksys-
B was only $75, but no, me and my dumb expectations that
the MN-700 with is G support will be better than the
Linksys.

I still have the Linksys router, but I can't use it
because it has the wrong firmware, and when I try to
install or reset it with the proper one, I get a wrong
image version.

Anyways, that is my story.

>-----Original Message-----
>sell the POS and get a Linksys
>
>"Cheek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:7f4801c3e969$10d55480$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a problem with my wireless connection
occasionally
>> dropping out on my MN 700.
>
>
>.
>

Don't throw the baby out with the dishrouter!! It is not the router
it is the setup of the client card...in most cases if you disable or
remove the 802.1x protocol in your network settings it will be
resolved.

see this solution from SMC:

Description of problem:
Windows XP SP1 also changes the default behavior of the 802.1x
authentication setting when used on wireless networks. When this
setting was enabled before applying SP1, if no authentication server
was found, the setting was ignored and a persistent connection could
be obtained. Stricter enforcement under SP1 prevents attaching to a
rogue access point. If 802.1x authentication (which must be used with
WEP) is enabled under SP1, if no authentication packet is received
after three minutes, the connection will be dropped. During the
installation of SP1, any settings enabling 802.1x authentication for
wireless connections will be removed. If you find that you lose your
connection every three minutes, authentication may be enabled on a
network that does not have authentication servers. Verify that 802.1x
authentication is turned off if your network has no authentication
server by following these steps:




Solution: (For the SMC card)
Right-click the wireless connection, and then click Properties.
Select the Authentication tab. Make sure that the check box for
authentication is not selected.

Note: DLink, SMC etc all exhibit this problem !!

God luck Bob Rhead

"atari" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<ltFTb.7197$(E-Mail Removed) link.net>...
> sell the POS and get a Linksys
>
> "Cheek" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:7f4801c3e969$10d55480$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a problem with my wireless connection occasionally
> > dropping out on my MN 700.

Guys,

I swear I've tried everything... MAC filtering... no mac
filtering... channel 11... channel 3... Help from
newsgroups... help from MSN support. If I dont' get this
problem solved by the end of the week... it's time to get
a linksys.

Dee Dubya