Wireless by Chinese embassy

ahh wrote:
> I'm proud I got my WPA-PSK finally working

> That means I would probably definately get hacked by international spies or
> something if I don't use the best security.

If you really want the best security you should _not_ run WPA in PSK-mode.

Sander.

The problem with Pre-Shared Keys is that everyone on your WLAN uses the same
key. In this case, I believe that the writer is the only user of the WLAN.
Otherwise, PSK is fine. The PSK is not actually used to encrypt messages as
it was in WEP. The PSK is used to derive message keys. With TKIP enabled,
the message keys are changed constantly, automatically.

Don't forget to change your PSK every once in a while.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Sander" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:P%ltc.387$9n5.187@amstwist00...
> ahh wrote:
> > I'm proud I got my WPA-PSK finally working
>
> > That means I would probably definately get hacked by international spies
or
> > something if I don't use the best security.
>
> If you really want the best security you should _not_ run WPA in PSK-mode.
>
> Sander.
>
>

ahh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> That means I would probably definately get hacked by international spies or
> something if I don't use the best security.

Afraid that you will cause some international incident? maybe even WW3?

Do you really think that anyone has the least bit of interest in tht
scrap of metal what you call a PC?

Don't be such a boring stupid moron and get a real life!

--
Groeten,

Antonio (Voor email, verwijder X)

"AnToNio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> ahh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > That means I would probably definately get hacked by international spies
or
> > something if I don't use the best security.
>
> Afraid that you will cause some international incident? maybe even WW3?
>
> Do you really think that anyone has the least bit of interest in tht
> scrap of metal what you call a PC?
>
> Don't be such a boring stupid moron and get a real life!
>
> --
I found the original post quite amusing and the thread fairly interesting -
don't assume everyone shares your attitude, as you clearly made yourself out
to be the moron IMO.

--
TP

ahh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I'm proud I got my WPA-PSK finally working and was thinking I was being anal
> spending all the time setting the thing up because I'm currently residing in
> the Philippines and most people don't have computers here... let alone
> networks! I only found 1 store here that had wireless G router here. But
> then I got to thinking..... I'm hollering distance from the Chinese embassy!
> That means I would probably definately get hacked by international spies or
> something if I don't use the best security. Maybe I ought to just give it
> up :-) Maybe I could label my SSID "not chinese embassy" or I could just
> play along with it and label my SSID "Top Secret"

How about something really friendly like "Free Tibet" or "Independent
Taiwan"?

Attacking "boring" people is having a life?
Seeking knowledge, as the OP was, seems more fruitful.

"AnToNio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1gegh8n.u7jpnu1sekgy9N%(E-Mail Removed) ...
> ahh <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > That means I would probably definately get hacked by international spies
or
> > something if I don't use the best security.
>
> Afraid that you will cause some international incident? maybe even WW3?
>
> Do you really think that anyone has the least bit of interest in tht
> scrap of metal what you call a PC?
>
> Don't be such a boring stupid moron and get a real life!
>
> --
> Groeten,
>
> Antonio (Voor email, verwijder X)

In article <1gegh8n.u7jpnu1sekgy9N%(E-Mail Removed)>,
AnToNio <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
o you really think that anyone has the least bit of interest in tht
:scrap of metal what you call a PC?

on't be such a boring stupid moron and get a real life!

AnToNio, people really *do* get investigated and spied upon for strange
reasons. I know of someone, a child at the time, who had a file opened
on them by the national police force of their country, on the grounds
that they had attended (as a spectator) a sporting event exhibition at
an embassy. I know people who have had their phones tapped for
political reasons. I know people whom I rarely heard express a
political opinion stronger than "I think we should try harder for
peace", whose internet service was officially declared as one of the
first ones that their country should take over as a potential security
risk in the event of any "national emergency".

I was told, decades ago "off the record" that two different
intelligence agencies in my country had files open on me -- and that's
before I had *done* anything (no protest marches, no petitions signed,
no political activities of any kind): I was just a bright student with
a knack for computers. [The only thing I've been able to figure out is
that they might have been thinking of recruiting me.]
--
Positrons can be described as electrons traveling backwards in time.
Certainly many Usenet arguments about the past become clearer when they
are re-interpreted as uncertainty about the future.
-- Walter Roberson

ahh wrote:

> I'm proud I got my WPA-PSK finally working and was thinking I was being anal
> spending all the time setting the thing up because I'm currently residing in
> the Philippines and most people don't have computers here... let alone
> networks! I only found 1 store here that had wireless G router here. But
> then I got to thinking..... I'm hollering distance from the Chinese embassy!
> That means I would probably definately get hacked by international spies or
> something if I don't use the best security. Maybe I ought to just give it
> up :-) Maybe I could label my SSID "not chinese embassy" or I could just
> play along with it and label my SSID "Top Secret"

Just my thoughts: the tougher you make it to get into, the more likely
someone is to *try* to get in. Unless you're just wanting to fart around
with them, use a very weak encryption so they can look around and decide
you're too boring for them.

It's been my experience that embassies have a vew limited sense of
humor. I was once ordered by a policeman to take my foot off of the
grass in front of an embassy in DC because I was "trespassing on foreign
soil".

A note of clarification.

The WEP private key is not used to encrypt the data payload. It is used to
generate a unique keystream for each data frame, using RC4. The per-frame
uniqueness is supposed to be guaranteed by the fact that WEP transmits a
pseudorandom 24-bit IV with each data frame, which is used to extend the
private key before applying RC4 to get the keystream. The salient flaw is
that the IV is transmitted in the clear. The statistical weakness of some
IVs, combined with the fact that the remainder of the RC4 seed remains fixed
(the private key), allows several effective attacks.

TKIP serves a similar function - varying the key used to encrypt frames -
much more securely and effectively. WPA2 supports AES encryption, which is
far stronger than the RC4 keystream method used in WEP. Even WPA without AES
is much more secure than WEP. The only proviso I have heard is that WPA
pre-shared keys that are too short may be subject to a brute force
dictionary attack. Choose the longest possible pre-shared key, and choose it
randomly

"Ron Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> wrote in message
news:uRmtc.58379$(E-Mail Removed). net...
> The problem with Pre-Shared Keys is that everyone on your WLAN uses the
same
> key. In this case, I believe that the writer is the only user of the
WLAN.
> Otherwise, PSK is fine. The PSK is not actually used to encrypt messages
as
> it was in WEP. The PSK is used to derive message keys. With TKIP
enabled,
> the message keys are changed constantly, automatically.
>
> Don't forget to change your PSK every once in a while.
>
> Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
>
> "Sander" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:P%ltc.387$9n5.187@amstwist00...
> > ahh wrote:
> > > I'm proud I got my WPA-PSK finally working
> >
> > > That means I would probably definately get hacked by international
spies
> or
> > > something if I don't use the best security.
> >
> > If you really want the best security you should _not_ run WPA in
PSK-mode.
> >
> > Sander.
> >
> >
>
>

Walter Roberson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

Seen too many scary movies?


--
Groeten,

Antonio (Voor email, verwijder X)