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Chris Glover
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      08-18-2003, 06:35 AM
I have tried to follow the many posts concerning the difference
between a wireless AP/router (eg Dlink DI624) and wireless AP (eg
Dlink DWL2000). I hope i understand the difference. My question is,
in general can the AP/router be made to function in AP mode only. The
Belkin FSD7230 documents this feature in its manual as a simple
option: P53

"Using the Access Point Mode
Note: This advanced feature should be employed by advanced users only.
The
Router can be configured to work as a wireless network access point.
Using this
mode will defeat the NAT IP sharing feature and DHCP server. In AP
mode, the
Router will need to be configured with an IP address that is in the
same subnet
as the rest of the network that you will bridge to."

ie is it trivial to bypass the NAT and DHCP as described above with
other routers - particularly the DI624.

Cheers Chris.
 
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Tony Hall
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      08-18-2003, 04:58 PM
I would be interested in an answer to this as well. I also would like to
just have an AP in my house, but the difference between APs and AP/routers
are so close I myself do not know what to do. But it would be neat to be
able to turn off the router since I already have a DSL router in my house at
this moment and only need the AP.

hummmm....



"Chris Glover" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have tried to follow the many posts concerning the difference
> between a wireless AP/router (eg Dlink DI624) and wireless AP (eg
> Dlink DWL2000). I hope i understand the difference. My question is,
> in general can the AP/router be made to function in AP mode only. The
> Belkin FSD7230 documents this feature in its manual as a simple
> option: P53
>
> "Using the Access Point Mode,
> Note: This advanced feature should be employed by advanced users only.
> The
> Router can be configured to work as a wireless network access point.
> Using this
> mode will defeat the NAT IP sharing feature and DHCP server. In AP
> mode, the
> Router will need to be configured with an IP address that is in the
> same subnet
> as the rest of the network that you will bridge to."
>
> ie is it trivial to bypass the NAT and DHCP as described above with
> other routers - particularly the DI624.
>
> Cheers Chris.




 
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flame_thrower
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      08-18-2003, 09:14 PM

"Tony Hall" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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: I would be interested in an answer to this as well. I also would like to
: just have an AP in my house, but the difference between APs and AP/routers
: are so close I myself do not know what to do. But it would be neat to be
: able to turn off the router since I already have a DSL router in my house
at
: this moment and only need the AP.
:
: hummmm....
:
:
i don't know but if you just want an access point go here ( i bought from
them a refub that works fine) site isn't coming up but its
www.hawkingtech.com
:
: "Chris Glover" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
: news:(E-Mail Removed) m...
: > I have tried to follow the many posts concerning the difference
: > between a wireless AP/router (eg Dlink DI624) and wireless AP (eg
: > Dlink DWL2000). I hope i understand the difference. My question is,
: > in general can the AP/router be made to function in AP mode only. The
: > Belkin FSD7230 documents this feature in its manual as a simple
: > option: P53
: >
: > "Using the Access Point Mode,
: > Note: This advanced feature should be employed by advanced users only.
: > The
: > Router can be configured to work as a wireless network access point.
: > Using this
: > mode will defeat the NAT IP sharing feature and DHCP server. In AP
: > mode, the
: > Router will need to be configured with an IP address that is in the
: > same subnet
: > as the rest of the network that you will bridge to."
: >
: > ie is it trivial to bypass the NAT and DHCP as described above with
: > other routers - particularly the DI624.
: >
: > Cheers Chris.
:
:
:


 
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Bob
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      08-18-2003, 09:45 PM
"Chris Glover" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> ie is it trivial to bypass the NAT and DHCP as described above with
> other routers - particularly the DI624.


I'm not sure about other routers, but its easy with Linksys:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y24F620A5

Bob


 
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CZ
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      08-19-2003, 03:29 AM
>> My question is, in general can the AP/router be made to function in AP
mode only.

Chris:

I would think they all could.

Think of an AP as a translator device with WiFi on one side and Ethernet
(wired) on the other side (AP's RJ 45 LAN port).
The AP/router contains an interface that is the LAN port of its router that
should generally only be used if called by its IP address, and the AP/router
should have another interface with an IP address that has a RJ 45 WAN port
for the other side of the router.

If no LAN computer (wireless or wired) calls the address of the AP's router
LAN port it will never be used.


My setup:

BG2000 AP/router is behind a Netgear RT 314 router.
I do not use the BG2000's NAT/router features.
My WiFi clients go to the BG2000 (being used as an AP only) which is wired
(via BG2000's LAN port) to a hub then to the Netgear router which connects
to the DSL modem.
The Netgear router provides DHCP server service to the LAN wss (wired and
wireless).





 
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