Wireless antenna and homeplug

I have a workshop in my father's garage and want to use his broadband
connection from it.

His router is the Edimax AR7024Wg, placed upstairs at the front of the
house. I have no problem connecting to it using my laptop anywhere in
the house or garden, but when in the garage, very low signal. Not
surprising as the roof, roller door and side door are made of metal.

My pc in the garage is fitted with a Belkin PCI network card, F5D7000.
Obviously the small antenna is not going to pick up the signal, encased
in the garage, at floor level.

I need an external antenna to connect to this card. All the ones I see
advertised look like they are for the router to boost the signal. Can I
not use one of these just to extend the card's antenna to outside of the
garage. Any suggestions for a particular product which would suit?

Would it be easier (and less hassle) if I use the Devolo Homeplug AV
dLAN 200. I had the Acer 14Mbs homeplug before it stopped working and
that was OK.

Which would be best, a good signal on wireless, or a homeplug.
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Gary Ridgway

Gary Ridgway wrote:

> I have a workshop in my father's garage and want to use his broadband
> connection from it.
>
> His router is the Edimax AR7024Wg, placed upstairs at the front of the
> house. I have no problem connecting to it using my laptop anywhere in
> the house or garden, but when in the garage, very low signal. Not
> surprising as the roof, roller door and side door are made of metal.
>
> My pc in the garage is fitted with a Belkin PCI network card, F5D7000.
> Obviously the small antenna is not going to pick up the signal, encased
> in the garage, at floor level.
>
> I need an external antenna to connect to this card. All the ones I see
> advertised look like they are for the router to boost the signal. Can I
> not use one of these just to extend the card's antenna to outside of the
> garage. Any suggestions for a particular product which would suit?
>
> Would it be easier (and less hassle) if I use the Devolo Homeplug AV
> dLAN 200. I had the Acer 14Mbs homeplug before it stopped working and
> that was OK.
>
> Which would be best, a good signal on wireless, or a homeplug.

Is a wired connection not possible? Cat5 cable can be obtained ready
terminated in any length. This would be the cheapest solution.

Failing that, I've had good success with Homeplug devices.

I would not consider wireless in the situation you describe.

Chris

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In article <gnKTh.44$(E-Mail Removed)>, Chris Whelan
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Gary Ridgway wrote:
>
>> I have a workshop in my father's garage and want to use his broadband
>> connection from it.
>>
>> His router is the Edimax AR7024Wg, placed upstairs at the front of the
>> house. I have no problem connecting to it using my laptop anywhere in
>> the house or garden, but when in the garage, very low signal. Not
>> surprising as the roof, roller door and side door are made of metal.
>>
>> My pc in the garage is fitted with a Belkin PCI network card, F5D7000.
>> Obviously the small antenna is not going to pick up the signal, encased
>> in the garage, at floor level.
>>
>> I need an external antenna to connect to this card. All the ones I see
>> advertised look like they are for the router to boost the signal. Can I
>> not use one of these just to extend the card's antenna to outside of the
>> garage. Any suggestions for a particular product which would suit?
>>
>> Would it be easier (and less hassle) if I use the Devolo Homeplug AV
>> dLAN 200. I had the Acer 14Mbs homeplug before it stopped working and
>> that was OK.
>>
>> Which would be best, a good signal on wireless, or a homeplug.
>
>Is a wired connection not possible? Cat5 cable can be obtained ready
>terminated in any length. This would be the cheapest solution.
>
>Failing that, I've had good success with Homeplug devices.
>
>I would not consider wireless in the situation you describe.
>
>Chris
>
Wired connection always possible, but hard work due to the route
required. Scratting about in the loft, and then running some conduit
outside the property from the loft down to the garage (which father
doesn't like the idea of).

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Gary Ridgway

Gary Ridgway wrote:

> In article <gnKTh.44$(E-Mail Removed)>, Chris Whelan
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>Gary Ridgway wrote:
>>
>>> I have a workshop in my father's garage and want to use his broadband
>>> connection from it.
>>>
>>> His router is the Edimax AR7024Wg, placed upstairs at the front of the
>>> house. I have no problem connecting to it using my laptop anywhere in
>>> the house or garden, but when in the garage, very low signal. Not
>>> surprising as the roof, roller door and side door are made of metal.
>>>
>>> My pc in the garage is fitted with a Belkin PCI network card, F5D7000.
>>> Obviously the small antenna is not going to pick up the signal, encased
>>> in the garage, at floor level.
>>>
>>> I need an external antenna to connect to this card. All the ones I see
>>> advertised look like they are for the router to boost the signal. Can I
>>> not use one of these just to extend the card's antenna to outside of the
>>> garage. Any suggestions for a particular product which would suit?
>>>
>>> Would it be easier (and less hassle) if I use the Devolo Homeplug AV
>>> dLAN 200. I had the Acer 14Mbs homeplug before it stopped working and
>>> that was OK.
>>>
>>> Which would be best, a good signal on wireless, or a homeplug.
>>
>>Is a wired connection not possible? Cat5 cable can be obtained ready
>>terminated in any length. This would be the cheapest solution.
>>
>>Failing that, I've had good success with Homeplug devices.
>>
>>I would not consider wireless in the situation you describe.
>>
>>Chris
>>
> Wired connection always possible, but hard work due to the route
> required. Scratting about in the loft, and then running some conduit
> outside the property from the loft down to the garage (which father
> doesn't like the idea of).
>

You won't need conduit; special Cat5 cable is available for exterior use and
would be advisable for a long term installation. However, normal cable
survives well, even when buried in the ground.

I have a run of normal cable that goes between two houses via the roof. It's
been there for four years, is still working and has suffered no visible
degradation.

WRT appearance, can it be clipped to the wall very close to a drain pipe?

If it's physically possible to do it, that's the method I would use for
sure.

Chris

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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:01:22 GMT, Chris Whelan
<(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>>>
>> Wired connection always possible, but hard work due to the route
>> required. Scratting about in the loft, and then running some conduit
>> outside the property from the loft down to the garage (which father
>> doesn't like the idea of).
>>
>
>You won't need conduit; special Cat5 cable is available for exterior use and
>would be advisable for a long term installation. However, normal cable
>survives well, even when buried in the ground.
>
>I have a run of normal cable that goes between two houses via the roof. It's
>been there for four years, is still working and has suffered no visible
>degradation.
>
>WRT appearance, can it be clipped to the wall very close to a drain pipe?
>
>If it's physically possible to do it, that's the method I would use for
>sure.

But what about the lightning?
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Regards,
Stuart.

Lurch wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:01:22 GMT, Chris Whelan
> <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>
>>>>
>>> Wired connection always possible, but hard work due to the route
>>> required. Scratting about in the loft, and then running some conduit
>>> outside the property from the loft down to the garage (which father
>>> doesn't like the idea of).
>>>
>>
>>You won't need conduit; special Cat5 cable is available for exterior use
>>and would be advisable for a long term installation. However, normal cable
>>survives well, even when buried in the ground.
>>
>>I have a run of normal cable that goes between two houses via the roof.
>>It's been there for four years, is still working and has suffered no
>>visible degradation.
>>
>>WRT appearance, can it be clipped to the wall very close to a drain pipe?
>>
>>If it's physically possible to do it, that's the method I would use for
>>sure.
>
> But what about the lightning?

Indeed; what about it?

Chris

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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:32:39 GMT, Chris Whelan
<(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>Lurch wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:01:22 GMT, Chris Whelan
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>>
>>>>>
>>>> Wired connection always possible, but hard work due to the route
>>>> required. Scratting about in the loft, and then running some conduit
>>>> outside the property from the loft down to the garage (which father
>>>> doesn't like the idea of).
>>>>
>>>
>>>You won't need conduit; special Cat5 cable is available for exterior use
>>>and would be advisable for a long term installation. However, normal cable
>>>survives well, even when buried in the ground.
>>>
>>>I have a run of normal cable that goes between two houses via the roof.
>>>It's been there for four years, is still working and has suffered no
>>>visible degradation.
>>>
>>>WRT appearance, can it be clipped to the wall very close to a drain pipe?
>>>
>>>If it's physically possible to do it, that's the method I would use for
>>>sure.
>>
>> But what about the lightning?
>
>Indeed; what about it?
>
Nothing, but usually someone mentions it on uk.c.h-n when cat5 and the
outdoors are mentioned in one sentence.

Where's that bloke who would understand when you need him!
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Regards,
Stuart.

In article <SzPTh.53$(E-Mail Removed)>, Chris Whelan
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Gary Ridgway wrote:
>
>> In article <gnKTh.44$(E-Mail Removed)>, Chris Whelan
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>>Gary Ridgway wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a workshop in my father's garage and want to use his broadband
>>>> connection from it.
>>>>
>>>> His router is the Edimax AR7024Wg, placed upstairs at the front of the
>>>> house. I have no problem connecting to it using my laptop anywhere in
>>>> the house or garden, but when in the garage, very low signal. Not
>>>> surprising as the roof, roller door and side door are made of metal.
>>>>
>>>> My pc in the garage is fitted with a Belkin PCI network card, F5D7000.
>>>> Obviously the small antenna is not going to pick up the signal, encased
>>>> in the garage, at floor level.
>>>>
>>>> I need an external antenna to connect to this card. All the ones I see
>>>> advertised look like they are for the router to boost the signal. Can I
>>>> not use one of these just to extend the card's antenna to outside of the
>>>> garage. Any suggestions for a particular product which would suit?
>>>>
>>>> Would it be easier (and less hassle) if I use the Devolo Homeplug AV
>>>> dLAN 200. I had the Acer 14Mbs homeplug before it stopped working and
>>>> that was OK.
>>>>
>>>> Which would be best, a good signal on wireless, or a homeplug.
>>>
>>>Is a wired connection not possible? Cat5 cable can be obtained ready
>>>terminated in any length. This would be the cheapest solution.
>>>
>>>Failing that, I've had good success with Homeplug devices.
>>>
>>>I would not consider wireless in the situation you describe.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>> Wired connection always possible, but hard work due to the route
>> required. Scratting about in the loft, and then running some conduit
>> outside the property from the loft down to the garage (which father
>> doesn't like the idea of).
>>
>
>You won't need conduit; special Cat5 cable is available for exterior use and
>would be advisable for a long term installation. However, normal cable
>survives well, even when buried in the ground.
>
>I have a run of normal cable that goes between two houses via the roof. It's
>been there for four years, is still working and has suffered no visible
>degradation.
>
>WRT appearance, can it be clipped to the wall very close to a drain pipe?
>
>If it's physically possible to do it, that's the method I would use for
>sure.
>
>Chris
>

Thanks Chris,
I will look at the routing again. I have always been a fan of the wired
solution, the IT man at work has the RJ45 plugs and tool. Just need
permission off the old man to make a couple of holes!
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Gary Ridgway

Lurch wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:32:39 GMT, Chris Whelan
> <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>
>>Lurch wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:01:22 GMT, Chris Whelan
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Wired connection always possible, but hard work due to the route
>>>>> required. Scratting about in the loft, and then running some conduit
>>>>> outside the property from the loft down to the garage (which father
>>>>> doesn't like the idea of).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You won't need conduit; special Cat5 cable is available for exterior use
>>>>and would be advisable for a long term installation. However, normal
>>>>cable survives well, even when buried in the ground.
>>>>
>>>>I have a run of normal cable that goes between two houses via the roof.
>>>>It's been there for four years, is still working and has suffered no
>>>>visible degradation.
>>>>
>>>>WRT appearance, can it be clipped to the wall very close to a drain
>>>>pipe?
>>>>
>>>>If it's physically possible to do it, that's the method I would use for
>>>>sure.
>>>
>>> But what about the lightning?
>>
>>Indeed; what about it?
>>
> Nothing, but usually someone mentions it on uk.c.h-n when cat5 and the
> outdoors are mentioned in one sentence.
>
> Where's that bloke who would understand when you need him!

:-)

Chris

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In MsgID<(E-Mail Removed)> on Fri, 13 Apr 2007
21:34:54 +0100, in uk.comp.home-networking, 'Lurch' wrote:

>>> But what about the lightning?
>>
>>Indeed; what about it?
>>
>Nothing, but usually someone mentions it on uk.c.h-n when cat5 and the
>outdoors are mentioned in one sentence.
>

I figure that if you can clip it to a metal drainpipe and/or metal
guttering that the risk would be minimal. Personally I'd only worry if
it's hanging free somewhere between the buildings. I suppose you've got
induced current from a nearby strike to consider but I'd be fairly
comfortable doing it that way on my own property.

Others may disagree.

Dave J.
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