Wireless and ICS

I currently have four node home network using thin
ethnet. ADSL connexion via USB modem. Is it possible to
go to wireless (ie change out the NICs) and retain the USB
modem and carry on using ICS, or do I need to feed the
ADSL into a router/access point - which probably means
junking ICS? Have I got this right - or what are the
options.

Thanks

In article <1f0d01c42752$3ff8fba0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Mike Kay"
<mikek-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I currently have four node home network using thin
>ethnet. ADSL connexion via USB modem. Is it possible to
>go to wireless (ie change out the NICs) and retain the USB
>modem and carry on using ICS, or do I need to feed the
>ADSL into a router/access point - which probably means
>junking ICS? Have I got this right - or what are the
>options.
>
>Thanks

Yes, you can do wireless ICS. Wireless networking can do everything
that wired networking can.

It's very hard to find a wireless router that can connect to an ADSL
modem using USB. All the common router models use Ethernet.

You can connect a wireless access point to the existing wired network
to add wireless capability.

You can use a wireless router as a wireless access point by bypassing
its routing capabilities:

1. Connect its LAN port, not its WAN (Internet) port, to the existing
wired network.

2. Disable its built-in DHCP server.

3. Assign its LAN interface an IP address in the existing 192.168.0.x
subnet.
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Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
<stuff>

Could the OP connect a wireless card to his ICS computer and use that?


Modem (USB) ---> ICS PC (USB in, Wireless PCI card out) ---> rest of
household


Rick

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, Rick T
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>In article <1f0d01c42752$3ff8fba0$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Mike Kay" <mikek-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>I currently have four node home network using thin
>>>ethnet. ADSL connexion via USB modem. Is it possible to
>>>go to wireless (ie change out the NICs) and retain the USB
>>>modem and carry on using ICS, or do I need to feed the
>>>ADSL into a router/access point - which probably means
>>>junking ICS? Have I got this right - or what are the
>>>options.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>
>>Yes, you can do wireless ICS. Wireless networking can do everything
>>that wired networking can.
>>
>>It's very hard to find a wireless router that can connect to an ADSL
>>modem using USB. All the common router models use Ethernet.
>>
>>You can connect a wireless access point to the existing wired network
>>to add wireless capability.
>>
>>You can use a wireless router as a wireless access point by bypassing
>>its routing capabilities:
>>
>>1. Connect its LAN port, not its WAN (Internet) port, to the existing
>>wired network.
>>
>>2. Disable its built-in DHCP server.
>>
>>3. Assign its LAN interface an IP address in the existing 192.168.0.x
>>subnet.
>
>Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
><stuff>
>
>Could the OP connect a wireless card to his ICS computer and use that?
>
>
>Modem (USB) ---> ICS PC (USB in, Wireless PCI card out) ---> rest of
>household
>
>
>Rick

I've included the stuff that you snipped out, Rick, so that other
people who read this message will know what you're asking about.

Yes, Mike could connect a wireless card to his ICS host computer, set
up an Ad-Hoc wireless network, and use that to give Internet access to
the rest of the household. However, an Ad-Hoc network can be harder
to set up than an Infrastructure network using a wireless access
point.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
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Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:

> I've included the stuff that you snipped out, Rick, so that other
> people who read this message will know what you're asking about.

thought it would stand alone

>
> Yes, Mike could connect a wireless card to his ICS host computer, set
> up an Ad-Hoc wireless network, and use that to give Internet access to
> the rest of the household. However, an Ad-Hoc network can be harder
> to set up than an Infrastructure network using a wireless access
> point.

Thanks.


Rick

Steve/Rick - thanks for the discussion - Rick's
simplification is the question I was asking (concisely!! -
well done Rick!)

I think I don't understand how the DHCP server that's in
ICS would cope with the router. I'm quite green on
network issues. I can understand how DHCP works on NICs as
you can set the protocol in the PC to accept an assigned
IP.

Are we setting an IP for the router as a network item in
its own right, or just assigning a set of IPs that it
will "let through"?
I think I prefer this - it sounds more robust than the
adhoc - although that's exactly what I've got now - wired-
ad-hoc!

What are the additional difficulties you foresee for
wireless?

Thanks again for the insights.

Regards

M




>-----Original Message-----
>Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
>
>> I've included the stuff that you snipped out, Rick, so
that other
>> people who read this message will know what you're
asking about.
>
>thought it would stand alone
>
>>
>> Yes, Mike could connect a wireless card to his ICS host
computer, set
>> up an Ad-Hoc wireless network, and use that to give
Internet access to
>> the rest of the household. However, an Ad-Hoc network
can be harder
>> to set up than an Infrastructure network using a
wireless access
>> point.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>Rick
>.
>

Mike Kay wrote:

> Steve/Rick - thanks for the discussion - Rick's
> simplification is the question I was asking (concisely!! -
> well done Rick!)
>
> I think I don't understand how the DHCP server that's in
> ICS would cope with the router. I'm quite green on
> network issues. I can understand how DHCP works on NICs as
> you can set the protocol in the PC to accept an assigned
> IP.
>
> Are we setting an IP for the router as a network item in
> its own right, or just assigning a set of IPs that it
> will "let through"?
> I think I prefer this - it sounds more robust than the
> adhoc - although that's exactly what I've got now - wired-
> ad-hoc!
>
> What are the additional difficulties you foresee for
> wireless?
>
> Thanks again for the insights.
>

err, umm, I was actually just passing thru; Steve is the guy that knows
stuff about networking.


Rick