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LeVeau
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      07-19-2003, 09:12 PM
I am helping a friend set up a two rooms in his house with networked PCs. He
wants to use wired Ethernet within the two rooms, and wireless to link them.
He's got an SMC Barricade wireless router hooked up to a cable modem for
Internet access in one room, and will use an 8-port Netgear switch in the
other room to link the PCs there.

What type of wireless device should I connect to the switch that will then
talk to the router? A wireless access point? Or a wireless bridge? I've
looked at both, and both seem to indicate they'd do what I want. What's the
difference?



 
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      07-19-2003, 09:37 PM
LeVeau <leveau1@!nospam!hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am helping a friend set up a two rooms in his house with networked PCs. He
> wants to use wired Ethernet within the two rooms, and wireless to link them.
> He's got an SMC Barricade wireless router hooked up to a cable modem for
> Internet access in one room, and will use an 8-port Netgear switch in the
> other room to link the PCs there.


< http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?sec=Pro...rod=298&site=c >
SMC2671W - EZ Connect 2.4GHz Wireless Ethernet Adapter
Wireless Range Extender $69

It specifically mentions that it extends the range of the SMC7004VWBR.
Don't know anything else about it ;-)


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      07-20-2003, 03:33 AM
I've been considering the Netgear ME101 wireless bridge
(http://www.netgear.com/products/deta...101.asp?view=). If I do this,
will the computers connected to the switch on the Ethernet side of the
bridge be able to see the router on the wireless side to get their IP
addresses, etc? Or, will I need to manually assign IP addresses to the PCs
that are connected to the switch?


"Press Ctrl-Alt-Del Now" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:S_iSa.553970$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Depends on what he is running too. 802.11b (11Mbps, 2.4GHz, oldest) or

802.11g (54Mbps,
> 2.4GHz, newest) or perhaps 802.11a (54Mbps, 5Ghz)
>
> Anyway once you know that you can find the appropriate piece. An access

point will not do
> what you want unless it has other modes besides simply an access point.

An access point
> which is usually called an AP is primarily a listening center for wireless

clients. A
> bridge will perform a function just like its name indicates - connect the

two. Not all
> bridges are the same however and some bridges require both end points to

be bridge devices
> and as such only talk to each other (blocking all other wireless

connections) but they
> seemlessly join to separate lans. I just spent 2 weeks figuring out a

solution to a
> similar problem for myself. Assuming that your friend's network is

802.11b I think the
> best option for your friend is to pick up something like a Linksys WET11.
>
> Since I was starting off from scratch, I went with a 802.11b Linksys

config with a WET11
> Ethernet Bridge and a BEFW11S4 wireless router. On LAN A with my Internet

connection I
> put the wireless router. On LAN B I connected the Ethernet bridge to the

uplink port of
> my switch. Now all PCs are on the same virtual LAN and I can still

connect via other
> wireless devices like a PDA or a laptop with a wireless card. I'm still

having some
> problems with my Linksys WPC11 PCMCIA wireless 802.11b card and it not

wanting to work
> with DHCP with win2k pro. Other than that, it is working very well.
>
> As for your friend, the SMC wireless products use the TI chipsets which

are also used by
> D-Link. Linksys uses a different chipset. Even though they are all

supposed to
> communicate "nicely" with each other, I'd suggest getting a SMC or D-Link

or another TI
> based product for maximum compatibility, the higher 22Mbps speed and the

ability to keep
> using the 256 bit WEP. Sorry I can not help you out much there but my

first guess would
> be to look at the D-Link DWL-900AP+ which is an AP with 5 modes of

operation or the SMC
> SMC2482W. Or you could get the Linksys WET11 which I know works but your

WEP will be 128
> at max and your speed will be 11Mbps max.
>
> www.smc.com
> www.dlink.com
> www.linksys.com
> www.practicallynetworked.com
> www.80211-planet.com/
>
>
> "LeVeau" <leveau1@!NOSPAM!hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:FuiSa.95165$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> > I am helping a friend set up a two rooms in his house with networked

PCs. He
> > wants to use wired Ethernet within the two rooms, and wireless to link

them.
> > He's got an SMC Barricade wireless router hooked up to a cable modem for
> > Internet access in one room, and will use an 8-port Netgear switch in

the
> > other room to link the PCs there.
> >
> > What type of wireless device should I connect to the switch that will

then
> > talk to the router? A wireless access point? Or a wireless bridge? I've
> > looked at both, and both seem to indicate they'd do what I want. What's

the
> > difference?

>
>



 
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      07-20-2003, 04:11 AM
If that device behaves in a similar fashion to the Linksys WET11 than yes,
you should be able to reach a DHCP server on the other side of the wireless
bridge. Just make sure that this Netgear unit will bridge properly with
non-Netgear wireless gear on the other side. Even though they are all
supposed to work together via the 802.11b standard, that is not always the
case and sometimes it will only work well with other equipment from the same
manufacturer. That is why I went with the Linksys for all route to make
sure my WET11 was "happy".

"LeVeau" <leveau1@!NOSPAM!hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e4oSa.73698$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> I've been considering the Netgear ME101 wireless bridge
> (http://www.netgear.com/products/deta...101.asp?view=). If I do this,
> will the computers connected to the switch on the Ethernet side of the
> bridge be able to see the router on the wireless side to get their IP
> addresses, etc? Or, will I need to manually assign IP addresses to the PCs
> that are connected to the switch?
>
>
> "Press Ctrl-Alt-Del Now" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:S_iSa.553970$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Depends on what he is running too. 802.11b (11Mbps, 2.4GHz, oldest) or

> 802.11g (54Mbps,
> > 2.4GHz, newest) or perhaps 802.11a (54Mbps, 5Ghz)
> >
> > Anyway once you know that you can find the appropriate piece. An access

> point will not do
> > what you want unless it has other modes besides simply an access point.

> An access point
> > which is usually called an AP is primarily a listening center for

wireless
> clients. A
> > bridge will perform a function just like its name indicates - connect

the
> two. Not all
> > bridges are the same however and some bridges require both end points to

> be bridge devices
> > and as such only talk to each other (blocking all other wireless

> connections) but they
> > seemlessly join to separate lans. I just spent 2 weeks figuring out a

> solution to a
> > similar problem for myself. Assuming that your friend's network is

> 802.11b I think the
> > best option for your friend is to pick up something like a Linksys

WET11.
> >
> > Since I was starting off from scratch, I went with a 802.11b Linksys

> config with a WET11
> > Ethernet Bridge and a BEFW11S4 wireless router. On LAN A with my

Internet
> connection I
> > put the wireless router. On LAN B I connected the Ethernet bridge to

the
> uplink port of
> > my switch. Now all PCs are on the same virtual LAN and I can still

> connect via other
> > wireless devices like a PDA or a laptop with a wireless card. I'm still

> having some
> > problems with my Linksys WPC11 PCMCIA wireless 802.11b card and it not

> wanting to work
> > with DHCP with win2k pro. Other than that, it is working very well.
> >
> > As for your friend, the SMC wireless products use the TI chipsets which

> are also used by
> > D-Link. Linksys uses a different chipset. Even though they are all

> supposed to
> > communicate "nicely" with each other, I'd suggest getting a SMC or

D-Link
> or another TI
> > based product for maximum compatibility, the higher 22Mbps speed and the

> ability to keep
> > using the 256 bit WEP. Sorry I can not help you out much there but my

> first guess would
> > be to look at the D-Link DWL-900AP+ which is an AP with 5 modes of

> operation or the SMC
> > SMC2482W. Or you could get the Linksys WET11 which I know works but

your
> WEP will be 128
> > at max and your speed will be 11Mbps max.
> >
> > www.smc.com
> > www.dlink.com
> > www.linksys.com
> > www.practicallynetworked.com
> > www.80211-planet.com/
> >
> >
> > "LeVeau" <leveau1@!NOSPAM!hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:FuiSa.95165$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> > > I am helping a friend set up a two rooms in his house with networked

> PCs. He
> > > wants to use wired Ethernet within the two rooms, and wireless to link

> them.
> > > He's got an SMC Barricade wireless router hooked up to a cable modem

for
> > > Internet access in one room, and will use an 8-port Netgear switch in

> the
> > > other room to link the PCs there.
> > >
> > > What type of wireless device should I connect to the switch that will

> then
> > > talk to the router? A wireless access point? Or a wireless bridge?

I've
> > > looked at both, and both seem to indicate they'd do what I want.

What's
> the
> > > difference?

> >
> >

>
>



 
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