Wired/Wireless Network/Internet

I have a working wired network from an ADSL Modem connected to a Network
Hub from which I have the two computers and Printer connected.

I am about to have delivered a new Laptop with WiFi(IntelPro WLAN 3945
802.11a/b/g 54Mbps) and WiFi Access Point (D-Link Airplus G DWL-G700AP).

What is the process of connecting/installing/configuring these items onto my
wired network, after connecting the AP to the network hub?

Help please - John

"JFN" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I have a working wired network from an ADSL Modem connected to a Network
>Hub from which I have the two computers and Printer connected.
>
>I am about to have delivered a new Laptop with WiFi(IntelPro WLAN 3945
>802.11a/b/g 54Mbps) and WiFi Access Point (D-Link Airplus G DWL-G700AP).
>
>What is the process of connecting/installing/configuring these items onto my
>wired network, after connecting the AP to the network hub?

You have a problem (unless you have your terms mixed up).
You state that you have an ADSL modem and a "Network Hub". I'll
assume that your DSL ISP provides you with 2 IP addresses, one for
each computer. However, I'll also guess(tm) that your don't really
have a "network hub" and that it's really an ethernet router. That
could easily be confirmed by looking at the bottom of the unit. You'll
probably find a label with a manufacturers name and model number.
Kindly disclose this information along with the maker and model number
of your ADSL modem, so that your question can be answered with a
minimum of guesswork.

If, by chance, it really is an ethernet router and not a "network
hub", then all you need to do is setup your access point according to
the supplied instruction, being very careful not to duplicate the IP
address of any of the existing devices, configure the wireless,
connect a CAT5 cable between the DWL-G700AP and your ethernet router,
and it's ready to go. However, before attacking the wireless, I
suggest you test and setup your new laptop with a CAT5 ethernet cable,
and leave the wireless setup until it's working and updated.


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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> You have a problem (unless you have your terms mixed up).
> You state that you have an ADSL modem and a "Network Hub". I'll
> assume that your DSL ISP provides you with 2 IP addresses, one for
> each computer. However, I'll also guess(tm) that your don't really
> have a "network hub" and that it's really an ethernet router. That

He might have a telco provided DSL modem that has an embedded DHCP
server for routing.

decaturtxcowboy <nope_none_@nowayspam.com> hath wroth:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> You have a problem (unless you have your terms mixed up).
>> You state that you have an ADSL modem and a "Network Hub". I'll
>> assume that your DSL ISP provides you with 2 IP addresses, one for
>> each computer. However, I'll also guess(tm) that your don't really
>> have a "network hub" and that it's really an ethernet router. That

>He might have a telco provided DSL modem that has an embedded DHCP
>server for routing.

Yep. Y'er probably right. An Efficient/Siemens 4100 would do that.
If that's the case, then the access point could just plug into the
"network hub" with a CAT5 cable as previously described.

Checking the IP address of 82.153.98.68 shows London, England. I have
no clue how they do things over there.



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Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

My setup is as follows:

DSL ISP connection >to Bt Socket >to ZOOM Model 5560 ADSL
Modem/Gateway/Router >to NETGEAR EN 2005 5Port Hub (Uplinkport) >Port1 to
Computer 1 Ethernet port, Port2 to Computer 2 Ethernet port; Computer 1 USB
to Printer.

My new Laptop will have WiFi;

I was hoping to use my new Access point to connect to a port on the Netgear
Hub and therefore retain my existing wired network, but connect to my new
laptop wirelessly through the AP; is this OK.

If not would the alternative be to remove the Netgear Hub and connect the AP
directly to the ADSL MODEM/GATEWAY/ROUTER and fit NEW WiFi Cards to my two
computers (at further expense to me) and connect wirelessly to all three. -
If so what Cards would you advise?, having mentioned in previous post my AP
type and Laptop wireless details.

Is the connection/configuration set up automatic?

Thank You John
















Is the process automatic or is manual ntervention required?

Thanks John


"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "JFN" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a working wired network from an ADSL Modem connected to a Network
>>Hub from which I have the two computers and Printer connected.
>>
>>I am about to have delivered a new Laptop with WiFi(IntelPro WLAN 3945
>>802.11a/b/g 54Mbps) and WiFi Access Point (D-Link Airplus G DWL-G700AP).
>>
>>What is the process of connecting/installing/configuring these items onto
>>my
>>wired network, after connecting the AP to the network hub?
>
> You have a problem (unless you have your terms mixed up).
> You state that you have an ADSL modem and a "Network Hub". I'll
> assume that your DSL ISP provides you with 2 IP addresses, one for
> each computer. However, I'll also guess(tm) that your don't really
> have a "network hub" and that it's really an ethernet router. That
> could easily be confirmed by looking at the bottom of the unit. You'll
> probably find a label with a manufacturers name and model number.
> Kindly disclose this information along with the maker and model number
> of your ADSL modem, so that your question can be answered with a
> minimum of guesswork.
>
> If, by chance, it really is an ethernet router and not a "network
> hub", then all you need to do is setup your access point according to
> the supplied instruction, being very careful not to duplicate the IP
> address of any of the existing devices, configure the wireless,
> connect a CAT5 cable between the DWL-G700AP and your ethernet router,
> and it's ready to go. However, before attacking the wireless, I
> suggest you test and setup your new laptop with a CAT5 ethernet cable,
> and leave the wireless setup until it's working and updated.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Checking the IP address of 82.153.98.68 shows London, England. I have
> no clue how they do things over there.

Seeing as they drive on the left side of the rod, very likely
they use cross-over cables for everything networked.

"JFN" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>DSL ISP connection >to Bt Socket >to ZOOM Model 5560 ADSL
>Modem/Gateway/Router >to NETGEAR EN 2005 5Port Hub (Uplinkport) >Port1 to
>Computer 1 Ethernet port, Port2 to Computer 2 Ethernet port; Computer 1 USB
>to Printer.

Ok. You already have a router inside the Zoom 5560. The hub really
is a hub.

>My new Laptop will have WiFi;
>
>I was hoping to use my new Access point to connect to a port on the Netgear
>Hub and therefore retain my existing wired network, but connect to my new
>laptop wirelessly through the AP; is this OK.

That will work.

>If not would the alternative be to remove the Netgear Hub and connect the AP
>directly to the ADSL MODEM/GATEWAY/ROUTER and fit NEW WiFi Cards to my two
>computers (at further expense to me) and connect wirelessly to all three. -

No problem. Leave the hub connected. You can connect the ethernet
CAT5 cable from the Dlink DWL-G700AP to *EITHER* one of the LAN ports
on the back of the Zoom 5560, or to the Netgear 10baseT EN2005 hub.
The ports are essentially equivalent.

There is one potential problem. At the maximum connection speed of
Wi-Fi at 54Mbits/sec, the wireless is capeable of transfering data at
up to 25Mbits/sec. This is about 3 times faster than what your
Netgear 10baseT hub can handle. You will have a bottleneck, but only
when transfering data between your computers and the laptop (wired or
wireless). It will have no effect on your internet speed as the DSL
is undoubtably slower than 25Mbits/sec. I suggest you replace the 5
port 10baseT hub with an equivalent 10/100baseT ethernet *switch* (not
a dual speed hub).

>If so what Cards would you advise?, having mentioned in previous post my AP
>type and Laptop wireless details.

None. You have everything that's needed.

>Is the connection/configuration set up automatic?
>Is the process automatic or is manual ntervention required?

No. You'll need to read the instructions that comes with the Dlink
DWL-G700AP to setup the wireless part of the network. As I previously
mentioned, first get the laptop working by using a direct CAT5
ethernet connection to the router or hub. Once the laptop is updated
and functional, then install the DWL-G700AP and setup the wireless.

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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Thanks Jeff, you have been very helpful; unfortunately the Zoom 5560 only
has ONE Ethernet port(used to connect to Netgear Hub, but in view of what
you say I can use a port on the Network Hub instead.

I also note your comment about the Netgear 10base T hub; can you suggest a
10/100baseT Ethernet SWITCH alternative, (how does this differ?), and will
my Cat5 cables be OK.
Do you know the equiv. speed of transfer to/from my hard drives (5500 speed;
not 7200), is it less than 25Mbits/sec of wireless?

Again let me say how helpful you have been - thanks!.

Regards John


"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "JFN" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>DSL ISP connection >to Bt Socket >to ZOOM Model 5560 ADSL
>>Modem/Gateway/Router >to NETGEAR EN 2005 5Port Hub (Uplinkport) >Port1 to
>>Computer 1 Ethernet port, Port2 to Computer 2 Ethernet port; Computer 1
>>USB
>>to Printer.
>
> Ok. You already have a router inside the Zoom 5560. The hub really
> is a hub.
>
>>My new Laptop will have WiFi;
>>
>>I was hoping to use my new Access point to connect to a port on the
>>Netgear
>>Hub and therefore retain my existing wired network, but connect to my new
>>laptop wirelessly through the AP; is this OK.
>
> That will work.
>
>>If not would the alternative be to remove the Netgear Hub and connect the
>>AP
>>directly to the ADSL MODEM/GATEWAY/ROUTER and fit NEW WiFi Cards to my two
>>computers (at further expense to me) and connect wirelessly to all
>>three. -
>
> No problem. Leave the hub connected. You can connect the ethernet
> CAT5 cable from the Dlink DWL-G700AP to *EITHER* one of the LAN ports
> on the back of the Zoom 5560, or to the Netgear 10baseT EN2005 hub.
> The ports are essentially equivalent.
>
> There is one potential problem. At the maximum connection speed of
> Wi-Fi at 54Mbits/sec, the wireless is capeable of transfering data at
> up to 25Mbits/sec. This is about 3 times faster than what your
> Netgear 10baseT hub can handle. You will have a bottleneck, but only
> when transfering data between your computers and the laptop (wired or
> wireless). It will have no effect on your internet speed as the DSL
> is undoubtably slower than 25Mbits/sec. I suggest you replace the 5
> port 10baseT hub with an equivalent 10/100baseT ethernet *switch* (not
> a dual speed hub).
>
>>If so what Cards would you advise?, having mentioned in previous post my
>>AP
>>type and Laptop wireless details.
>
> None. You have everything that's needed.
>
>>Is the connection/configuration set up automatic?
>>Is the process automatic or is manual ntervention required?
>
> No. You'll need to read the instructions that comes with the Dlink
> DWL-G700AP to setup the wireless part of the network. As I previously
> mentioned, first get the laptop working by using a direct CAT5
> ethernet connection to the router or hub. Once the laptop is updated
> and functional, then install the DWL-G700AP and setup the wireless.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

A cheap Switch I have seen has a spec for cabling as 100base-TX or 10base-T,
is this OK or with my Cat5 cables is this the same as 10base-T and therefore
would see no change to what I have?

John

"JFN" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:X7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Jeff, you have been very helpful; unfortunately the Zoom 5560 only
> has ONE Ethernet port(used to connect to Netgear Hub, but in view of what
> you say I can use a port on the Network Hub instead.
>
> I also note your comment about the Netgear 10base T hub; can you suggest a
> 10/100baseT Ethernet SWITCH alternative, (how does this differ?), and will
> my Cat5 cables be OK.
> Do you know the equiv. speed of transfer to/from my hard drives (5500
> speed; not 7200), is it less than 25Mbits/sec of wireless?
>
> Again let me say how helpful you have been - thanks!.
>
> Regards John
>
>
> "Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "JFN" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>
>>>DSL ISP connection >to Bt Socket >to ZOOM Model 5560 ADSL
>>>Modem/Gateway/Router >to NETGEAR EN 2005 5Port Hub (Uplinkport) >Port1 to
>>>Computer 1 Ethernet port, Port2 to Computer 2 Ethernet port; Computer 1
>>>USB
>>>to Printer.
>>
>> Ok. You already have a router inside the Zoom 5560. The hub really
>> is a hub.
>>
>>>My new Laptop will have WiFi;
>>>
>>>I was hoping to use my new Access point to connect to a port on the
>>>Netgear
>>>Hub and therefore retain my existing wired network, but connect to my new
>>>laptop wirelessly through the AP; is this OK.
>>
>> That will work.
>>
>>>If not would the alternative be to remove the Netgear Hub and connect the
>>>AP
>>>directly to the ADSL MODEM/GATEWAY/ROUTER and fit NEW WiFi Cards to my
>>>two
>>>computers (at further expense to me) and connect wirelessly to all
>>>three. -
>>
>> No problem. Leave the hub connected. You can connect the ethernet
>> CAT5 cable from the Dlink DWL-G700AP to *EITHER* one of the LAN ports
>> on the back of the Zoom 5560, or to the Netgear 10baseT EN2005 hub.
>> The ports are essentially equivalent.
>>
>> There is one potential problem. At the maximum connection speed of
>> Wi-Fi at 54Mbits/sec, the wireless is capeable of transfering data at
>> up to 25Mbits/sec. This is about 3 times faster than what your
>> Netgear 10baseT hub can handle. You will have a bottleneck, but only
>> when transfering data between your computers and the laptop (wired or
>> wireless). It will have no effect on your internet speed as the DSL
>> is undoubtably slower than 25Mbits/sec. I suggest you replace the 5
>> port 10baseT hub with an equivalent 10/100baseT ethernet *switch* (not
>> a dual speed hub).
>>
>>>If so what Cards would you advise?, having mentioned in previous post my
>>>AP
>>>type and Laptop wireless details.
>>
>> None. You have everything that's needed.
>>
>>>Is the connection/configuration set up automatic?
>>>Is the process automatic or is manual ntervention required?
>>
>> No. You'll need to read the instructions that comes with the Dlink
>> DWL-G700AP to setup the wireless part of the network. As I previously
>> mentioned, first get the laptop working by using a direct CAT5
>> ethernet connection to the router or hub. Once the laptop is updated
>> and functional, then install the DWL-G700AP and setup the wireless.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
>> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
>> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
>

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 18:59:18 -0000, in alt.internet.wireless , "JFN"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>A cheap Switch I have seen has a spec for cabling as 100base-TX or 10base-T,
>is this OK or with my Cat5 cables is this the same as 10base-T and therefore
>would see no change to what I have?

100base-TX is fully compatible with cat5
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