Wired problem

Hi
I'm trying to wire another PC to my two PC wireless setup.

My laptop has a wireless card which is connecting to a router/asdl/access
point the same goes for my second PC upstairs. The laptop also has a 10/100
ethernet network card.

Is it possible to wire a third PC (with 10/100 ethernet card) to my laptop's
ethernet card so I can share files and the internet or even just the
internet?

If so how must I go about it?

I know I can buy a USB wireless network device (for the third PC) but I
would like to try and save some money if possible.

I have wired the laptop network card to the third PC using a Cat5 cable but
both icons on each PC is saying 'network cable unplugged'.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

TIA

George

it must be a crossover cable

mike

"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
> I'm trying to wire another PC to my two PC wireless setup.
>
> My laptop has a wireless card which is connecting to a router/asdl/access
> point the same goes for my second PC upstairs. The laptop also has a
10/100
> ethernet network card.
>
> Is it possible to wire a third PC (with 10/100 ethernet card) to my
laptop's
> ethernet card so I can share files and the internet or even just the
> internet?
>
> If so how must I go about it?
>
> I know I can buy a USB wireless network device (for the third PC) but I
> would like to try and save some money if possible.
>
> I have wired the laptop network card to the third PC using a Cat5 cable
but
> both icons on each PC is saying 'network cable unplugged'.
>
> Any advice greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> George
>
>

Hi Mike
Thanks for the speedy response.
I'll try that.

TIA

George
"mikeFNB" <moc.dlrowltn@FNB7G-ekim> wrote in message
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> it must be a crossover cable
>
> mike
>
> "George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:d0quug$i9m$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>> I'm trying to wire another PC to my two PC wireless setup.
>>
>> My laptop has a wireless card which is connecting to a router/asdl/access
>> point the same goes for my second PC upstairs. The laptop also has a
> 10/100
>> ethernet network card.
>>
>> Is it possible to wire a third PC (with 10/100 ethernet card) to my
> laptop's
>> ethernet card so I can share files and the internet or even just the
>> internet?
>>
>> If so how must I go about it?
>>
>> I know I can buy a USB wireless network device (for the third PC) but I
>> would like to try and save some money if possible.
>>
>> I have wired the laptop network card to the third PC using a Cat5 cable
> but
>> both icons on each PC is saying 'network cable unplugged'.
>>
>> Any advice greatly appreciated.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>
>

"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:d0quug$i9m$(E-Mail Removed)...
> My laptop has a wireless card which is connecting to a router/asdl/access
> point the same goes for my second PC upstairs. The laptop also has a
> 10/100 ethernet network card.
>
> Is it possible to wire a third PC (with 10/100 ethernet card) to my
> laptop's ethernet card so I can share files and the internet or even just
> the internet?

Yes, both. The first step, as mike pointed out, is that you must use a
crossover cable to connect the laptop and third PC.

After that, the easiest thing to do, assuming you are running Windows XP on
the laptop, is to bridge the two (wired and wireless) connections. To do
this, open the Network Connecions window, select both connections,
right-click to bring up the context menu and choose "Bridge connections".

If everything is working, the third PC and the newly-created bridge
interface on the laptop should both be able to pick up IP configuration from
the router's DHCP server. Each machine should be able to access the others,
and the Internet.

There are other ways of doing it, if necessary.

Alex

Hi
I created the bridge connection. I now have a limited connectivity on the
third PC and the laptop LAN card. I'ved no wireless internet (until I remove
the wireless connection from the bridge).
I can view and access files and print one way, from the third PC to the
Laptop.
Is therre a way to enable the bridge to access the internet?

TIA

George
"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:d0quug$i9m$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My laptop has a wireless card which is connecting to a router/asdl/access
>> point the same goes for my second PC upstairs. The laptop also has a
>> 10/100 ethernet network card.
>>
>> Is it possible to wire a third PC (with 10/100 ethernet card) to my
>> laptop's ethernet card so I can share files and the internet or even just
>> the internet?
>
> Yes, both. The first step, as mike pointed out, is that you must use a
> crossover cable to connect the laptop and third PC.
>
> After that, the easiest thing to do, assuming you are running Windows XP
> on
> the laptop, is to bridge the two (wired and wireless) connections. To do
> this, open the Network Connecions window, select both connections,
> right-click to bring up the context menu and choose "Bridge connections".
>
> If everything is working, the third PC and the newly-created bridge
> interface on the laptop should both be able to pick up IP configuration
> from
> the router's DHCP server. Each machine should be able to access the
> others,
> and the Internet.
>
> There are other ways of doing it, if necessary.
>
> Alex
>
>

"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I created the bridge connection. I now have a limited connectivity on the
> third PC and the laptop LAN card. I'ved no wireless internet (until I
> remove the wireless connection from the bridge).
> I can view and access files and print one way, from the third PC to the
> Laptop.
> Is therre a way to enable the bridge to access the internet?

Not as such - if the bridge is working correctly, everything should work.

Can you post the output from "ipconfig /all" on the laptop and third PC?

Instructions if needed: open a command prompt (Start -> Run... "cmd"), then
type "ipconfig /all" (minus the quotes) and press return. Use the mouse to
select the output (scroll the window first if needed) and right-click to
copy the selected text to the clipboard.

Alex

Hi
Here's that info,





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This is the Laptop

C:\Documents and Settings\George>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LAPPIE
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 5:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-90-F5-29-74-D5
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.228.124
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\George>




----------------------------------------------------------------

This is the third PC

C:\Documents and Settings\George>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : none-415cf57271
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100+ PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-27-18-A0-C8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.224.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\George

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TIA

George


"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:d19c3l$260$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I created the bridge connection. I now have a limited connectivity on the
>> third PC and the laptop LAN card. I'ved no wireless internet (until I
>> remove the wireless connection from the bridge).
>> I can view and access files and print one way, from the third PC to the
>> Laptop.
>> Is therre a way to enable the bridge to access the internet?
>
> Not as such - if the bridge is working correctly, everything should work.
>
> Can you post the output from "ipconfig /all" on the laptop and third PC?
>
> Instructions if needed: open a command prompt (Start -> Run... "cmd"),
> then
> type "ipconfig /all" (minus the quotes) and press return. Use the mouse to
> select the output (scroll the window first if needed) and right-click to
> copy the selected text to the clipboard.
>
> Alex
>
>

Here's the info without the bridge on the Laptop, any help
appreciated...........





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C:\Documents and Settings\George>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LAPPIE
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 5:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-90-F5-29-74-D5
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.228.124
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\George>




----------------------------------------------------------------



C:\Documents and Settings\George>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : none-415cf57271
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100+ PCI Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-90-27-18-A0-C8
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.224.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\George


TIA

George
"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:d19c3l$260$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I created the bridge connection. I now have a limited connectivity on the
>> third PC and the laptop LAN card. I'ved no wireless internet (until I
>> remove the wireless connection from the bridge).
>> I can view and access files and print one way, from the third PC to the
>> Laptop.
>> Is therre a way to enable the bridge to access the internet?
>
> Not as such - if the bridge is working correctly, everything should work.
>
> Can you post the output from "ipconfig /all" on the laptop and third PC?
>
> Instructions if needed: open a command prompt (Start -> Run... "cmd"),
> then
> type "ipconfig /all" (minus the quotes) and press return. Use the mouse to
> select the output (scroll the window first if needed) and right-click to
> copy the selected text to the clipboard.
>
> Alex
>
>

"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Here's the info without the bridge on the Laptop, any help
> appreciated...........

Looks suspiciously like there is still a bridge on the laptop.

Regardless, the presence of "Autoconfiguration" in both this and your
previous post mean DHCP is failing. I can't tell why that is, but it does
explain the fact that things aren't working.

Alex

Hi Alex

Would manually configuring the wireless and the wired sort out the problem?
Also my wireless setup has WEP enabled. Would the third PC (wired) need to
provide a WEP password?

TIA

George
"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:d1ap1f$mdf$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Here's the info without the bridge on the Laptop, any help
>> appreciated...........
>
> Looks suspiciously like there is still a bridge on the laptop.
>
> Regardless, the presence of "Autoconfiguration" in both this and your
> previous post mean DHCP is failing. I can't tell why that is, but it does
> explain the fact that things aren't working.
>
> Alex
>
>