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Is there any way to isolate the wired and wireless networks,
so that they both access the Internet, but can't access each other?

A Netgear MR814 Wireless Router (w/4 wired ports) is being used - but
there is also a D-Link DI-704P Wired router and a plan hub available
if needed to do this properly.

I think someone mentioned (on the newsgroup) to wire the two routers
together - and that would cause some issues with some services (due to
two DHCP servers being used)...

Any suggested security resources? I've turned on WEP 128, turned off
SSID, changed the password, change the IP of the router and valid IP
addresses.
Give access only to MAC of the specific card.... and as of now, I turn
off the wireless portion whenever my PCs are on... (those have
firewall software) I would've bought the latest and greatest... but I
don't believe even the security there is good enough yet...

Thanks

(E-Mail Removed) (Daniel Rosenzweig) wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed) om:

> Is there any way to isolate the wired and wireless networks,
> so that they both access the Internet, but can't access each other?
>
> A Netgear MR814 Wireless Router (w/4 wired ports) is being used - but
> there is also a D-Link DI-704P Wired router and a plan hub available
> if needed to do this properly.
>
> I think someone mentioned (on the newsgroup) to wire the two routers
> together - and that would cause some issues with some services (due to
> two DHCP servers being used)...
>
> Any suggested security resources? I've turned on WEP 128, turned off
> SSID, changed the password, change the IP of the router and valid IP
> addresses.
> Give access only to MAC of the specific card.... and as of now, I turn
> off the wireless portion whenever my PCs are on... (those have
> firewall software) I would've bought the latest and greatest... but I
> don't believe even the security there is good enough yet...
>
> Thanks
>

You can most likely do something that is in the link.

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N101236.asp

You could use static IP(s) on one of the routers

You may be able to use two different subnet masks to isolate the two
networks.

You can use VPN to secure the LAN between the routers, because I don't
think you would be accomplishing anything by doing isolation of networks
in a home situation, IMHO.

Duane

Does your ISP give more than (1) ip address, if so you can go from ips
to hub to each router. If not you can go isp, router then to wireless
router and it should work. I have cable isp to linksys then to dlink.
Most of the pc's are off of the dlink and all seem to be working well.

(E-Mail Removed) (Daniel Rosenzweig) wrote:

>Is there any way to isolate the wired and wireless networks,
>so that they both access the Internet, but can't access each other?
>
>A Netgear MR814 Wireless Router (w/4 wired ports) is being used - but
>there is also a D-Link DI-704P Wired router and a plan hub available
>if needed to do this properly.
>
>I think someone mentioned (on the newsgroup) to wire the two routers
>together - and that would cause some issues with some services (due to
>two DHCP servers being used)...
>
>Any suggested security resources? I've turned on WEP 128, turned off
>SSID, changed the password, change the IP of the router and valid IP
>addresses.
>Give access only to MAC of the specific card.... and as of now, I turn
>off the wireless portion whenever my PCs are on... (those have
>firewall software) I would've bought the latest and greatest... but I
>don't believe even the security there is good enough yet...
>
>Thanks

Our adsl and cable providers here give you two ips - so I go:

Cable Modem ---> Hub ----> split to two seperate routers

Also, the speedstream 2624 gives you options to allow the wireless clients
to :

Access the internet only
Access the internet AND other computers on the network.

I was amazed to find this feature in a router i paid $ 25 for on ebay - up
to that point i was looking at a $ 600 sonicwall tzo.

Check the different router specs - i think maybe dlink has the same feature
(but dont quote me on that).


"gene martinez" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Does your ISP give more than (1) ip address, if so you can go from ips
> to hub to each router. If not you can go isp, router then to wireless
> router and it should work. I have cable isp to linksys then to dlink.
> Most of the pc's are off of the dlink and all seem to be working well.
>
> (E-Mail Removed) (Daniel Rosenzweig) wrote:
>
> >Is there any way to isolate the wired and wireless networks,
> >so that they both access the Internet, but can't access each other?
> >
> >A Netgear MR814 Wireless Router (w/4 wired ports) is being used - but
> >there is also a D-Link DI-704P Wired router and a plan hub available
> >if needed to do this properly.
> >
> >I think someone mentioned (on the newsgroup) to wire the two routers
> >together - and that would cause some issues with some services (due to
> >two DHCP servers being used)...
> >
> >Any suggested security resources? I've turned on WEP 128, turned off
> >SSID, changed the password, change the IP of the router and valid IP
> >addresses.
> >Give access only to MAC of the specific card.... and as of now, I turn
> >off the wireless portion whenever my PCs are on... (those have
> >firewall software) I would've bought the latest and greatest... but I
> >don't believe even the security there is good enough yet...
> >
> >Thanks
>

Neither of the the routers don't have an 'uplink' jack...
I gather I can use a crossover cable....

What's special about the 'WAN' connector? Is that also a crossover
jack? Would it be limited to 10mBit?

Thanks

(E-Mail Removed) (gene martinez) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Does your ISP give more than (1) ip address, if so you can go from ips
> to hub to each router. If not you can go isp, router then to wireless
> router and it should work. I have cable isp to linksys then to dlink.
> Most of the pc's are off of the dlink and all seem to be working well.

What are you connecting to the router that you would need a crossover
cable. On some routers they have smart jacks and know what's connected
to the router so you don't need crossover cables.
The WAN side is your connection to the isp (out0side world). It will
get an ip address from your isp. From the wan side then into the
router. The router does it's magic. NAT and DHCP to the lan side (your
network)

(E-Mail Removed) (Daniel Rosenzweig) wrote:

>Neither of the the routers don't have an 'uplink' jack...
>I gather I can use a crossover cable....
>
>What's special about the 'WAN' connector? Is that also a crossover
>jack? Would it be limited to 10mBit?
>
>Thanks
>
>(E-Mail Removed) (gene martinez) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
>> Does your ISP give more than (1) ip address, if so you can go from ips
>> to hub to each router. If not you can go isp, router then to wireless
>> router and it should work. I have cable isp to linksys then to dlink.
>> Most of the pc's are off of the dlink and all seem to be working well.

(E-Mail Removed) (Daniel Rosenzweig) wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed) om:

> Neither of the the routers don't have an 'uplink' jack...
> I gather I can use a crossover cable....
>
> What's special about the 'WAN' connector? Is that also a crossover
> jack? Would it be limited to 10mBit?
>

If you have got to ask these kind of questions, then a consultant coming to
your home may be in order.

Duane

Thanks - I didn't mean to have a double negative in that sentence!
Yep - I gathered what the WAN connection was for normally - just wasn't sure
how it treated that port differently...

(E-Mail Removed) (gene martinez) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> What are you connecting to the router that you would need a crossover
> cable. On some routers they have smart jacks and know what's connected
> to the router so you don't need crossover cables.
> The WAN side is your connection to the isp (out0side world). It will
> get an ip address from your isp. From the wan side then into the
> router. The router does it's magic. NAT and DHCP to the lan side (your
> network)
>
> (E-Mail Removed) (Daniel Rosenzweig) wrote:
>
> >Neither of the the routers don't have an 'uplink' jack...
> >I gather I can use a crossover cable....
> >
> >What's special about the 'WAN' connector? Is that also a crossover
> >jack? Would it be limited to 10mBit?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >(E-Mail Removed) (gene martinez) wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> >> Does your ISP give more than (1) ip address, if so you can go from ips
> >> to hub to each router. If not you can go isp, router then to wireless
> >> router and it should work. I have cable isp to linksys then to dlink.
> >> Most of the pc's are off of the dlink and all seem to be working well.