WINS Setup between 2 remote locations

I need to setup name resolution between 2 of our offices. Each office is
connected by a 2Mb leased line but the networks at each end are small enough
that we have not really needed name resolution. The reason for installing
WINS now is that the line will be replaced by a VPN.

I was going to install 2 servers at each end 1 as a primary and 1 as a
secondary. The replication will be set as push/pull. The primary server at
each site will also replicate with each other. Does this sound like a good
way forward or is there a better way.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance

Quoted from http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/wins1.htm

If you have two or more WINS servers in your network and would like to replicate WINS database, it is recommended each WINS server points to itself as Primary and another WINS server as Secondary WINS in the TCP/IP configuration.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"MarkSJ" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:F2D08298-1824-4F41-A8B8-(E-Mail Removed)...
I need to setup name resolution between 2 of our offices. Each office is
connected by a 2Mb leased line but the networks at each end are small enough
that we have not really needed name resolution. The reason for installing
WINS now is that the line will be replaced by a VPN.

I was going to install 2 servers at each end 1 as a primary and 1 as a
secondary. The replication will be set as push/pull. The primary server at
each site will also replicate with each other. Does this sound like a good
way forward or is there a better way.

Any advice would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance

In news:ukig%(E-Mail Removed),
Robert L [MVP - Networking] <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented
on below:
> Quoted from http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/wins1.htm
>
> If you have two or more WINS servers in your network and would like
> to replicate WINS database, it is recommended each WINS server points
> to itself as Primary and another WINS server as Secondary WINS in the
> TCP/IP configuration.
>

Hi Bob,

I hope things are going well!

I like to point out that according to Microsoft, a WINS server must ONLY
point to itself in it's IP properties due to ownership or records (for that
specific server), registration problems and other reasons. If another entry
is in there, and the WINS services on teh machine is down, then it will try
to register into the other one, and the ownership of it's own database may
be misconstrued to belong to the other. TO avoid these sorts of problems,
only point to itself as Primary only, and leave the others blank. I remember
one Microsoft engineer years ago told me (forgot who he is) that one best
practice not really publicized is to point to itself twice.

Here's the link. I double checked the review date on it, and it was reviewed
at the beginning of this month, so I guess they're sticking with their
assessment and statement.

Setting Primary and Secondary WINS Server Options (150737) [Both WINS
entries should point to itself]:
http://support.microsoft.com/support...s/150/7/37.ASP

I hope that helps.


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Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

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Hi Ace,

Thank you for the link and will review it.

I posted a question in private group and wish you came to help me. It take a while. I finally fixed it. The subject is two same print server name in the Doman. Talk to you later.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Ace Fekay [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
In news:ukig%(E-Mail Removed),
Robert L [MVP - Networking] <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented
on below:
> Quoted from http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/wins1.htm
>
> If you have two or more WINS servers in your network and would like
> to replicate WINS database, it is recommended each WINS server points
> to itself as Primary and another WINS server as Secondary WINS in the
> TCP/IP configuration.
>

Hi Bob,

I hope things are going well!

I like to point out that according to Microsoft, a WINS server must ONLY
point to itself in it's IP properties due to ownership or records (for that
specific server), registration problems and other reasons. If another entry
is in there, and the WINS services on teh machine is down, then it will try
to register into the other one, and the ownership of it's own database may
be misconstrued to belong to the other. TO avoid these sorts of problems,
only point to itself as Primary only, and leave the others blank. I remember
one Microsoft engineer years ago told me (forgot who he is) that one best
practice not really publicized is to point to itself twice.

Here's the link. I double checked the review date on it, and it was reviewed
at the beginning of this month, so I guess they're sticking with their
assessment and statement.

Setting Primary and Secondary WINS Server Options (150737) [Both WINS
entries should point to itself]:
http://support.microsoft.com/support...s/150/7/37.ASP

I hope that helps.


--
Ace
Innovative IT Concepts, Inc (IITCI)
Willow Grove, PA

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

Having difficulty reading or finding responses to your post?
Instead of the website you're using, I suggest to use OEx (Outlook Express
or any other newsreader), and configure a news account, pointing to
news.microsoft.com. This is a direct link to the Microsoft Public
Newsgroups. It is FREE and requires NO ISP's Usenet account. OEx allows you
to easily find, track threads, cross-post, sort by date, poster's name,
watched threads or subject.
It's easy:

How to Configure OEx for Internet News
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=171164

Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
Assimilation Imminent. Resistance is Futile
"Very funny Scotty. Now, beam down my clothes."

The only constant in life is change...

Thanks for the comments so far, I shall make sure that all servers point to
itself. Does the architecture of the whole setup sound ok?

Mark

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

> Hi Ace,
>
> Thank you for the link and will review it.
>
> I posted a question in private group and wish you came to help me. It take a while. I finally fixed it. The subject is two same print server name in the Doman. Talk to you later.
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "Ace Fekay [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> In news:ukig%(E-Mail Removed),
> Robert L [MVP - Networking] <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented
> on below:
> > Quoted from http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/wins1.htm
> >
> > If you have two or more WINS servers in your network and would like
> > to replicate WINS database, it is recommended each WINS server points
> > to itself as Primary and another WINS server as Secondary WINS in the
> > TCP/IP configuration.
> >
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I hope things are going well!
>
> I like to point out that according to Microsoft, a WINS server must ONLY
> point to itself in it's IP properties due to ownership or records (for that
> specific server), registration problems and other reasons. If another entry
> is in there, and the WINS services on teh machine is down, then it will try
> to register into the other one, and the ownership of it's own database may
> be misconstrued to belong to the other. TO avoid these sorts of problems,
> only point to itself as Primary only, and leave the others blank. I remember
> one Microsoft engineer years ago told me (forgot who he is) that one best
> practice not really publicized is to point to itself twice.
>
> Here's the link. I double checked the review date on it, and it was reviewed
> at the beginning of this month, so I guess they're sticking with their
> assessment and statement.
>
> Setting Primary and Secondary WINS Server Options (150737) [Both WINS
> entries should point to itself]:
> http://support.microsoft.com/support...s/150/7/37.ASP
>
> I hope that helps.
>
>
> --
> Ace
> Innovative IT Concepts, Inc (IITCI)
> Willow Grove, PA
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> Having difficulty reading or finding responses to your post?
> Instead of the website you're using, I suggest to use OEx (Outlook Express
> or any other newsreader), and configure a news account, pointing to
> news.microsoft.com. This is a direct link to the Microsoft Public
> Newsgroups. It is FREE and requires NO ISP's Usenet account. OEx allows you
> to easily find, track threads, cross-post, sort by date, poster's name,
> watched threads or subject.
> It's easy:
>
> How to Configure OEx for Internet News
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=171164
>
> Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
> Assimilation Imminent. Resistance is Futile
> "Very funny Scotty. Now, beam down my clothes."
>
> The only constant in life is change..

In news88380FF-50F3-4AA1-A226-(E-Mail Removed),
MarkSJ <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented on
below:
> Thanks for the comments so far, I shall make sure that all servers
> point to itself. Does the architecture of the whole setup sound ok?
>
> Mark

Sorry for so late getting back to you. Yes, the config sounds ok.

Ace

In news:%(E-Mail Removed),
Robert L [MVP - Networking] <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented
on below:
> Hi Ace,
>
> Thank you for the link and will review it.
>
> I posted a question in private group and wish you came to help me. It
> take a while. I finally fixed it. The subject is two same print
> server name in the Doman. Talk to you later.

Sorry, Bob, I haven't been in the private MVP discussions in awhile. I hope
those guys were able to help you out.

Ace