Windoze 98, 98SE, and ME are now officially dead

Time to celebrate:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/gp/lifean18
Windoze 98, 98SE, and ME are now officially dead and unsupported. No
more security updates. The worm writers should now have a field day.
One year more for online knowledgebase support and then that goes
away.

I think the Nordic methods of funeral rites might be appropriate.
Place all the old W98 and ME documentation and CD's in a boat, set
fire to it, and watch it sail off into the sunset. (I saw that in an
old movie somewhere). I plan to do it before Microsoft again changes
its mind on supporting the older OS's because its customers might feel
abandoned.

Yeah, I know it's off topic, but I just couldn't resist.

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No big deal. No security updates for Windows XP either unless you will
allow Microsoft to install WGA spyware.

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Time to celebrate:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/gp/lifean18
> Windoze 98, 98SE, and ME are now officially dead and unsupported. No
> more security updates. The worm writers should now have a field day.
> One year more for online knowledgebase support and then that goes
> away.
>
> I think the Nordic methods of funeral rites might be appropriate.
> Place all the old W98 and ME documentation and CD's in a boat, set
> fire to it, and watch it sail off into the sunset. (I saw that in an
> old movie somewhere). I plan to do it before Microsoft again changes
> its mind on supporting the older OS's because its customers might feel
> abandoned.
>
> Yeah, I know it's off topic, but I just couldn't resist.
>
>

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:11:22 -0500, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in <UWatg.8287$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>No big deal. No security updates for Windows XP either unless you will
>allow Microsoft to install WGA spyware.

"Critical" updates are available even without Windows Genuine
disAdvantage (at least for now).

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> Time to celebrate:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/gp/lifean18
>> Windoze 98, 98SE, and ME are now officially dead and unsupported. No
>> more security updates. The worm writers should now have a field day.
>> One year more for online knowledgebase support and then that goes
>> away.

I frankly doubt there will be much real change -- there hasn't been much
in the way of updates for those systems for quite some time, and perhaps
this will motivate more people to upgrade. I don't blame Microsoft --
good riddance.

My bigger concern is that Vista looks to set a new standard of
bloatware, which I fear will discourage needed security upgrades in the
longer term. [sigh]

>> I think the Nordic methods of funeral rites might be appropriate.
>> Place all the old W98 and ME documentation and CD's in a boat, set
>> fire to it, and watch it sail off into the sunset. (I saw that in an
>> old movie somewhere). I plan to do it before Microsoft again changes
>> its mind on supporting the older OS's because its customers might feel
>> abandoned.
>>
>> Yeah, I know it's off topic, but I just couldn't resist.

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John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:11:22 -0500, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> in <UWatg.8287$(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>
>> No big deal. No security updates for Windows XP either unless you will
>> allow Microsoft to install WGA spyware.
>>
>
> "Critical" updates are available even without Windows Genuine
> disAdvantage (at least for now).
>
How? When I go to the update site, all I get is a requirement to install
WGA. I presume other options will become available after I agree to that
installation.
>
>> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>>> Time to celebrate:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/gp/lifean18
>>> Windoze 98, 98SE, and ME are now officially dead and unsupported. No
>>> more security updates. The worm writers should now have a field day.
>>> One year more for online knowledgebase support and then that goes
>>> away.
>>>
>
> I frankly doubt there will be much real change -- there hasn't been much
> in the way of updates for those systems for quite some time, and perhaps
> this will motivate more people to upgrade. I don't blame Microsoft --
> good riddance.
>
> My bigger concern is that Vista looks to set a new standard of
> bloatware, which I fear will discourage needed security upgrades in the
> longer term. [sigh]
>
>
>>> I think the Nordic methods of funeral rites might be appropriate.
>>> Place all the old W98 and ME documentation and CD's in a boat, set
>>> fire to it, and watch it sail off into the sunset. (I saw that in an
>>> old movie somewhere). I plan to do it before Microsoft again changes
>>> its mind on supporting the older OS's because its customers might feel
>>> abandoned.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I know it's off topic, but I just couldn't resist.
>>>
>
>

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:31:57 -0500, Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in <s6ctg.45750$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>John Navas wrote:

>> "Critical" updates are available even without Windows Genuine
>> disAdvantage (at least for now).

>How? ...

A number of ways, including <http://softwarepatch.com/windows/>

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Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:s6ctg.45750$(E-Mail Removed):

>> "Critical" updates are available even without Windows Genuine
>> disAdvantage (at least for now).
>>
> How? When I go to the update site, all I get is a requirement to
> install WGA.

Through Automatic Updates.

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow wrote:
> Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:s6ctg.45750$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>
>>> "Critical" updates are available even without Windows Genuine
>>> disAdvantage (at least for now).
>>>
>>>
>> How? When I go to the update site, all I get is a requirement to
>> install WGA.
>>
>
> Through Automatic Updates.
>
Automatic updates automatically installs WGA.

Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:Y%ftg.8359$IF2.5675
@bignews7.bellsouth.net:

> Frazer Jolly Goodfellow wrote:
>> Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:s6ctg.45750$(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>
>>>> "Critical" updates are available even without Windows Genuine
>>>> disAdvantage (at least for now).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How? When I go to the update site, all I get is a requirement to
>>> install WGA.
>>>
>>
>> Through Automatic Updates.
>>
> Automatic updates automatically installs WGA.
>

....and critical updates even if you have a Jolly Roger copy XP.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:58:06 -0500, in alt.internet.wireless , Jerry
Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Frazer Jolly Goodfellow wrote:
>> Jerry Park <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:s6ctg.45750$(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>
>>>> "Critical" updates are available even without Windows Genuine
>>>> disAdvantage (at least for now).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How? When I go to the update site, all I get is a requirement to
>>> install WGA.
>>>
>>
>> Through Automatic Updates.
>>
>Automatic updates automatically installs WGA.

You can set Automatic Updates to download but not install the updates.
Then you get to pick the ones you want.

Of course, this isn't the default behaviour.
--
Mark McIntyre

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, in the Usenet newsgroup alt.internet.wireless, in article
<(E-Mail Removed)>, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

>Time to celebrate:

I'll believe it when I don't see any new malware targeting it.

>Windoze 98, 98SE, and ME are now officially dead and unsupported.

I can hear the Munchkins dancing about and singing "Ding Dong, the witch
is dead"

>Place all the old W98 and ME documentation and CD's in a boat, set
>fire to it, and watch it sail off into the sunset.

Doncha need a toxic waste disposal permit for that? I don't know what
the Coast Guard would say about it either.

>(I saw that in an old movie somewhere).

Kirk Douglas was in it I think.

Old guy