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Apollyon
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      06-02-2004, 04:55 AM
I have two networks, both of them wired, one external one internal. I set up
the network bridge as instructed by the MSDN entry and the MSKB entry and
when I do so, I lose connectivity to the internal network.

My two connections are as follows
LAC
IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway xxx.xxx.14.254

The other is
LAC2
IP: 192.168.0.1
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.1

Then after I bridge them it's
Network Bridge
IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway xxx.xxx.14.254

My confusion I think is how to set up the internal PC so that it sees my
Win2003 server ...

Basically I set up the IP config as follows.
before network bridge
IP: 192.168.0.2
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.1

after network bridge
IP: 192.168.0.2
mask 255.255.255.0
gateway xxx.xxx.14.120

I've never set this up before, so I'm not exactly certain what I'm doing
wrong, or what concept I'm missing, but when I create that network bridge, I
can see the external network just fine, but not the internal one.

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      06-02-2004, 05:21 AM
Okay, I figured out that I'm not supposed to bridge an internal with the
external network.

Lemme tell you what I'm trying to accomplish then.

I want this internal network to be able to see computers on the external
network and vice versa.

However, I don't want the internal network to be able to see the Internet.

Right now, the 'external' network is on the same gateway as my 2003 Server,
which is also connected to a hub that's connected to the Internal network.

How can I get the Internal to see the external computers if not through
Network Bridging or ICS?

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"Apollyon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have two networks, both of them wired, one external one internal. I set

up
> the network bridge as instructed by the MSDN entry and the MSKB entry and
> when I do so, I lose connectivity to the internal network.
>
> My two connections are as follows
> LAC
> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
> mask 255.255.255.0
> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
>
> The other is
> LAC2
> IP: 192.168.0.1
> mask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.0.1
>
> Then after I bridge them it's
> Network Bridge
> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
> mask 255.255.255.0
> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
>
> My confusion I think is how to set up the internal PC so that it sees my
> Win2003 server ...
>
> Basically I set up the IP config as follows.
> before network bridge
> IP: 192.168.0.2
> mask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.0.1
>
> after network bridge
> IP: 192.168.0.2
> mask 255.255.255.0
> gateway xxx.xxx.14.120
>
> I've never set this up before, so I'm not exactly certain what I'm doing
> wrong, or what concept I'm missing, but when I create that network bridge,

I
> can see the external network just fine, but not the internal one.
>
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      06-02-2004, 05:43 AM
How many computers do you have on this "external network". If it's only a
few, then I would put second NIC card on all of those computers and
connect those to the internal network.



On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 23:21:34 -0600, Apollyon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Okay, I figured out that I'm not supposed to bridge an internal with the
> external network.
>
> Lemme tell you what I'm trying to accomplish then.
>
> I want this internal network to be able to see computers on the external
> network and vice versa.
>
> However, I don't want the internal network to be able to see the
> Internet.
>
> Right now, the 'external' network is on the same gateway as my 2003
> Server,
> which is also connected to a hub that's connected to the Internal
> network.
>
> How can I get the Internal to see the external computers if not through
> Network Bridging or ICS?
>
> --
> Apollyon
>
> "Apollyon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have two networks, both of them wired, one external one internal. I
>> set

> up
>> the network bridge as instructed by the MSDN entry and the MSKB entry
>> and
>> when I do so, I lose connectivity to the internal network.
>>
>> My two connections are as follows
>> LAC
>> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
>> mask 255.255.255.0
>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
>>
>> The other is
>> LAC2
>> IP: 192.168.0.1
>> mask 255.255.255.0
>> gateway 192.168.0.1
>>
>> Then after I bridge them it's
>> Network Bridge
>> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
>> mask 255.255.255.0
>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
>>
>> My confusion I think is how to set up the internal PC so that it sees my
>> Win2003 server ...
>>
>> Basically I set up the IP config as follows.
>> before network bridge
>> IP: 192.168.0.2
>> mask 255.255.255.0
>> gateway 192.168.0.1
>>
>> after network bridge
>> IP: 192.168.0.2
>> mask 255.255.255.0
>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.120
>>
>> I've never set this up before, so I'm not exactly certain what I'm doing
>> wrong, or what concept I'm missing, but when I create that network
>> bridge,

> I
>> can see the external network just fine, but not the internal one.
>>
>> --
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>>
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      06-02-2004, 06:05 AM
I'm afraid it's too many for that ... More over, they're in different
buildings. My situation is rather strange I'm afraid ... I'm trying to
work with an already established network, and I'm being somewhat
forced to obey certain rules.

Oddly, when I tried this experimentally with Windows 2000 Advance
Server, merely adding both computers from the different networks to
the domain allowed them to see each other. (Unfortunately, the dept
I'm in had no licenses for W2K Advance Server and decided to purchase
a Win2003 Std license, so that didn't work.) I was hoping with 2003 it
would be that simple as well.

Thanks

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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:43:31 -0700, pcmaster <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>How many computers do you have on this "external network". If it's only a
>few, then I would put second NIC card on all of those computers and
>connect those to the internal network.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 23:21:34 -0600, Apollyon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I figured out that I'm not supposed to bridge an internal with the
>> external network.
>>
>> Lemme tell you what I'm trying to accomplish then.
>>
>> I want this internal network to be able to see computers on the external
>> network and vice versa.
>>
>> However, I don't want the internal network to be able to see the
>> Internet.
>>
>> Right now, the 'external' network is on the same gateway as my 2003
>> Server,
>> which is also connected to a hub that's connected to the Internal
>> network.
>>
>> How can I get the Internal to see the external computers if not through
>> Network Bridging or ICS?
>>
>> --
>> Apollyon
>>
>> "Apollyon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I have two networks, both of them wired, one external one internal. I
>>> set

>> up
>>> the network bridge as instructed by the MSDN entry and the MSKB entry
>>> and
>>> when I do so, I lose connectivity to the internal network.
>>>
>>> My two connections are as follows
>>> LAC
>>> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
>>> mask 255.255.255.0
>>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
>>>
>>> The other is
>>> LAC2
>>> IP: 192.168.0.1
>>> mask 255.255.255.0
>>> gateway 192.168.0.1
>>>
>>> Then after I bridge them it's
>>> Network Bridge
>>> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
>>> mask 255.255.255.0
>>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
>>>
>>> My confusion I think is how to set up the internal PC so that it sees my
>>> Win2003 server ...
>>>
>>> Basically I set up the IP config as follows.
>>> before network bridge
>>> IP: 192.168.0.2
>>> mask 255.255.255.0
>>> gateway 192.168.0.1
>>>
>>> after network bridge
>>> IP: 192.168.0.2
>>> mask 255.255.255.0
>>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.120
>>>
>>> I've never set this up before, so I'm not exactly certain what I'm doing
>>> wrong, or what concept I'm missing, but when I create that network
>>> bridge,

>> I
>>> can see the external network just fine, but not the internal one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Apollyon
>>>
>>>
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      06-02-2004, 07:38 AM
It's obvious this isn't my real issue, I'm going to start a different thread
which more succintly describes what I'm trying to do.

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news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm afraid it's too many for that ... More over, they're in different
> buildings. My situation is rather strange I'm afraid ... I'm trying to
> work with an already established network, and I'm being somewhat
> forced to obey certain rules.
>
> Oddly, when I tried this experimentally with Windows 2000 Advance
> Server, merely adding both computers from the different networks to
> the domain allowed them to see each other. (Unfortunately, the dept
> I'm in had no licenses for W2K Advance Server and decided to purchase
> a Win2003 Std license, so that didn't work.) I was hoping with 2003 it
> would be that simple as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Apollyon
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:43:31 -0700, pcmaster <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >How many computers do you have on this "external network". If it's only

a
> >few, then I would put second NIC card on all of those computers and
> >connect those to the internal network.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 23:21:34 -0600, Apollyon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, I figured out that I'm not supposed to bridge an internal with

the
> >> external network.
> >>
> >> Lemme tell you what I'm trying to accomplish then.
> >>
> >> I want this internal network to be able to see computers on the

external
> >> network and vice versa.
> >>
> >> However, I don't want the internal network to be able to see the
> >> Internet.
> >>
> >> Right now, the 'external' network is on the same gateway as my 2003
> >> Server,
> >> which is also connected to a hub that's connected to the Internal
> >> network.
> >>
> >> How can I get the Internal to see the external computers if not through
> >> Network Bridging or ICS?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Apollyon
> >>
> >> "Apollyon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> I have two networks, both of them wired, one external one internal. I
> >>> set
> >> up
> >>> the network bridge as instructed by the MSDN entry and the MSKB entry
> >>> and
> >>> when I do so, I lose connectivity to the internal network.
> >>>
> >>> My two connections are as follows
> >>> LAC
> >>> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
> >>> mask 255.255.255.0
> >>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
> >>>
> >>> The other is
> >>> LAC2
> >>> IP: 192.168.0.1
> >>> mask 255.255.255.0
> >>> gateway 192.168.0.1
> >>>
> >>> Then after I bridge them it's
> >>> Network Bridge
> >>> IP: xxx.xxx.14.120
> >>> mask 255.255.255.0
> >>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.254
> >>>
> >>> My confusion I think is how to set up the internal PC so that it sees

my
> >>> Win2003 server ...
> >>>
> >>> Basically I set up the IP config as follows.
> >>> before network bridge
> >>> IP: 192.168.0.2
> >>> mask 255.255.255.0
> >>> gateway 192.168.0.1
> >>>
> >>> after network bridge
> >>> IP: 192.168.0.2
> >>> mask 255.255.255.0
> >>> gateway xxx.xxx.14.120
> >>>
> >>> I've never set this up before, so I'm not exactly certain what I'm

doing
> >>> wrong, or what concept I'm missing, but when I create that network
> >>> bridge,
> >> I
> >>> can see the external network just fine, but not the internal one.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Apollyon
> >>>
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