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Pikk
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      11-24-2004, 02:51 PM
I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and use
this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us have
laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of which
worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or others try
to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're getting
the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the logon
request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an XP box.
Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys Broadband
Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well as other
brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also worthy of
noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this of course
works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this and
still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this. Strangely
enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my machines
but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.

Am I missing something??

Please, need help!

TIA,
Pikk


 
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Robert L [MS-MVP]
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      11-24-2004, 04:33 PM
can you ping the DNS server by ip? if yes, can you ping it by name? What do
you get if using nslookup?

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"Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and use
> this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us have
> laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of which
> worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or others
> try
> to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're getting
> the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the logon
> request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an XP
> box.
> Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys Broadband
> Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well as
> other
> brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also worthy of
> noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this of
> course
> works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this and
> still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this. Strangely
> enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my
> machines
> but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
>
> Am I missing something??
>
> Please, need help!
>
> TIA,
> Pikk
>
>



 
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Bill Grant
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      11-24-2004, 11:28 PM
If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is connected to
an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you see is
caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the location of
the login server.

Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set up a
different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There are also
third party software solutions such as netswitcher www.netswitcher.com

"Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and use
> this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us have
> laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of which
> worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or others
> try
> to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're getting
> the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the logon
> request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an XP
> box.
> Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys Broadband
> Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well as
> other
> brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also worthy of
> noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this of
> course
> works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this and
> still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this. Strangely
> enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my
> machines
> but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
>
> Am I missing something??
>
> Please, need help!
>
> TIA,
> Pikk
>
>



 
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Bill Grant
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      11-24-2004, 11:44 PM
If you are running XP, you could also look at the alternate config option
on your NIC.

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is connected
> to an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you see
> is caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the location
> of the login server.
>
> Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set up a
> different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There are also
> third party software solutions such as netswitcher www.netswitcher.com
>
> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and use
>> this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us have
>> laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of which
>> worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or others
>> try
>> to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're getting
>> the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the logon
>> request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an XP
>> box.
>> Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys Broadband
>> Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well as
>> other
>> brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also worthy
>> of
>> noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this of
>> course
>> works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this and
>> still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this. Strangely
>> enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my
>> machines
>> but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
>>
>> Am I missing something??
>>
>> Please, need help!
>>
>> TIA,
>> Pikk
>>
>>

>
>



 
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Pikk
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      11-25-2004, 12:37 PM
Bill

Thanks for the reply. I have to admit...I'm very new to DNS and Win2K3
so bear with me. This email may get a little long but I really need helpt o
fix this. My boss is threatening to hire an outside consutant for this now.
It appears that his wireless access at the airport fails now too.
Anyway...following is a breakdown of what my configuration is and whatI've
tried. I hope this is not too long.

Basically...what I said in my first email, stands. Last night I tried a new
HW profile to no avail. Same logon server error. I've also tried netswitcher
and this failed also. As well, I created a new lmhosts file and this...of
course, didn't work either. It appears to me that maybe I'm missing
something on my server. Or maybe our machine names screw it up. If I could
at least get it working when logged into the VPN...that'd be fine. But even
this fails to allow us to browse our home and/or "outside wireless" networks
although, access to our server and exchange mail works.

Here's my configuration.

Laptop w/ Win2K Pro. SP3 (all remote users...same config)
Machine connects to a Win2K3 Server that runs DNS and DHCP, at the office.
Machine names are "laptop.hq.mydomain.com"
IP config is standard...use DHCP and I add the Win2K3 server's IP for DNS
(which I think I need to change)
lmhosts file used for remote access to certian servers...mainly the Exchange
box.
My new lmhosts (I created last night for testing), looks like this
....
205.207.240.129 srv2k3
205.207.240.129 "srv2k3 \0x1b" #PRE
205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:srv2k3 #DII DC
....

My old lmhosts looks like this.
....
205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:server
205.207.240.179 unity #PRE #DOM server
205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE
205.207.240.157 wdemo
....
nslookup returns this when I run it at work. ???
DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
*** Can't find server name for address 205.207.240.129: Timed out
*** Default servers are not available
Default Server: UnKnown
Address: 205.207.240.129

Anyway...that's all for now. Again, sorry for the huge reply.

Thanks Tons!!

P'


"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is connected

to
> an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you see is
> caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the location of
> the login server.
>
> Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set up a
> different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There are also
> third party software solutions such as netswitcher www.netswitcher.com
>
> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and use
> > this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us have
> > laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of

which
> > worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or others
> > try
> > to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're

getting
> > the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the logon
> > request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an XP
> > box.
> > Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys

Broadband
> > Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well as
> > other
> > brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also worthy

of
> > noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this of
> > course
> > works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this and
> > still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this. Strangely
> > enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my
> > machines
> > but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
> >
> > Am I missing something??
> >
> > Please, need help!
> >
> > TIA,
> > Pikk
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Alan D.
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      11-25-2004, 05:45 PM
Are you trying to log on to your company domain from outside of your
companies LAN? Or are you simply trying to use the laptop for general
purpose use while away from the company headquarters?

"Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uVln$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bill
>
> Thanks for the reply. I have to admit...I'm very new to DNS and Win2K3
> so bear with me. This email may get a little long but I really need helpt
> o
> fix this. My boss is threatening to hire an outside consutant for this
> now.
> It appears that his wireless access at the airport fails now too.
> Anyway...following is a breakdown of what my configuration is and whatI've
> tried. I hope this is not too long.
>
> Basically...what I said in my first email, stands. Last night I tried a
> new
> HW profile to no avail. Same logon server error. I've also tried
> netswitcher
> and this failed also. As well, I created a new lmhosts file and this...of
> course, didn't work either. It appears to me that maybe I'm missing
> something on my server. Or maybe our machine names screw it up. If I could
> at least get it working when logged into the VPN...that'd be fine. But
> even
> this fails to allow us to browse our home and/or "outside wireless"
> networks
> although, access to our server and exchange mail works.
>
> Here's my configuration.
>
> Laptop w/ Win2K Pro. SP3 (all remote users...same config)
> Machine connects to a Win2K3 Server that runs DNS and DHCP, at the office.
> Machine names are "laptop.hq.mydomain.com"
> IP config is standard...use DHCP and I add the Win2K3 server's IP for DNS
> (which I think I need to change)
> lmhosts file used for remote access to certian servers...mainly the
> Exchange
> box.
> My new lmhosts (I created last night for testing), looks like this
> ...
> 205.207.240.129 srv2k3
> 205.207.240.129 "srv2k3 \0x1b" #PRE
> 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:srv2k3 #DII DC
> ...
>
> My old lmhosts looks like this.
> ...
> 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:server
> 205.207.240.179 unity #PRE #DOM server
> 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE
> 205.207.240.157 wdemo
> ...
> nslookup returns this when I run it at work. ???
> DNS request timed out.
> timeout was 2 seconds.
> *** Can't find server name for address 205.207.240.129: Timed out
> *** Default servers are not available
> Default Server: UnKnown
> Address: 205.207.240.129
>
> Anyway...that's all for now. Again, sorry for the huge reply.
>
> Thanks Tons!!
>
> P'
>
>
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is connected

> to
>> an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you see is
>> caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the location
>> of
>> the login server.
>>
>> Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set up a
>> different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There are also
>> third party software solutions such as netswitcher www.netswitcher.com
>>
>> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and use
>> > this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us
>> > have
>> > laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of

> which
>> > worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or
>> > others
>> > try
>> > to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're

> getting
>> > the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the logon
>> > request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an XP
>> > box.
>> > Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys

> Broadband
>> > Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well as
>> > other
>> > brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also worthy

> of
>> > noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this of
>> > course
>> > works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this
>> > and
>> > still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this.
>> > Strangely
>> > enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my
>> > machines
>> > but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
>> >
>> > Am I missing something??
>> >
>> > Please, need help!
>> >
>> > TIA,
>> > Pikk
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



 
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Pikk
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      11-25-2004, 05:53 PM
Yes...well a bit of both.

All of us that have the issue run laptops. Under the old setup (NT 4.0 PDC),
we had no problems. When we are away from the network (home or on the road),
we run IpSec to FreeSwan for a VPN into the office. This gives my users and
myself access to Exchange and Goldmine server. This actually still works
except when trying to connect from certain access points like the airports
wireless zones. In any event, the problem follows us home too. I can no
longer gain access to my home network since the server upgrade. I get "No
logon servers available..." errors when I try. Same for all others.

So, to sum up...we use our LT's for VPN and for connecting across our home
networks.

Thanks for your time!

P

"Alan D." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Are you trying to log on to your company domain from outside of your
> companies LAN? Or are you simply trying to use the laptop for general
> purpose use while away from the company headquarters?
>
> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:uVln$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Bill
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I have to admit...I'm very new to DNS and

Win2K3
> > so bear with me. This email may get a little long but I really need

helpt
> > o
> > fix this. My boss is threatening to hire an outside consutant for this
> > now.
> > It appears that his wireless access at the airport fails now too.
> > Anyway...following is a breakdown of what my configuration is and

whatI've
> > tried. I hope this is not too long.
> >
> > Basically...what I said in my first email, stands. Last night I tried a
> > new
> > HW profile to no avail. Same logon server error. I've also tried
> > netswitcher
> > and this failed also. As well, I created a new lmhosts file and

this...of
> > course, didn't work either. It appears to me that maybe I'm missing
> > something on my server. Or maybe our machine names screw it up. If I

could
> > at least get it working when logged into the VPN...that'd be fine. But
> > even
> > this fails to allow us to browse our home and/or "outside wireless"
> > networks
> > although, access to our server and exchange mail works.
> >
> > Here's my configuration.
> >
> > Laptop w/ Win2K Pro. SP3 (all remote users...same config)
> > Machine connects to a Win2K3 Server that runs DNS and DHCP, at the

office.
> > Machine names are "laptop.hq.mydomain.com"
> > IP config is standard...use DHCP and I add the Win2K3 server's IP for

DNS
> > (which I think I need to change)
> > lmhosts file used for remote access to certian servers...mainly the
> > Exchange
> > box.
> > My new lmhosts (I created last night for testing), looks like this
> > ...
> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3
> > 205.207.240.129 "srv2k3 \0x1b" #PRE
> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:srv2k3 #DII DC
> > ...
> >
> > My old lmhosts looks like this.
> > ...
> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:server
> > 205.207.240.179 unity #PRE #DOM server
> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE
> > 205.207.240.157 wdemo
> > ...
> > nslookup returns this when I run it at work. ???
> > DNS request timed out.
> > timeout was 2 seconds.
> > *** Can't find server name for address 205.207.240.129: Timed out
> > *** Default servers are not available
> > Default Server: UnKnown
> > Address: 205.207.240.129
> >
> > Anyway...that's all for now. Again, sorry for the huge reply.
> >
> > Thanks Tons!!
> >
> > P'
> >
> >
> > "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is

connected
> > to
> >> an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you see

is
> >> caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the location
> >> of
> >> the login server.
> >>
> >> Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set up a
> >> different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There are

also
> >> third party software solutions such as netswitcher www.netswitcher.com
> >>
> >> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and

use
> >> > this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us
> >> > have
> >> > laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of

> > which
> >> > worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or
> >> > others
> >> > try
> >> > to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're

> > getting
> >> > the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the logon
> >> > request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an

XP
> >> > box.
> >> > Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys

> > Broadband
> >> > Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well

as
> >> > other
> >> > brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also

worthy
> > of
> >> > noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this of
> >> > course
> >> > works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this
> >> > and
> >> > still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this.
> >> > Strangely
> >> > enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my
> >> > machines
> >> > but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
> >> >
> >> > Am I missing something??
> >> >
> >> > Please, need help!
> >> >
> >> > TIA,
> >> > Pikk
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Alan D.
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      11-26-2004, 09:15 PM
When you are away from the office, when logging in to your laptop, are you
using your normal domain account, or an alternate "local computer" account?


"Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:O59CH$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes...well a bit of both.
>
> All of us that have the issue run laptops. Under the old setup (NT 4.0
> PDC),
> we had no problems. When we are away from the network (home or on the
> road),
> we run IpSec to FreeSwan for a VPN into the office. This gives my users
> and
> myself access to Exchange and Goldmine server. This actually still works
> except when trying to connect from certain access points like the airports
> wireless zones. In any event, the problem follows us home too. I can no
> longer gain access to my home network since the server upgrade. I get "No
> logon servers available..." errors when I try. Same for all others.
>
> So, to sum up...we use our LT's for VPN and for connecting across our home
> networks.
>
> Thanks for your time!
>
> P
>
> "Alan D." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Are you trying to log on to your company domain from outside of your
>> companies LAN? Or are you simply trying to use the laptop for general
>> purpose use while away from the company headquarters?
>>
>> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:uVln$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > Thanks for the reply. I have to admit...I'm very new to DNS and

> Win2K3
>> > so bear with me. This email may get a little long but I really need

> helpt
>> > o
>> > fix this. My boss is threatening to hire an outside consutant for this
>> > now.
>> > It appears that his wireless access at the airport fails now too.
>> > Anyway...following is a breakdown of what my configuration is and

> whatI've
>> > tried. I hope this is not too long.
>> >
>> > Basically...what I said in my first email, stands. Last night I tried a
>> > new
>> > HW profile to no avail. Same logon server error. I've also tried
>> > netswitcher
>> > and this failed also. As well, I created a new lmhosts file and

> this...of
>> > course, didn't work either. It appears to me that maybe I'm missing
>> > something on my server. Or maybe our machine names screw it up. If I

> could
>> > at least get it working when logged into the VPN...that'd be fine. But
>> > even
>> > this fails to allow us to browse our home and/or "outside wireless"
>> > networks
>> > although, access to our server and exchange mail works.
>> >
>> > Here's my configuration.
>> >
>> > Laptop w/ Win2K Pro. SP3 (all remote users...same config)
>> > Machine connects to a Win2K3 Server that runs DNS and DHCP, at the

> office.
>> > Machine names are "laptop.hq.mydomain.com"
>> > IP config is standard...use DHCP and I add the Win2K3 server's IP for

> DNS
>> > (which I think I need to change)
>> > lmhosts file used for remote access to certian servers...mainly the
>> > Exchange
>> > box.
>> > My new lmhosts (I created last night for testing), looks like this
>> > ...
>> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3
>> > 205.207.240.129 "srv2k3 \0x1b" #PRE
>> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:srv2k3 #DII DC
>> > ...
>> >
>> > My old lmhosts looks like this.
>> > ...
>> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:server
>> > 205.207.240.179 unity #PRE #DOM server
>> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE
>> > 205.207.240.157 wdemo
>> > ...
>> > nslookup returns this when I run it at work. ???
>> > DNS request timed out.
>> > timeout was 2 seconds.
>> > *** Can't find server name for address 205.207.240.129: Timed out
>> > *** Default servers are not available
>> > Default Server: UnKnown
>> > Address: 205.207.240.129
>> >
>> > Anyway...that's all for now. Again, sorry for the huge reply.
>> >
>> > Thanks Tons!!
>> >
>> > P'
>> >
>> >
>> > "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is

> connected
>> > to
>> >> an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you see

> is
>> >> caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the
>> >> location
>> >> of
>> >> the login server.
>> >>
>> >> Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set up
>> >> a
>> >> different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There are

> also
>> >> third party software solutions such as netswitcher www.netswitcher.com
>> >>
>> >> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server and

> use
>> >> > this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of us
>> >> > have
>> >> > laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All of
>> > which
>> >> > worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or
>> >> > others
>> >> > try
>> >> > to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're
>> > getting
>> >> > the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the
>> >> > logon
>> >> > request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or an

> XP
>> >> > box.
>> >> > Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys
>> > Broadband
>> >> > Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as well

> as
>> >> > other
>> >> > brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also

> worthy
>> > of
>> >> > noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this
>> >> > of
>> >> > course
>> >> > works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix this
>> >> > and
>> >> > still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this.
>> >> > Strangely
>> >> > enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of my
>> >> > machines
>> >> > but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Am I missing something??
>> >> >
>> >> > Please, need help!
>> >> >
>> >> > TIA,
>> >> > Pikk
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



 
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      11-28-2004, 11:08 AM
Hi Alan

I use my normal domain account. I have to do this because I want to be able
to connect to my Exchange server (via ourVPN). It's an interesting question
because my home network access is fine when I login locally on my laptop as
administrator...so as I suspect other users will work as well. Problem
is...we need to access the Exchange server and run Outlook. Logging in
locally creates another set of problems where that's concerned.

P

"Alan D." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:O5BC$(E-Mail Removed)...
> When you are away from the office, when logging in to your laptop, are you
> using your normal domain account, or an alternate "local computer"

account?
>
>
> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:O59CH$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Yes...well a bit of both.
> >
> > All of us that have the issue run laptops. Under the old setup (NT 4.0
> > PDC),
> > we had no problems. When we are away from the network (home or on the
> > road),
> > we run IpSec to FreeSwan for a VPN into the office. This gives my users
> > and
> > myself access to Exchange and Goldmine server. This actually still works
> > except when trying to connect from certain access points like the

airports
> > wireless zones. In any event, the problem follows us home too. I can no
> > longer gain access to my home network since the server upgrade. I get

"No
> > logon servers available..." errors when I try. Same for all others.
> >
> > So, to sum up...we use our LT's for VPN and for connecting across our

home
> > networks.
> >
> > Thanks for your time!
> >
> > P
> >
> > "Alan D." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Are you trying to log on to your company domain from outside of your
> >> companies LAN? Or are you simply trying to use the laptop for general
> >> purpose use while away from the company headquarters?
> >>
> >> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:uVln$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Bill
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the reply. I have to admit...I'm very new to DNS and

> > Win2K3
> >> > so bear with me. This email may get a little long but I really need

> > helpt
> >> > o
> >> > fix this. My boss is threatening to hire an outside consutant for

this
> >> > now.
> >> > It appears that his wireless access at the airport fails now too.
> >> > Anyway...following is a breakdown of what my configuration is and

> > whatI've
> >> > tried. I hope this is not too long.
> >> >
> >> > Basically...what I said in my first email, stands. Last night I tried

a
> >> > new
> >> > HW profile to no avail. Same logon server error. I've also tried
> >> > netswitcher
> >> > and this failed also. As well, I created a new lmhosts file and

> > this...of
> >> > course, didn't work either. It appears to me that maybe I'm missing
> >> > something on my server. Or maybe our machine names screw it up. If I

> > could
> >> > at least get it working when logged into the VPN...that'd be fine.

But
> >> > even
> >> > this fails to allow us to browse our home and/or "outside wireless"
> >> > networks
> >> > although, access to our server and exchange mail works.
> >> >
> >> > Here's my configuration.
> >> >
> >> > Laptop w/ Win2K Pro. SP3 (all remote users...same config)
> >> > Machine connects to a Win2K3 Server that runs DNS and DHCP, at the

> > office.
> >> > Machine names are "laptop.hq.mydomain.com"
> >> > IP config is standard...use DHCP and I add the Win2K3 server's IP for

> > DNS
> >> > (which I think I need to change)
> >> > lmhosts file used for remote access to certian servers...mainly the
> >> > Exchange
> >> > box.
> >> > My new lmhosts (I created last night for testing), looks like this
> >> > ...
> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3
> >> > 205.207.240.129 "srv2k3 \0x1b" #PRE
> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:srv2k3 #DII DC
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> > My old lmhosts looks like this.
> >> > ...
> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:server
> >> > 205.207.240.179 unity #PRE #DOM server
> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE
> >> > 205.207.240.157 wdemo
> >> > ...
> >> > nslookup returns this when I run it at work. ???
> >> > DNS request timed out.
> >> > timeout was 2 seconds.
> >> > *** Can't find server name for address 205.207.240.129: Timed out
> >> > *** Default servers are not available
> >> > Default Server: UnKnown
> >> > Address: 205.207.240.129
> >> >
> >> > Anyway...that's all for now. Again, sorry for the huge reply.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Tons!!
> >> >
> >> > P'
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is

> > connected
> >> > to
> >> >> an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you

see
> > is
> >> >> caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the
> >> >> location
> >> >> of
> >> >> the login server.
> >> >>
> >> >> Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set

up
> >> >> a
> >> >> different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There are

> > also
> >> >> third party software solutions such as netswitcher

www.netswitcher.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server

and
> > use
> >> >> > this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of

us
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All

of
> >> > which
> >> >> > worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or
> >> >> > others
> >> >> > try
> >> >> > to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're
> >> > getting
> >> >> > the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the
> >> >> > logon
> >> >> > request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or

an
> > XP
> >> >> > box.
> >> >> > Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys
> >> > Broadband
> >> >> > Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as

well
> > as
> >> >> > other
> >> >> > brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also

> > worthy
> >> > of
> >> >> > noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and this
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > course
> >> >> > works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix

this
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this.
> >> >> > Strangely
> >> >> > enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of

my
> >> >> > machines
> >> >> > but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Am I missing something??
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please, need help!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > TIA,
> >> >> > Pikk
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



 
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      11-29-2004, 12:34 AM
With NT, you find the login server by its Netbios name. With AD, you
find it through DNS.

If you want to do a domain login from your home network, your client will
need to have some way of finding the corporate DNS server. (If it can't,
there will be a long delay.) That is where the SRV records to identify the
logon server are stored. Is the VPN up when you try to login, or do you need
to log in first?




"Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uQA%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Alan
>
> I use my normal domain account. I have to do this because I want to be
> able
> to connect to my Exchange server (via ourVPN). It's an interesting
> question
> because my home network access is fine when I login locally on my laptop
> as
> administrator...so as I suspect other users will work as well. Problem
> is...we need to access the Exchange server and run Outlook. Logging in
> locally creates another set of problems where that's concerned.
>
> P
>
> "Alan D." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:O5BC$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> When you are away from the office, when logging in to your laptop, are
>> you
>> using your normal domain account, or an alternate "local computer"

> account?
>>
>>
>> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:O59CH$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Yes...well a bit of both.
>> >
>> > All of us that have the issue run laptops. Under the old setup (NT 4.0
>> > PDC),
>> > we had no problems. When we are away from the network (home or on the
>> > road),
>> > we run IpSec to FreeSwan for a VPN into the office. This gives my users
>> > and
>> > myself access to Exchange and Goldmine server. This actually still
>> > works
>> > except when trying to connect from certain access points like the

> airports
>> > wireless zones. In any event, the problem follows us home too. I can no
>> > longer gain access to my home network since the server upgrade. I get

> "No
>> > logon servers available..." errors when I try. Same for all others.
>> >
>> > So, to sum up...we use our LT's for VPN and for connecting across our

> home
>> > networks.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time!
>> >
>> > P
>> >
>> > "Alan D." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Are you trying to log on to your company domain from outside of your
>> >> companies LAN? Or are you simply trying to use the laptop for general
>> >> purpose use while away from the company headquarters?
>> >>
>> >> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:uVln$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Bill
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the reply. I have to admit...I'm very new to DNS and
>> > Win2K3
>> >> > so bear with me. This email may get a little long but I really need
>> > helpt
>> >> > o
>> >> > fix this. My boss is threatening to hire an outside consutant for

> this
>> >> > now.
>> >> > It appears that his wireless access at the airport fails now too.
>> >> > Anyway...following is a breakdown of what my configuration is and
>> > whatI've
>> >> > tried. I hope this is not too long.
>> >> >
>> >> > Basically...what I said in my first email, stands. Last night I
>> >> > tried

> a
>> >> > new
>> >> > HW profile to no avail. Same logon server error. I've also tried
>> >> > netswitcher
>> >> > and this failed also. As well, I created a new lmhosts file and
>> > this...of
>> >> > course, didn't work either. It appears to me that maybe I'm missing
>> >> > something on my server. Or maybe our machine names screw it up. If I
>> > could
>> >> > at least get it working when logged into the VPN...that'd be fine.

> But
>> >> > even
>> >> > this fails to allow us to browse our home and/or "outside wireless"
>> >> > networks
>> >> > although, access to our server and exchange mail works.
>> >> >
>> >> > Here's my configuration.
>> >> >
>> >> > Laptop w/ Win2K Pro. SP3 (all remote users...same config)
>> >> > Machine connects to a Win2K3 Server that runs DNS and DHCP, at the
>> > office.
>> >> > Machine names are "laptop.hq.mydomain.com"
>> >> > IP config is standard...use DHCP and I add the Win2K3 server's IP
>> >> > for
>> > DNS
>> >> > (which I think I need to change)
>> >> > lmhosts file used for remote access to certian servers...mainly the
>> >> > Exchange
>> >> > box.
>> >> > My new lmhosts (I created last night for testing), looks like this
>> >> > ...
>> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3
>> >> > 205.207.240.129 "srv2k3 \0x1b" #PRE
>> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:srv2k3 #DII DC
>> >> > ...
>> >> >
>> >> > My old lmhosts looks like this.
>> >> > ...
>> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE #DOM:server
>> >> > 205.207.240.179 unity #PRE #DOM server
>> >> > 205.207.240.129 srv2k3 #PRE
>> >> > 205.207.240.157 wdemo
>> >> > ...
>> >> > nslookup returns this when I run it at work. ???
>> >> > DNS request timed out.
>> >> > timeout was 2 seconds.
>> >> > *** Can't find server name for address 205.207.240.129: Timed out
>> >> > *** Default servers are not available
>> >> > Default Server: UnKnown
>> >> > Address: 205.207.240.129
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway...that's all for now. Again, sorry for the huge reply.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks Tons!!
>> >> >
>> >> > P'
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
>> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> If your machine is configured to log into a domain and it is
>> > connected
>> >> > to
>> >> >> an IP network, it will try to do a domain login. So the delay you

> see
>> > is
>> >> >> caused by the machine trying to find the DNS server to get the
>> >> >> location
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the login server.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Search Help for info on hardware profiles. You may need to set

> up
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> different hardware profile for your home and office setup. There
>> >> >> are
>> > also
>> >> >> third party software solutions such as netswitcher

> www.netswitcher.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Pikk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >> > I've recently upgraded our company domain server to 2003 server

> and
>> > use
>> >> >> > this for DNS as well. Prior to this, we ran NT 4. Now several of

> us
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > laptops (including myself) and home wireless/wired networks. All

> of
>> >> > which
>> >> >> > worked flawlessly before the server upgrade. Now...when myself or
>> >> >> > others
>> >> >> > try
>> >> >> > to connect to their home workgroups (to XP or Win2k boxes), we're
>> >> > getting
>> >> >> > the error. "There are no logon servers available to service the
>> >> >> > logon
>> >> >> > request". This happens whether I try to connect to a Win2K box or

> an
>> > XP
>> >> >> > box.
>> >> >> > Both machines are on a wired/wireless b network using a Linksys
>> >> > Broadband
>> >> >> > Router. Others that are having the same problem use Linksys as

> well
>> > as
>> >> >> > other
>> >> >> > brands...same problem occurs. I assume this is a DNS issue. Also
>> > worthy
>> >> > of
>> >> >> > noting is that we all run IpSec thru FreeSwan for our VPN and
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > course
>> >> >> > works fine. In any event...I've tried everything to try and fix

> this
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > still no luck. I'm going a little nuts trying to resolve this.
>> >> >> > Strangely
>> >> >> > enough though...I used "Net Use" once and it did work for one of

> my
>> >> >> > machines
>> >> >> > but now...not anymore. Same error at the DOS prompt every time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Am I missing something??
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please, need help!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > TIA,
>> >> >> > Pikk
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

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