WIN98SE Disc During Workgroup Change

I'm embroiled in getting an XP back onto my original LAN to join WIN98SE and
WIN95 machines... one each. When I changed workgroup names yesterday in an
attempt to match one created on the XP, I was asked for the disc for 98SE. I
inserted it but had it rejected. I then selected the other option for the
file location, C:Windows\System\Precopy. Rejected there too (couldn't find
the file). I was left with no alternative but to select "Skip". The process
proceeded, the machine rebooted, and I saw my computer was now a member of
the XP created workgroup (I used the XP CD to install whatever was file was
needed as instructed to complete the setup). Although I still couldn't see
the XP, at least I was part of the XP's workgroup. (The WIN95 is left out in
the cold through all this 'cause the XP CD apparently isn't to be used on
the WIN95 manchine. That's gonna' be another problem). I just stumbled on a
bit of info that explained I need to update the security software I'm
sampling specifically for the network; NOD32. This may be why I have a
visibility problem. In preparation, I switched the name of my workgroup on
the WIN98SE back to the original. I was asked for that disc again and went
through the same routine... but I got my old LAN back and I'm back to dquare
one; the 98 and 95 see one another but the XP stands alone.

I'm concerned about that disc reference issue. My 98 came with WIN98 and I
bought and registered the 98SE updates disc. Could the issue lie in the fact
that my disc is "updates" and the program is looking for a "full version"?
If so...how do I handle that? I'm registered with both discs. Additionally,
the fact that these changes seemed to have been made despite the fact that
WIN98SE didn't find what it was looking for causes me to be suspicious; is
something now corrupt because the file wasn't found?

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:12:41 -0400, "jaygreg" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

> Additionally,
>the fact that these changes seemed to have been made despite the fact that
>WIN98SE didn't find what it was looking for causes me to be suspicious; is
>something now corrupt because the file wasn't found?

I don't think so. It seems to ask for the cd quite often even if
something is already installed and usually on those occasions it works
okay after selecting skip.

If you don't have the full cd, the files are often installed on the
hard disk in a location like c:\windows\options\cabs. You can search
your hard disk for *.cab to see if they are on the disk.

In any case, leave the 98 and 95 machines alone and configure the xp
machine to join them.

DIsable all firewalls until the connection is made.

You need to post a bit more information about how all the machines are
networked together, how they get ip addresses, can you ping the
addresses? etc.


Jim.

Since the update prog of Win98SE couldn't find what it needed on the CD or
the Percopy subdirectory or windows (the preprinted options), would I simply
type "C:" or do I have to type "C:*.cab"? I'd have no way of knowing the
program was looking for a .cab extension.

If there isn't a standard way of handling this, would you know if Microsoft
has a CD full version they could sell me on a replacement CD basis? AS I
said earlier, both copied (WIN98 and the SE updates) are registered to me.

Back to the configuration of the 98 & 95...
I've turned off the firewalls but still can't see that XP for eithr the 98
or 95 and the XP can't see them. I can ping the machines from each outher
but can't see them. I really don't know where to turn next.

I should reemphasize the fact that I fell back to the original network that
I don't believe was setup using the XP which means I never used that XP disc
on the 98 machine like I did yesterday. I was able to see the network I
created (it showed up on the 98) but the XP machine never appeared in the
network when I clicked to see what was connected.

My next step is.... damned if I know!

"James Egan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:12:41 -0400, "jaygreg" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> > Additionally,
> >the fact that these changes seemed to have been made despite the fact
that
> >WIN98SE didn't find what it was looking for causes me to be suspicious;
is
> >something now corrupt because the file wasn't found?
>
> I don't think so. It seems to ask for the cd quite often even if
> something is already installed and usually on those occasions it works
> okay after selecting skip.
>
> If you don't have the full cd, the files are often installed on the
> hard disk in a location like c:\windows\options\cabs. You can search
> your hard disk for *.cab to see if they are on the disk.
>
> In any case, leave the 98 and 95 machines alone and configure the xp
> machine to join them.
>
> DIsable all firewalls until the connection is made.
>
> You need to post a bit more information about how all the machines are
> networked together, how they get ip addresses, can you ping the
> addresses? etc.
>
>
> Jim.
>

On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:20:42 -0400, "jaygreg" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Since the update prog of Win98SE couldn't find what it needed on the CD or
>the Percopy subdirectory or windows (the preprinted options), would I simply
>type "C:" or do I have to type "C:*.cab"? I'd have no way of knowing the
>program was looking for a .cab extension.

Search all files and folders (on the hard disk) for *.cab which will
list all files with a cab extension and also tell you the location of
the files. If they are in fact on you computer just browse to that
directory whenever it asks for the cd.

>
>If there isn't a standard way of handling this, would you know if Microsoft
>has a CD full version they could sell me on a replacement CD basis? AS I
>said earlier, both copied (WIN98 and the SE updates) are registered to me.
>

It's all old stuff now. You should be able to pick something up on
ebay for a song.


>Back to the configuration of the 98 & 95...
>I've turned off the firewalls but still can't see that XP for eithr the 98
>or 95 and the XP can't see them. I can ping the machines from each outher
>but can't see them. I really don't know where to turn next.
>
>I should reemphasize the fact that I fell back to the original network that
>I don't believe was setup using the XP which means I never used that XP disc
>on the 98 machine like I did yesterday. I was able to see the network I
>created (it showed up on the 98) but the XP machine never appeared in the
>network when I clicked to see what was connected.

You don't need the xp disk. It's easy enough to configure all the
machines manually.

You can put the xp machine in the same workgroup as the others.
Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Computer Name -> Change

Go into the properties -> tcp/ip -> properties -> advanced of your
network connection (right click) and ensure netbios is enabled.

If you still can't browse, and it takes a few minutes before the
machines might show up, then post some details of your (xp) tcp/ip
configuration.

Also you might try connecting to \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\sharename (ie using
the ip address of the machine with the share). See if that connects.


Jim.

James Egan wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:20:42 -0400, "jaygreg" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >Since the update prog of Win98SE couldn't find what it needed on the CD or
> >the Percopy subdirectory or windows (the preprinted options), would I simply
> >type "C:" or do I have to type "C:*.cab"? I'd have no way of knowing the
> >program was looking for a .cab extension.
>
> Search all files and folders (on the hard disk) for *.cab which will
> list all files with a cab extension and also tell you the location of
> the files. If they are in fact on you computer just browse to that
> directory whenever it asks for the cd.
>
> >
> >If there isn't a standard way of handling this, would you know if Microsoft
> >has a CD full version they could sell me on a replacement CD basis? AS I
> >said earlier, both copied (WIN98 and the SE updates) are registered to me.
> >
>
> It's all old stuff now. You should be able to pick something up on
> ebay for a song.
>
>
> >Back to the configuration of the 98 & 95...
> >I've turned off the firewalls but still can't see that XP for eithr the 98
> >or 95 and the XP can't see them. I can ping the machines from each outher
> >but can't see them. I really don't know where to turn next.
> >
> >I should reemphasize the fact that I fell back to the original network that
> >I don't believe was setup using the XP which means I never used that XP disc
> >on the 98 machine like I did yesterday. I was able to see the network I
> >created (it showed up on the 98) but the XP machine never appeared in the
> >network when I clicked to see what was connected.
>
> You don't need the xp disk. It's easy enough to configure all the
> machines manually.
>
> You can put the xp machine in the same workgroup as the others.
> Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Computer Name -> Change
>
> Go into the properties -> tcp/ip -> properties -> advanced of your
> network connection (right click) and ensure netbios is enabled.
>
> If you still can't browse, and it takes a few minutes before the
> machines might show up, then post some details of your (xp) tcp/ip
> configuration.
>
> Also you might try connecting to \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\sharename (ie using
> the ip address of the machine with the share). See if that connects.
>
>
> Jim.






Hi,

Dear,
I'm giving you the simple way to resolve your problem.
1. On Xp machine right click on My Network Places, click on properties.
then run small home network which u will get on left side.On running
this wizard give the workgruop name which u r using on 98 or 95 and
follow the process till finish.
2. After finishing R.Click on local area network then TCP/Ip then
properties.confihure ip address series which u are using for ur subnet
and finish the lan setup.
3. Go to control panel and double click on windows firewall and click
off.
4.R.Click on my computer select manage. expand local user and groups,
select users. On the right hand side windows u will get few accounts
like Administrator, ASPNET, guest etc.
Right click on guest account and enable this account.
I hope it will resolve ur problem..
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regards,
Nazish