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Rob
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      10-13-2003, 08:56 PM
Maybe someone here can help. I "upgraded" a user on an NT domain to a better
machine. I didn't want to reinstall all of the software so I just swapped
hard disks. Everything seemed to go fine. Win98 upgraded itself for all of
the "new" hardware. I thought all was well until I realized I wasn't logging
into the domain. When the machine boots, it goes straight to the desktop. If
I do a Start|shutdown|logoff user it comes up to the domain login and works
fine. I've got the login to an NT domain set. I've reinstalled windows 98
over the top and reinstalled the networking components also. Been working
with Pc's and networks along time but can't seem to solve this one. Any help
would be appreciated. -Rob


 
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      10-13-2003, 11:08 PM
I had this problem too a little while ago, and ended up
walking around it: instead of getting the domain controller
to validate the user and to invoke the logon script, I placed
a reference to the logon script into the startup directory
(\\SomeServer\netlogon\netlogon.bat). It works very nicely!


"Rob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Maybe someone here can help. I "upgraded" a user on an NT domain to a

better
> machine. I didn't want to reinstall all of the software so I just swapped
> hard disks. Everything seemed to go fine. Win98 upgraded itself for all of
> the "new" hardware. I thought all was well until I realized I wasn't

logging
> into the domain. When the machine boots, it goes straight to the desktop.

If
> I do a Start|shutdown|logoff user it comes up to the domain login and

works
> fine. I've got the login to an NT domain set. I've reinstalled windows 98
> over the top and reinstalled the networking components also. Been working
> with Pc's and networks along time but can't seem to solve this one. Any

help
> would be appreciated. -Rob
>
>



 
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Jan
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      10-18-2003, 11:36 PM
Rob:

I have had the same problem for months on a couple of
different machines -- both at work and at home. The
problem for me occurred after a reinstall of Win98se. I
solved one of the situations by doing a full system
restore but that was only after working for two days
trying to figure out why this was happening. I am now
dealing with the same problem on two machines at work --
they will logon to the network only by manually logging
off and then logging on. Recently, I thought maybe I had
the answer but it didn't pan out for me. Nevertheless, it
might work for you: check your registry, go to
HKLM/network/logon and make sure that it says "logon
validated" with a value of 01 (the key might not be
exactly "logon validated" -- I noticed that one of the
machines I checked said "UserProfile" -- at any rate,
there should be a LM logon with 00 values and another key
with 01 as its value). If you find out anything else, I
would appreciate your passing it on to me also.
Jan

>-----Original Message-----
>Maybe someone here can help. I "upgraded" a user on an NT

domain to a better
>machine. I didn't want to reinstall all of the software

so I just swapped
>hard disks. Everything seemed to go fine. Win98 upgraded

itself for all of
>the "new" hardware. I thought all was well until I

realized I wasn't logging
>into the domain. When the machine boots, it goes straight

to the desktop. If
>I do a Start|shutdown|logoff user it comes up to the

domain login and works
>fine. I've got the login to an NT domain set. I've

reinstalled windows 98
>over the top and reinstalled the networking components

also. Been working
>with Pc's and networks along time but can't seem to solve

this one. Any help
>would be appreciated. -Rob
>
>
>.
>

 
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      10-19-2003, 06:12 AM
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:36:32 -0700, "Jan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>trying to figure out why this was happening. I am now
>dealing with the same problem on two machines at work --
>they will logon to the network only by manually logging
>off and then logging on. Recently, I thought maybe I had
>the answer but it didn't pan out for me. Nevertheless, it
>might work for you: check your registry, go to
>HKLM/network/logon and make sure that it says "logon
>validated" with a value of 01 (the key might not be
>exactly "logon validated" -- I noticed that one of the
>machines I checked said "UserProfile" -- at any rate,


You might be referring to a DWORD value "MustBeValidated" which when
set to 1, and the machine is also set to logon to a nt domain, will
deny local access if the logon isn't validated.

The problem probably isn't linked with this.

More likely there is an "autologon" value in the registry in the
location below which needs deleting.

HKLM/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/network/realmodenet


Jim.

 
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Jan
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      10-21-2003, 04:17 AM
Thanks Jim -- I have come to the same conclusion after
reading other similar situations posted herein. I also
found the Microsoft knowledge base article 141858 which
addresses the issue in great detail.
Jan
>-----Original Message-----
>On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:36:32 -0700, "Jan" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote:
>
>>trying to figure out why this was happening. I am now
>>dealing with the same problem on two machines at work --
>>they will logon to the network only by manually logging
>>off and then logging on. Recently, I thought maybe I

had
>>the answer but it didn't pan out for me. Nevertheless,

it
>>might work for you: check your registry, go to
>>HKLM/network/logon and make sure that it says "logon
>>validated" with a value of 01 (the key might not be
>>exactly "logon validated" -- I noticed that one of the
>>machines I checked said "UserProfile" -- at any rate,

>
>You might be referring to a DWORD value "MustBeValidated"

which when
>set to 1, and the machine is also set to logon to a nt

domain, will
>deny local access if the logon isn't validated.
>
>The problem probably isn't linked with this.
>
>More likely there is an "autologon" value in the registry

in the
>location below which needs deleting.
>
>HKLM/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/network/rea

lmodenet
>
>
>Jim.
>
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