Win98 DHCP problems (AKA why I hate Win98)

Argh!

I have a NTL cable modem that I now need to share with my flatmate.
I'm running WinXP on a relatively new computer, she's running Win98
(original) on an archaic one (100 Mhz Pentium, 48 MB RAM, 1.2 Gig
Harddrive).

Bought a Mentor 4 LAN + 1 WAN router (no product code, but the full
specs are described at
http://www.dacomputers.com/products/...hp?code=KNRMCL) today
and hooked it up to the cable modem. My computer gets an IP from the
builtin DHCP server in the router; things are dandy on this end.

Her computer does not get _anything_; keeps assigning itself 169.*.
The cable going to her computer works fine when plugged into mine, so
the cable & ports are good.

She can ping 127.0.0.1, so I'm assuming this is an indicator of a
working network card (?), but naturally cannot ping anything in the
192.* range where I live.

<computer mysticism>
I've tried reinstalling her network drivers (TCP/IP, NE2000 compatible
NIC) to see if anything "fishy" existed with the old install, but to
no avail.
</computer mysticism>

I'm lost. I don't even know what to do. The cables work, the router
works, the DHCP server works, her NIC works, but I'll be damned if I
can get her a valid IP address from the router.

Any hints to what I can do to massage Win98? Links to hacks, MS KB
articles, your computer mysticism would be appreciated as would advice
from the experts.

Hoping you're smarter than I am.
Bjorn

At least Win98 doesn't hog all the memory and think
that all humans are brainless idiots; like a certain OS...
oh where was I;

For the Windows 98 pc to get an IP address for itself, it
needs to know the address of the DHCP server, in this
case, your router. Might be something like 192.168.0.1 you
should be able to find it out on your XP pc.

Then you'de want the Win98 pc to be able to resolve IP
addresses on the internet from site names, you could try
adding the router's IP address as a gateway.

You shouldn't blame the OS because you're to lazy to learn
how to do the stuff yourself ~_^

"Travis Swift" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:353701c4af57$c30ef750$(E-Mail Removed)...
> At least Win98 doesn't hog all the memory and think
> that all humans are brainless idiots; like a certain OS...
> oh where was I;
>
> For the Windows 98 pc to get an IP address for itself, it
> needs to know the address of the DHCP server, in this
> case, your router. Might be something like 192.168.0.1 you
> should be able to find it out on your XP pc.
>
> Then you'de want the Win98 pc to be able to resolve IP
> addresses on the internet from site names, you could try
> adding the router's IP address as a gateway.
>
> You shouldn't blame the OS because you're to lazy to learn
> how to do the stuff yourself ~_^

yup , needs "Gateway" and yours would be the IP you punch in your browser to
access the router

"Travis Swift" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<353701c4af57$c30ef750$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> At least Win98 doesn't hog all the memory and think
> that all humans are brainless idiots; like a certain OS...
> oh where was I;
>
> For the Windows 98 pc to get an IP address for itself, it
> needs to know the address of the DHCP server, in this
> case, your router. Might be something like 192.168.0.1 you
> should be able to find it out on your XP pc.
>
> Then you'de want the Win98 pc to be able to resolve IP
> addresses on the internet from site names, you could try
> adding the router's IP address as a gateway.
>
> You shouldn't blame the OS because you're to lazy to learn
> how to do the stuff yourself ~_^

Thanks for your reply. I was under the impression that setting Win98
up to obtain an IP address automatically would make it send out DHCP
discovery requests which my router would respond to. Isn't that the
whole concept of DHCP? The router was already added as a gateway, but
thanks for the tip.

Regardless, assigning both computers a static IP still doesn't allow
the Win98 box to ping anybody but itself, so I've come to the
conclusion it might be a NIC problem.

I'm assuming your doodle is suppose to be the horizontal form of ;-),
so I'll let your quick estimation of my personality slide.

Bjorn

"Bjorn Toft Madsen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> "Travis Swift" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:<353701c4af57$c30ef750$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>> At least Win98 doesn't hog all the memory and think
>> that all humans are brainless idiots; like a certain OS...
>> oh where was I;
>>
>> For the Windows 98 pc to get an IP address for itself, it
>> needs to know the address of the DHCP server, in this
>> case, your router. Might be something like 192.168.0.1 you
>> should be able to find it out on your XP pc.
>>
>> Then you'de want the Win98 pc to be able to resolve IP
>> addresses on the internet from site names, you could try
>> adding the router's IP address as a gateway.
>>
>> You shouldn't blame the OS because you're to lazy to learn
>> how to do the stuff yourself ~_^
>
> Thanks for your reply. I was under the impression that setting Win98
> up to obtain an IP address automatically would make it send out DHCP
> discovery requests which my router would respond to. Isn't that the
> whole concept of DHCP? The router was already added as a gateway, but
> thanks for the tip.
>
> Regardless, assigning both computers a static IP still doesn't allow
> the Win98 box to ping anybody but itself, so I've come to the
> conclusion it might be a NIC problem.
>
> I'm assuming your doodle is suppose to be the horizontal form of ;-),
> so I'll let your quick estimation of my personality slide.
>
> Bjorn

I reread your post ...you say you are using NE2000 compatible ? is it by
chance an ISA card , if so , you will probably have to find the proper
driver set for it included with most ISA NIC's is a DOS based setup program
to match what windows assigns as an IRQ to what the card is ACTUALLY set
at...

hope that helps :>