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NuBee
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      06-09-2006, 08:56 PM
I have a win2003 SP1 file server-IIS6.0 web server-DNS server. It has dual
NICs. Nic1 is public (w/static IP, connected via DSL modem) and Nic2 is
private (DHCP, wireless internal network with winXP machines connected).

I already tried ICS and there are issues with ICS and win2003 SP1 that are
not resolved.

So, The MS newsgroup people have said to make my server a RRAS server. Ok,
I did that by configuring the RRAS server via Administrative Tools >> Routing
and Remote Access snap-in. I hope I did this correctly??

Then someone said to: "Setup a static route on the DSL router for you
internal wireless lan network that sends it to Nic1 address". Well, ok,
what does that mean and how do I do this thru the RRAS snap-in?????????????

In the RRAS snap-in, I see ServerName>>IP Routing>>Static Routes. But, I
don't know what to do next. Need some step-by-step help here! Any articles
to guide me in this????
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Doug Sherman [MVP]
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      06-09-2006, 10:18 PM
If you are simply trying to give clients Internet access and RRAS is
configured correctly, then clients should have a default gateway = IP
address of Nic2. On the server, Nic2 should have no default gateway. There
is no obvious need for a static route in this scenario.

Doug Shermaan
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

"NuBee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:197616BE-795D-46EB-95BC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a win2003 SP1 file server-IIS6.0 web server-DNS server. It has

dual
> NICs. Nic1 is public (w/static IP, connected via DSL modem) and Nic2 is
> private (DHCP, wireless internal network with winXP machines connected).
>
> I already tried ICS and there are issues with ICS and win2003 SP1 that are
> not resolved.
>
> So, The MS newsgroup people have said to make my server a RRAS server.

Ok,
> I did that by configuring the RRAS server via Administrative Tools >>

Routing
> and Remote Access snap-in. I hope I did this correctly??
>
> Then someone said to: "Setup a static route on the DSL router for you
> internal wireless lan network that sends it to Nic1 address". Well, ok,
> what does that mean and how do I do this thru the RRAS

snap-in?????????????
>
> In the RRAS snap-in, I see ServerName>>IP Routing>>Static Routes. But, I
> don't know what to do next. Need some step-by-step help here! Any

articles
> to guide me in this????
> --
> NuBee



 
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Bill Grant
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      06-10-2006, 01:10 AM
The other problem you may face with RRAS rather than ICS is that RRAS is
a bit more choosy about the public connection. ICS will happily share all
sorts of connections, even USB modems. With RRAS you can only share
something that appears as an interface in the RRAS console. If your external
NIC gets a public IP from your ISP, everything should be OK. You can just
use that as your public interface. If it is a PPPoE setup you will need to
use the PPPoE interface as the public interface for NAT.

Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
> If you are simply trying to give clients Internet access and RRAS is
> configured correctly, then clients should have a default gateway = IP
> address of Nic2. On the server, Nic2 should have no default gateway.
> There is no obvious need for a static route in this scenario.
>
> Doug Shermaan
> MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
>
> "NuBee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:197616BE-795D-46EB-95BC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have a win2003 SP1 file server-IIS6.0 web server-DNS server. It
>> has dual NICs. Nic1 is public (w/static IP, connected via DSL
>> modem) and Nic2 is private (DHCP, wireless internal network with
>> winXP machines connected).
>>
>> I already tried ICS and there are issues with ICS and win2003 SP1
>> that are not resolved.
>>
>> So, The MS newsgroup people have said to make my server a RRAS
>> server.

> Ok,
>> I did that by configuring the RRAS server via Administrative Tools
>> >> Routing and Remote Access snap-in. I hope I did this correctly??

>>
>> Then someone said to: "Setup a static route on the DSL router for
>> you internal wireless lan network that sends it to Nic1 address".
>> Well, ok, what does that mean and how do I do this thru the RRAS
>> snap-in?????????????
>>
>> In the RRAS snap-in, I see ServerName>>IP Routing>>Static Routes.
>> But, I don't know what to do next. Need some step-by-step help
>> here! Any articles to guide me in this????
>> --
>> NuBee



 
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NuBee
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      06-10-2006, 09:38 AM
Thank you gentlemen for your help. The default gateway is Nic2 IP address
for the clients, so that doesn't appear to be the problem. THe setup is
PPPoE, so does that mean that I need to use the IP of the DSL modem. For
example, let's say the DSL modem assigned the Nic1 an IP address of
192.168.1.95, then do I use this IP address????
--
NuBee


"Bill Grant" wrote:

> The other problem you may face with RRAS rather than ICS is that RRAS is
> a bit more choosy about the public connection. ICS will happily share all
> sorts of connections, even USB modems. With RRAS you can only share
> something that appears as an interface in the RRAS console. If your external
> NIC gets a public IP from your ISP, everything should be OK. You can just
> use that as your public interface. If it is a PPPoE setup you will need to
> use the PPPoE interface as the public interface for NAT.
>
> Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
> > If you are simply trying to give clients Internet access and RRAS is
> > configured correctly, then clients should have a default gateway = IP
> > address of Nic2. On the server, Nic2 should have no default gateway.
> > There is no obvious need for a static route in this scenario.
> >
> > Doug Shermaan
> > MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
> >
> > "NuBee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:197616BE-795D-46EB-95BC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I have a win2003 SP1 file server-IIS6.0 web server-DNS server. It
> >> has dual NICs. Nic1 is public (w/static IP, connected via DSL
> >> modem) and Nic2 is private (DHCP, wireless internal network with
> >> winXP machines connected).
> >>
> >> I already tried ICS and there are issues with ICS and win2003 SP1
> >> that are not resolved.
> >>
> >> So, The MS newsgroup people have said to make my server a RRAS
> >> server.

> > Ok,
> >> I did that by configuring the RRAS server via Administrative Tools
> >> >> Routing and Remote Access snap-in. I hope I did this correctly??
> >>
> >> Then someone said to: "Setup a static route on the DSL router for
> >> you internal wireless lan network that sends it to Nic1 address".
> >> Well, ok, what does that mean and how do I do this thru the RRAS
> >> snap-in?????????????
> >>
> >> In the RRAS snap-in, I see ServerName>>IP Routing>>Static Routes.
> >> But, I don't know what to do next. Need some step-by-step help
> >> here! Any articles to guide me in this????
> >> --
> >> NuBee

>
>
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Bill Grant
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      06-11-2006, 12:12 AM
As I said, PPPoE is a bit odd. You need to use the PPPoE interface, not
the NIC as the public interface for NAT.

NuBee wrote:
> Thank you gentlemen for your help. The default gateway is Nic2 IP
> address for the clients, so that doesn't appear to be the problem.
> THe setup is PPPoE, so does that mean that I need to use the IP of
> the DSL modem. For example, let's say the DSL modem assigned the
> Nic1 an IP address of 192.168.1.95, then do I use this IP address????
>
>> The other problem you may face with RRAS rather than ICS is that
>> RRAS is a bit more choosy about the public connection. ICS will
>> happily share all sorts of connections, even USB modems. With RRAS
>> you can only share something that appears as an interface in the
>> RRAS console. If your external NIC gets a public IP from your ISP,
>> everything should be OK. You can just use that as your public
>> interface. If it is a PPPoE setup you will need to use the PPPoE
>> interface as the public interface for NAT.
>>
>> Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
>>> If you are simply trying to give clients Internet access and RRAS is
>>> configured correctly, then clients should have a default gateway =
>>> IP address of Nic2. On the server, Nic2 should have no default
>>> gateway. There is no obvious need for a static route in this
>>> scenario.
>>>
>>> Doug Shermaan
>>> MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
>>>
>>> "NuBee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:197616BE-795D-46EB-95BC-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I have a win2003 SP1 file server-IIS6.0 web server-DNS server. It
>>>> has dual NICs. Nic1 is public (w/static IP, connected via DSL
>>>> modem) and Nic2 is private (DHCP, wireless internal network with
>>>> winXP machines connected).
>>>>
>>>> I already tried ICS and there are issues with ICS and win2003 SP1
>>>> that are not resolved.
>>>>
>>>> So, The MS newsgroup people have said to make my server a RRAS
>>>> server.
>>> Ok,
>>>> I did that by configuring the RRAS server via Administrative Tools
>>>>>> Routing and Remote Access snap-in. I hope I did this correctly??
>>>>
>>>> Then someone said to: "Setup a static route on the DSL router for
>>>> you internal wireless lan network that sends it to Nic1 address".
>>>> Well, ok, what does that mean and how do I do this thru the RRAS
>>>> snap-in?????????????
>>>>
>>>> In the RRAS snap-in, I see ServerName>>IP Routing>>Static Routes.
>>>> But, I don't know what to do next. Need some step-by-step help
>>>> here! Any articles to guide me in this????
>>>> --
>>>> NuBee



 
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      06-11-2006, 05:51 PM
OK - you do not have a DSL modem, you have a modem/router. Evidently, the
people who gave you the static route advice were aware of this. What was
contemplated was that you would configure the static route on the router and
you would enable routing but NOT NAT on the server. If the IP addresss for
NIC 2 is 192.168.1.x, neither straight routing nor NAT will work. Your
adapters must be on different subnets.

Doug Shermaan
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP


"NuBee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1775F5D0-A11D-47EA-8BD8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you gentlemen for your help. The default gateway is Nic2 IP address
> for the clients, so that doesn't appear to be the problem. THe setup is
> PPPoE, so does that mean that I need to use the IP of the DSL modem. For
> example, let's say the DSL modem assigned the Nic1 an IP address of
> 192.168.1.95, then do I use this IP address????
> --
> NuBee
>
>
> "Bill Grant" wrote:
>
> > The other problem you may face with RRAS rather than ICS is that

RRAS is
> > a bit more choosy about the public connection. ICS will happily share

all
> > sorts of connections, even USB modems. With RRAS you can only share
> > something that appears as an interface in the RRAS console. If your

external
> > NIC gets a public IP from your ISP, everything should be OK. You can

just
> > use that as your public interface. If it is a PPPoE setup you will need

to
> > use the PPPoE interface as the public interface for NAT.
> >
> > Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
> > > If you are simply trying to give clients Internet access and RRAS is
> > > configured correctly, then clients should have a default gateway = IP
> > > address of Nic2. On the server, Nic2 should have no default gateway.
> > > There is no obvious need for a static route in this scenario.
> > >
> > > Doug Shermaan
> > > MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
> > >
> > > "NuBee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:197616BE-795D-46EB-95BC-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> I have a win2003 SP1 file server-IIS6.0 web server-DNS server. It
> > >> has dual NICs. Nic1 is public (w/static IP, connected via DSL
> > >> modem) and Nic2 is private (DHCP, wireless internal network with
> > >> winXP machines connected).
> > >>
> > >> I already tried ICS and there are issues with ICS and win2003 SP1
> > >> that are not resolved.
> > >>
> > >> So, The MS newsgroup people have said to make my server a RRAS
> > >> server.
> > > Ok,
> > >> I did that by configuring the RRAS server via Administrative Tools
> > >> >> Routing and Remote Access snap-in. I hope I did this correctly??
> > >>
> > >> Then someone said to: "Setup a static route on the DSL router for
> > >> you internal wireless lan network that sends it to Nic1 address".
> > >> Well, ok, what does that mean and how do I do this thru the RRAS
> > >> snap-in?????????????
> > >>
> > >> In the RRAS snap-in, I see ServerName>>IP Routing>>Static Routes.
> > >> But, I don't know what to do next. Need some step-by-step help
> > >> here! Any articles to guide me in this????
> > >> --
> > >> NuBee

> >
> >
> >



 
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