Win ME and WIN XP Pro networking

Similar problems here. Two machines, XP and ME on a
wireless network. For awhile, I could see the ME on the
XP machine but not the files. Problem was Zone Alarm
firewall being installed. Even though it wasn't running,
I couldn't see the files. I removed Zone Alarm and that
problem went away.

The second issue is I have a printer on the XP that I want
to share with the ME. ME cannot browse the network to be
able to install the printer. Nor can the ME see any of
the XP files. File sharing is enabled on the XP and the
XP firewall is off. The printer is set to share. Bith
machines have the same workhroup name. And both machines
can access the web and ping each other.

Even changed the protocols from TCP/IP to netBUI. No
change. Spent 4 1/2 hours on the phone with Dell trying
to resolve this issue. No luck. Followed the windows KB
articles re registry settings. No luck.

The only solution it appears to be is to load XP on the ME
machine and see what happens.

I'm open to suggestions.

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"Brian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:01f301c37725$11d9fd60$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Similar problems here. Two machines, XP and ME on a
> wireless network. For awhile, I could see the ME on the
> XP machine but not the files. Problem was Zone Alarm
> firewall being installed. Even though it wasn't running,
> I couldn't see the files. I removed Zone Alarm and that
> problem went away.
>
> The second issue is I have a printer on the XP that I want
> to share with the ME. ME cannot browse the network to be
> able to install the printer. Nor can the ME see any of
> the XP files. File sharing is enabled on the XP and the
> XP firewall is off. The printer is set to share. Bith
> machines have the same workhroup name. And both machines
> can access the web and ping each other.
>
> Even changed the protocols from TCP/IP to netBUI. No
> change. Spent 4 1/2 hours on the phone with Dell trying
> to resolve this issue. No luck. Followed the windows KB
> articles re registry settings. No luck.
>
> The only solution it appears to be is to load XP on the ME
> machine and see what happens.
>
> I'm open to suggestions.

You need to connect to XP with existing credentials since it doesn't support
anonymous logons (note the disabled guest account). It's safer to create a
new user, or connect as an existing user rather than allow anonymous
connections to XP. Then you can just logon as new user on WinME and access
the preconfigured shares. You'll also want to add the WinME drivers to the
printer share.

"Brian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:01f301c37725$11d9fd60$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Similar problems here. Two machines, XP and ME on a
> wireless network. For awhile, I could see the ME on the
> XP machine but not the files. Problem was Zone Alarm
> firewall being installed. Even though it wasn't running,
> I couldn't see the files. I removed Zone Alarm and that
> problem went away.
>
> The second issue is I have a printer on the XP that I want
> to share with the ME. ME cannot browse the network to be
> able to install the printer. Nor can the ME see any of
> the XP files. File sharing is enabled on the XP and the
> XP firewall is off. The printer is set to share. Bith
> machines have the same workhroup name. And both machines
> can access the web and ping each other.
>
> Even changed the protocols from TCP/IP to netBUI. No
> change. Spent 4 1/2 hours on the phone with Dell trying
> to resolve this issue. No luck. Followed the windows KB
> articles re registry settings. No luck.
>
> The only solution it appears to be is to load XP on the ME
> machine and see what happens.
>
> I'm open to suggestions.

In article <MPv7b.2959$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Salt_Peter"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>In article <01f301c37725$11d9fd60$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Brian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>Similar problems here. Two machines, XP and ME on a
>>>wireless network. For awhile, I could see the ME on the
>>>XP machine but not the files. Problem was Zone Alarm
>>>firewall being installed. Even though it wasn't running,
>>>I couldn't see the files. I removed Zone Alarm and that
>>>problem went away.
>>>
>>>The second issue is I have a printer on the XP that I want
>>>to share with the ME. ME cannot browse the network to be
>>>able to install the printer. Nor can the ME see any of
>>>the XP files. File sharing is enabled on the XP and the
>>>XP firewall is off. The printer is set to share. Bith
>>>machines have the same workhroup name. And both machines
>>>can access the web and ping each other.
>>>
>>>Even changed the protocols from TCP/IP to netBUI. No
>>>change. Spent 4 1/2 hours on the phone with Dell trying
>>>to resolve this issue. No luck. Followed the windows KB
>>>articles re registry settings. No luck.
>>>
>>>The only solution it appears to be is to load XP on the ME
>>>machine and see what happens.
>>>
>>>I'm open to suggestions.

>You need to connect to XP with existing credentials since it doesn't support
>anonymous logons (note the disabled guest account). It's safer to create a
>new user, or connect as an existing user rather than allow anonymous
>connections to XP. Then you can just logon as new user on WinME and access
>the preconfigured shares. You'll also want to add the WinME drivers to the
>printer share.

I don't think that the access problems that Brian described could be
caused by problems with credentials. Problems with credentials don't
prevent a computer from browsing the network. Problems with
credentials don't make a shared resource invisible -- they cause a
prompt for user name and/or password when you try to access a shared
resource.

You can't generalize about the role of credentials in Windows XP
network access. The behavior depends on:

1. Domain vs. workgroup
2. Home Edition vs. Professional
3. NTFS vs. FAT
4. Whether "simple file sharing" is enabled.

In a workgroup, the default setting for both Home Edition and
Professional is to allow access to shared resources by all users on
all computers.

It's never necessary to have matching user accounts in order to access
XP's Home Edition's shared resources.

In a workgroup, you can disable "simple file sharing" in Windows XP
Professional, which causes it to use the NT/2000 access model on NTFS
disk partitions. That's the only situation in which Windows XP
requires matching user accounts.

Enabling or disabling the Guest account in Control Panel | User
Accounts has no effect on networked access to XP. It only determines
whether someone can log on as Guest from the keyboard.
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In article <01f301c37725$11d9fd60$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Brian"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Similar problems here. Two machines, XP and ME on a
>wireless network. For awhile, I could see the ME on the
>XP machine but not the files. Problem was Zone Alarm
>firewall being installed. Even though it wasn't running,
>I couldn't see the files. I removed Zone Alarm and that
>problem went away.
>
>The second issue is I have a printer on the XP that I want
>to share with the ME. ME cannot browse the network to be
>able to install the printer. Nor can the ME see any of
>the XP files. File sharing is enabled on the XP and the
>XP firewall is off. The printer is set to share. Bith
>machines have the same workhroup name. And both machines
>can access the web and ping each other.
>
>Even changed the protocols from TCP/IP to netBUI. No
>change. Spent 4 1/2 hours on the phone with Dell trying
>to resolve this issue. No luck. Followed the windows KB
>articles re registry settings. No luck.
>
>The only solution it appears to be is to load XP on the ME
>machine and see what happens.
>
>I'm open to suggestions.

XP and ME can network with each other just fine, Brian. Something is
wrong with the network settings.

Remove NetBEUI from both computers. Using more than one network
protocol is more likely to cause problems than to solve them,
especially when XP is involved.

What KB articles did you follow?

Make sure that the printer's share name isn't longer than 12
characters. If it is, ME can't see the printer.

What happens when you try to browse the network on ME? How are you
trying to browse, and what does the error message say?

The problem could be that you're not logged on. If there's a logon
prompt when ME starts, don't cancel it. Complete the logon by
entering a user name and, optionally, a password. If there's no logon
prompt, click Start | Log Off or Start | Shut Down | Close all
programs... and log back on. If that makes network browsing work
properly, the most likely fix is to go to this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Thanks to all for the advice.

Following Carey's tips, I still had no luck. I did #3, 6,
22. No change. Then I removed NETBUI. No change.

The puzzling part was that ME was not asking for a logon.

Following Steve's advice, I logged off and logged back on
as guest. Presto! Everything worked.

Went back and deleted the autologon entry in the registry
and everything comes up roses.

Thanks, Steve!

In article <06df01c377ad$44f43b10$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Brian"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Thanks to all for the advice.
>
>Following Carey's tips, I still had no luck. I did #3, 6,
>22. No change. Then I removed NETBUI. No change.
>
>The puzzling part was that ME was not asking for a logon.
>
>Following Steve's advice, I logged off and logged back on
>as guest. Presto! Everything worked.
>
>Went back and deleted the autologon entry in the registry
>and everything comes up roses.
>
>Thanks, Steve!

You're welcome, Brian. I'm glad that my suggestion helped you solve
the problem. Thanks for letting us know the result.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
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