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      10-21-2005, 07:20 PM
My network has two computers, Desktop with XP and IBM laptop with Win 98.
Broadband through a router (not wireless). The message I get from the IBM is
- Cannot browse the network. The desktop can see the IBM, look at all files,
and completely access the IBM and all of its contents. The IBM cannot see
anything on the network. I have gone through all the troubleshooters,
checked the clients, installed cards, etc., and even get the message that the
network is setup and working, but despite this, I cannot look at or share
files and printers (they are both enabled on the IBM). The network worked
once but no longer. And, by the way, I can access the Internet from the IBM,
but not the local network. Can anyone suggest where the problem lies and its
solution? I would appreciate any help.

I had XP on the IBM but it took up too much disk space. Help.
 
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      10-21-2005, 07:32 PM

"The Doctor" <The (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:97D252F7-02EA-45C6-8780-(E-Mail Removed)...
> My network has two computers, Desktop with XP and IBM laptop with Win 98.
> Broadband through a router (not wireless). The message I get from the IBM
> is
> - Cannot browse the network. The desktop can see the IBM, look at all
> files,
> and completely access the IBM and all of its contents. The IBM cannot see
> anything on the network. I have gone through all the troubleshooters,
> checked the clients, installed cards, etc., and even get the message that
> the
> network is setup and working, but despite this, I cannot look at or share
> files and printers (they are both enabled on the IBM). The network worked
> once but no longer. And, by the way, I can access the Internet from the
> IBM,
> but not the local network. Can anyone suggest where the problem lies and
> its
> solution? I would appreciate any help.
>
> I had XP on the IBM but it took up too much disk space. Help.


Try setting up a user on the XP PC with the same username and password as
used on the W98 laptop


 
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      10-21-2005, 07:47 PM
In article <97D252F7-02EA-45C6-8780-(E-Mail Removed)>, "The
Doctor" <The (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>My network has two computers, Desktop with XP and IBM laptop with Win 98.
>Broadband through a router (not wireless). The message I get from the IBM is
>- Cannot browse the network. The desktop can see the IBM, look at all files,
>and completely access the IBM and all of its contents. The IBM cannot see
>anything on the network. I have gone through all the troubleshooters,
>checked the clients, installed cards, etc., and even get the message that the
>network is setup and working, but despite this, I cannot look at or share
>files and printers (they are both enabled on the IBM). The network worked
>once but no longer. And, by the way, I can access the Internet from the IBM,
>but not the local network. Can anyone suggest where the problem lies and its
>solution? I would appreciate any help.
>
>I had XP on the IBM but it took up too much disk space. Help.


It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer starts up before network
browsing works. During that time, you should be able to access
another computer by typing the other computer's name in the Start |
Run box preceded by two backslash characters:

\\computer

If that doesn't work, here are two common reasons for the inability to
browse the network:

1. The network settings are configured for user-level access control,
which isn't available in a peer-to-peer network. Go to Control Panel
| Network, click the Access Control tab, and make sure that
share-level access control is selected.

2. The user isn't logged on. Is there a logon prompt when Windows 98
starts? If so, don't cancel it. Complete the logon by entering a
user name and, optionally, a password. If there's no logon prompt,
click Start | Log Off and log back on. If that makes network browsing
work properly, the most likely fix is to go to this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon

Please see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles for more
information:

"Unable to Browse the Network" When You Click Network Neighborhood
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;260214

No Windows or Network Logon Dialog Box at Startup
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=KB;en-us;141858
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
 
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      10-21-2005, 07:57 PM
In article <djbfo8$fpe$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Tony"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>"The Doctor" <The (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:97D252F7-02EA-45C6-8780-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> My network has two computers, Desktop with XP and IBM laptop with Win 98.
>> Broadband through a router (not wireless). The message I get from the IBM
>> is
>> - Cannot browse the network. The desktop can see the IBM, look at all
>> files,
>> and completely access the IBM and all of its contents. The IBM cannot see
>> anything on the network. I have gone through all the troubleshooters,
>> checked the clients, installed cards, etc., and even get the message that
>> the
>> network is setup and working, but despite this, I cannot look at or share
>> files and printers (they are both enabled on the IBM). The network worked
>> once but no longer. And, by the way, I can access the Internet from the
>> IBM,
>> but not the local network. Can anyone suggest where the problem lies and
>> its
>> solution? I would appreciate any help.
>>
>> I had XP on the IBM but it took up too much disk space. Help.

>
>Try setting up a user on the XP PC with the same username and password as
>used on the W98 laptop


The "Cannot browse the network" message on Win 98 has nothing to do
with user names and passwords on the XP PC.

Matching user names and passwords are never necessary to browse a
Windows network.

The problem is probably that the user isn't logged on at all on Win
98. In that case, logging on with any user name and password will fix
it.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
 
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      10-25-2005, 01:21 AM
I'm having a somewhat similar problem, only my windows 98 workstations are on
the network. There's this 1 server that they used to have a drive mapped to
a share on this server.

This server just got rebuilt, and now the windows 98 machines can't access
it. When going through windows explorer they can see the server, but when
they click on it to map their network drive to the share, they get
"Servername is not accessable".

If trying net use x:\\servername\sharename they get error 53 with verbage
that pretty much means the same thing as above.

The odd thing about this is the windows 98 machines can even ping this
server. I can't figure out what to try next. Since the server was rebuilt,
something is missing, but I am fresh out of ideas as to what it could be.

I noticed the comment you made in the last post about clicking on the access
control tab and make sure that share-level access control is selected on the
windows 98 client, do you think that would fix my problem? The worst thing
about my problem is that these machines are running instruments and rebooting
them isn't an option most of the time. I'm not sure if a reboot would be
required for that type of change.


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article <97D252F7-02EA-45C6-8780-(E-Mail Removed)>, "The
> Doctor" <The (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >My network has two computers, Desktop with XP and IBM laptop with Win 98.
> >Broadband through a router (not wireless). The message I get from the IBM is
> >- Cannot browse the network. The desktop can see the IBM, look at all files,
> >and completely access the IBM and all of its contents. The IBM cannot see
> >anything on the network. I have gone through all the troubleshooters,
> >checked the clients, installed cards, etc., and even get the message that the
> >network is setup and working, but despite this, I cannot look at or share
> >files and printers (they are both enabled on the IBM). The network worked
> >once but no longer. And, by the way, I can access the Internet from the IBM,
> >but not the local network. Can anyone suggest where the problem lies and its
> >solution? I would appreciate any help.
> >
> >I had XP on the IBM but it took up too much disk space. Help.

>
> It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer starts up before network
> browsing works. During that time, you should be able to access
> another computer by typing the other computer's name in the Start |
> Run box preceded by two backslash characters:
>
> \\computer
>
> If that doesn't work, here are two common reasons for the inability to
> browse the network:
>
> 1. The network settings are configured for user-level access control,
> which isn't available in a peer-to-peer network. Go to Control Panel
> | Network, click the Access Control tab, and make sure that
> share-level access control is selected.
>
> 2. The user isn't logged on. Is there a logon prompt when Windows 98
> starts? If so, don't cancel it. Complete the logon by entering a
> user name and, optionally, a password. If there's no logon prompt,
> click Start | Log Off and log back on. If that makes network browsing
> work properly, the most likely fix is to go to this registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> Network\Real Mode Net
>
> and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:
>
> http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
>
> Please see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles for more
> information:
>
> "Unable to Browse the Network" When You Click Network Neighborhood
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;260214
>
> No Windows or Network Logon Dialog Box at Startup
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=KB;en-us;141858
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>

 
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      06-02-2006, 10:18 PM

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <97D252F7-02EA-45C6-8780-(E-Mail Removed)>, "The
> Doctor" <The (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>My network has two computers, Desktop with XP and IBM laptop with Win 98.
>>Broadband through a router (not wireless). The message I get from the IBM
>>is
>>- Cannot browse the network. The desktop can see the IBM, look at all
>>files,
>>and completely access the IBM and all of its contents. The IBM cannot see
>>anything on the network. I have gone through all the troubleshooters,
>>checked the clients, installed cards, etc., and even get the message that
>>the
>>network is setup and working, but despite this, I cannot look at or share
>>files and printers (they are both enabled on the IBM). The network worked
>>once but no longer. And, by the way, I can access the Internet from the
>>IBM,
>>but not the local network. Can anyone suggest where the problem lies and
>>its
>>solution? I would appreciate any help.
>>
>>I had XP on the IBM but it took up too much disk space. Help.

>
> It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer starts up before network
> browsing works. During that time, you should be able to access
> another computer by typing the other computer's name in the Start |
> Run box preceded by two backslash characters:
>
> \\computer
>
> If that doesn't work, here are two common reasons for the inability to
> browse the network:
>
> 1. The network settings are configured for user-level access control,
> which isn't available in a peer-to-peer network. Go to Control Panel
> | Network, click the Access Control tab, and make sure that
> share-level access control is selected.
>
> 2. The user isn't logged on. Is there a logon prompt when Windows 98
> starts? If so, don't cancel it. Complete the logon by entering a
> user name and, optionally, a password. If there's no logon prompt,
> click Start | Log Off and log back on. If that makes network browsing
> work properly, the most likely fix is to go to this registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> Network\Real Mode Net
>
> and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:
>
> http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
>
> Please see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles for more
> information:
>
> "Unable to Browse the Network" When You Click Network Neighborhood
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;260214
>
> No Windows or Network Logon Dialog Box at Startup
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=KB;en-us;141858
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm


This is just the problem I'm having now. Thanks for much good info.

As it turns out, the above wasn't my problem, but your info helped me
eliminate things that might have been.

On my Dell Inspiron laptop I'm running Windows 98 SE with the free version
of ZoneAlarm firewall (hey my laptop is ancient, all of 6 or 6 years old).
It seems that the firewall is interfering with LAN access. I can see my
desktop (Windows XP) when I turn off the laptop firewall, and that the
network disappears when I turn it back on. So far as I can tell ZA's
settings are ok.

Any ideas?





 
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      06-05-2006, 07:14 PM


"Harry Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <97D252F7-02EA-45C6-8780-(E-Mail Removed)>, "The
>> Doctor" <The (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>My network has two computers, Desktop with XP and IBM laptop with Win 98.
>>>Broadband through a router (not wireless). The message I get from the
>>>IBM is
>>>- Cannot browse the network. The desktop can see the IBM, look at all
>>>files,
>>>and completely access the IBM and all of its contents. The IBM cannot
>>>see
>>>anything on the network. I have gone through all the troubleshooters,
>>>checked the clients, installed cards, etc., and even get the message that
>>>the
>>>network is setup and working, but despite this, I cannot look at or
>>>share
>>>files and printers (they are both enabled on the IBM). The network
>>>worked
>>>once but no longer. And, by the way, I can access the Internet from the
>>>IBM,
>>>but not the local network. Can anyone suggest where the problem lies and
>>>its
>>>solution? I would appreciate any help.
>>>
>>>I had XP on the IBM but it took up too much disk space. Help.

>>
>> It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer starts up before network
>> browsing works. During that time, you should be able to access
>> another computer by typing the other computer's name in the Start |
>> Run box preceded by two backslash characters:
>>
>> \\computer
>>
>> If that doesn't work, here are two common reasons for the inability to
>> browse the network:
>>
>> 1. The network settings are configured for user-level access control,
>> which isn't available in a peer-to-peer network. Go to Control Panel
>> | Network, click the Access Control tab, and make sure that
>> share-level access control is selected.
>>
>> 2. The user isn't logged on. Is there a logon prompt when Windows 98
>> starts? If so, don't cancel it. Complete the logon by entering a
>> user name and, optionally, a password. If there's no logon prompt,
>> click Start | Log Off and log back on. If that makes network browsing
>> work properly, the most likely fix is to go to this registry key:
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
>> Network\Real Mode Net
>>
>> and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:
>>
>> http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
>>
>> Please see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles for more
>> information:
>>
>> "Unable to Browse the Network" When You Click Network Neighborhood
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;260214
>>
>> No Windows or Network Logon Dialog Box at Startup
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=KB;en-us;141858
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>
>> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

>
> This is just the problem I'm having now. Thanks for much good info.
>
> As it turns out, the above wasn't my problem, but your info helped me
> eliminate things that might have been.
>
> On my Dell Inspiron laptop I'm running Windows 98 SE with the free version
> of ZoneAlarm firewall (hey my laptop is ancient, all of 6 or 6 years old).
> It seems that the firewall is interfering with LAN access. I can see my
> desktop (Windows XP) when I turn off the laptop firewall, and that the
> network disappears when I turn it back on. So far as I can tell ZA's
> settings are ok.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
>
>


many people have had success in a problem like yours by uninstalling then
reinstalling ZA ...I know it doesn't sound correct , but it does seem to
work in alot of cases ...worth a try :>


 
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