Wikipedia Censorship

Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
if you are affected by going to the following url:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer

If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
reported to work for those affected by the filter.

More information is on the report at
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.

It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
applied to the proxy's address.

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:31:56 UTC, Chris Hills <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
> Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
> if you are affected by going to the following url:-
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer
>
> If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
> reported to work for those affected by the filter.
>
> More information is on the report at
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.
>
> It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
> through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
> applied to the proxy's address.

Bloody typical. The IWF is a menace. Such covers are hardly new. This
one is even older (almost 40 years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Faith_(album)
--
Bob Eager
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

"Chris Hills" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ghf21d$1v1$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
> Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell if
> you are affected by going to the following url:-
>
Yes, it's all been publicised before and on many newsgroups today. very
boring attempt
to get a grou publicity. It has a picture of a young girl on the front,
that's all.
I think the IWF should pay more attention to companies and users of
uncensored
newsgroups. One major ISP in London used to advertise uncensored news at a
cost,
then reported every user of the porn groups to police, which isn't a bad
thing.
They were well known for blowing their own trumpet, or was it clarinet!
Another ISP that hosted a police web site in the mid 90's also used to offer
uncensored groups, even Demon supplied access to them. Talk about turning a
blind
eye. Why suddenly re companies bothered about censorship, is it just an
excuse to
reduce the amount of bandwidth!

On 07/12/08 20:26, Andy Burns wrote:
> Indeed, whether it is porn or mere nudity, I'll leave to someone else to
> decide, but the risk is it does more harm to wikipedia than it can
> possibly do good, considering how many other ways there are to find
> album artwork, such as ... say amazon ...

I for one would like the same filter to apply to Amazon. Not because I
agree with it, but because Amazon is a lot more likely to do something
about it than Wikimedia Foundation, whose position is that they don't care.

Chris Hills wrote:

> Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
> Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
> if you are affected by going to the following url:-
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer

No problem here, but I'd hardly expect IDNet to censor.Wouldn't an
alternative DNS fix the problem ?

Graham

Bob Eager wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:31:56 UTC, Chris Hills <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
> > Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
> > if you are affected by going to the following url:-
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer
> >
> > If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
> > reported to work for those affected by the filter.
> >
> > More information is on the report at
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.
> >
> > It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
> > through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
> > applied to the proxy's address.
>
> Bloody typical. The IWF is a menace. Such covers are hardly new. This
> one is even older (almost 40 years)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_Faith_(album)

You beat me to it.

Graham

Chris Hills wrote:
> Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
> Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
> if you are affected by going to the following url:-
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer
>
> If you get a 404 pate, you can try the alternate url,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Virgin_Killer which has been
> reported to work for those affected by the filter.
>
> More information is on the report at
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569.
>
> It is causing problems since when everyone from an ISP gets forced
> through a transparent proxy, they become subject to the filters that get
> applied to the proxy's address.


Hmmm, I tried this a few months ago and it wasn't blocked, now it is.

I'm quite honestly amazed.

Am I the only one that doesn't find this image offensive, and thinks
that everyone who does it completely batshit insane?

Eeyore wrote:
>
> Chris Hills wrote:
>
>> Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
>> Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
>> if you are affected by going to the following url:-
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer
>
> No problem here, but I'd hardly expect IDNet to censor.Wouldn't an
> alternative DNS fix the problem ?
>

Nope, not here on OpenDNS anyway.
I didn't think Be* had the resources (I'm on O2 Broadband).

I'd complain about childish censorship, but I'd be branded a paedophile
and probably lose my computer while DA POH-LEESE try to make sense of a
Linux file system.

On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:32:23 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't an alternative DNS fix the problem ?
>
> No, the ISPs are intercepting all traffic to the wikipedia servers
> (based on IP address presumably) and forcing it through a transparent
> proxy which filters out one or two URLs.

Is this er, at 'our end' then?
I have the portable version of Opera Tor and use TreeWalk DNS - would that
do it?
--
Peter.
You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion?
It's not rocket science, you know.

Eeyore wrote:
>
> Chris Hills wrote:
>
>> Apparently, some ISP's in the UK are now censoring Wikipedia, since the
>> Internet Watch Foundation listed a web page to be blocked. You can tell
>> if you are affected by going to the following url:-
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer
>
> No problem here, but I'd hardly expect IDNet to censor.Wouldn't an
> alternative DNS fix the problem ?
>
> Graham
>

IDNet is a member of The Internet Watch Foundation ("IWF").

If IDNET don't censor why belong to an organisation whose purpose is
censorship. (secret censorship at that).