wifi router - are you connected yet? no? grrr!

Hi all,
Is there some software out there that will give me a real time progress
report from the router when it is connecting to the internet?

Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected to the router
with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to tell if the router
has connected to the ISP yet without launching a web application (like the
browser for example).

Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my confused
user sees a connection to the router then fails to download a web page
because the router has not yet connected to the ISP.

This happens first thing when the router and the computer are powered up at
the same time.

regards
code_wrong

"code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time progress
> report from the router when it is connecting to the internet?
>
> Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected to the router
> with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to tell if the router
> has connected to the ISP yet without launching a web application (like the
> browser for example).
>
> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my confused
> user sees a connection to the router then fails to download a web page
> because the router has not yet connected to the ISP.
>
> This happens first thing when the router and the computer are powered up
> at the same time.

Have the user use common sense and figure it out.

"Mr. Arnold" <MR. (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B9KdneeoRM3MzYXVnZ2dnUVZ_s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi all,
>> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time progress
>> report from the router when it is connecting to the internet?
>>
>> Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected to the router
>> with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to tell if the router
>> has connected to the ISP yet without launching a web application (like
>> the browser for example).
>>
>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my
>> confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to download a
>> web page because the router has not yet connected to the ISP.
>>
>> This happens first thing when the router and the computer are powered up
>> at the same time.
>
> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>

Sometimes they just don't get it.
but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more than just
novice users.
I would use it before I logged into the router to check a connection. It
would serve the same purpose I guess.

code_wrong wrote:
> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:B9KdneeoRM3MzYXVnZ2dnUVZ_s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hi all,
>>> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time progress
>>> report from the router when it is connecting to the internet?
>>>
>>> Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected to the router
>>> with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to tell if the router
>>> has connected to the ISP yet without launching a web application (like
>>> the browser for example).
>>>
>>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my
>>> confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to download a
>>> web page because the router has not yet connected to the ISP.
>>>
>>> This happens first thing when the router and the computer are powered up
>>> at the same time.
>> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>>
>
> Sometimes they just don't get it.
> but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more than just
> novice users.
> I would use it before I logged into the router to check a connection. It
> would serve the same purpose I guess.
>
>
>
>
You didn't mention the make and model of the router nor was there any
mention of switching on a modem so is this a combo modem/ router? If it
is why does he not check the lights to see if he is connected to his ISP
before he uses his computer?

"LR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> code_wrong wrote:
>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:B9KdneeoRM3MzYXVnZ2dnUVZ_s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time progress
>>>> report from the router when it is connecting to the internet?
>>>>
>>>> Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected to the
>>>> router with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to tell if
>>>> the router has connected to the ISP yet without launching a web
>>>> application (like the browser for example).
>>>>
>>>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my
>>>> confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to download a
>>>> web page because the router has not yet connected to the ISP.
>>>>
>>>> This happens first thing when the router and the computer are powered
>>>> up at the same time.
>>> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes they just don't get it.
>> but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more than just
>> novice users.
>> I would use it before I logged into the router to check a connection. It
>> would serve the same purpose I guess.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> You didn't mention the make and model of the router nor was there any
> mention of switching on a modem so is this a combo modem/ router? If it is
> why does he not check the lights to see if he is connected to his ISP
> before he uses his computer?

Thanks I think that may be enough
It's a Buffalo WBMR-G54 modem/router .. According to the manual the status
light should blink green ..
I'll let the user grapple with this new info

code_wrong wrote:
>
>>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my
>>> confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to download a
>>> web page because the router has not yet connected to the ISP.
>>>
>> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>
> Sometimes they just don't get it.

Hit them with a clue-by-four till they get it.
Seriously tho, the answer is to educate them, not provide them with an
extra diaper and comforter. Just think, one day they;ll move to some
other organization and _still_ be clueless.

> but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more than just
> novice users.

You could write a shell script to ping your isp, and as soon as the
pings started returning you could pop up an alert.

Or you could leave the router running 24x7, like they're designed to be...

code_wrong wrote:
> "LR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> code_wrong wrote:
>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:B9KdneeoRM3MzYXVnZ2dnUVZ_s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> "code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time
>>>>> progress report from the router when it is connecting to the
>>>>> internet? Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected
>>>>> to the
>>>>> router with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to
>>>>> tell if the router has connected to the ISP yet without launching
>>>>> a web application (like the browser for example).
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my
>>>>> confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to
>>>>> download a web page because the router has not yet connected to
>>>>> the ISP. This happens first thing when the router and the computer are
>>>>> powered up at the same time.
>>>> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes they just don't get it.
>>> but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more than
>>> just novice users.
>>> I would use it before I logged into the router to check a
>>> connection. It would serve the same purpose I guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You didn't mention the make and model of the router nor was there any
>> mention of switching on a modem so is this a combo modem/ router? If
>> it is why does he not check the lights to see if he is connected to
>> his ISP before he uses his computer?
>
> Thanks I think that may be enough
> It's a Buffalo WBMR-G54 modem/router .. According to the manual the
> status light should blink green ..
> I'll let the user grapple with this new info

is this in the UK ?

anyway - it looks like a ADSL router,
which means if it is powered off every day,
and then back on - the DSL line must be re-ramped every day.
Your user/client is starting off the morning with the slowest speed,
and may never reach their potential - as the ADSL device gets turned off
again.

"ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> code_wrong wrote:
>> "LR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> code_wrong wrote:
>>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:B9KdneeoRM3MzYXVnZ2dnUVZ_s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> "code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time
>>>>>> progress report from the router when it is connecting to the
>>>>>> internet? Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> router with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to
>>>>>> tell if the router has connected to the ISP yet without launching
>>>>>> a web application (like the browser for example).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my
>>>>>> confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to
>>>>>> download a web page because the router has not yet connected to
>>>>>> the ISP. This happens first thing when the router and the computer
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> powered up at the same time.
>>>>> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes they just don't get it.
>>>> but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more than
>>>> just novice users.
>>>> I would use it before I logged into the router to check a
>>>> connection. It would serve the same purpose I guess.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You didn't mention the make and model of the router nor was there any
>>> mention of switching on a modem so is this a combo modem/ router? If
>>> it is why does he not check the lights to see if he is connected to
>>> his ISP before he uses his computer?
>>
>> Thanks I think that may be enough
>> It's a Buffalo WBMR-G54 modem/router .. According to the manual the
>> status light should blink green ..
>> I'll let the user grapple with this new info
>
> is this in the UK ?
>
> anyway - it looks like a ADSL router,
> which means if it is powered off every day,
> and then back on - the DSL line must be re-ramped every day.
> Your user/client is starting off the morning with the slowest speed,
> and may never reach their potential - as the ADSL device gets turned off
> again.


Yes uk, and you're right it is an ADSL router/modem.
I have not heard of ramping the DSL line
got a link?

code_wrong wrote:
> "ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4zkSj.1080$(E-Mail Removed) ...
>> code_wrong wrote:
>>> "LR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> code_wrong wrote:
>>>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:B9KdneeoRM3MzYXVnZ2dnUVZ_s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> "code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time
>>>>>>> progress report from the router when it is connecting to the
>>>>>>> internet? Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has connected
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> router with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to
>>>>>>> tell if the router has connected to the ISP yet without launching
>>>>>>> a web application (like the browser for example).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where my
>>>>>>> confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to
>>>>>>> download a web page because the router has not yet connected to
>>>>>>> the ISP. This happens first thing when the router and the computer
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> powered up at the same time.
>>>>>> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes they just don't get it.
>>>>> but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more than
>>>>> just novice users.
>>>>> I would use it before I logged into the router to check a
>>>>> connection. It would serve the same purpose I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You didn't mention the make and model of the router nor was there any
>>>> mention of switching on a modem so is this a combo modem/ router? If
>>>> it is why does he not check the lights to see if he is connected to
>>>> his ISP before he uses his computer?
>>> Thanks I think that may be enough
>>> It's a Buffalo WBMR-G54 modem/router .. According to the manual the
>>> status light should blink green ..
>>> I'll let the user grapple with this new info
>> is this in the UK ?
>>
>> anyway - it looks like a ADSL router,
>> which means if it is powered off every day,
>> and then back on - the DSL line must be re-ramped every day.
>> Your user/client is starting off the morning with the slowest speed,
>> and may never reach their potential - as the ADSL device gets turned off
>> again.
>
>
> Yes uk, and you're right it is an ADSL router/modem.
> I have not heard of ramping the DSL line
> got a link?
>
>
I am curious about that as well. Before I started with "MaxDSL" DSL line
performance seemed to remain stable and constant no matter how many
times the modem was switched on and off. "MaxDSL" has been another
ballgame altogether.
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/maxdsl2.htm

LR wrote:
> code_wrong wrote:
>> "ps56k" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:4zkSj.1080$(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>> code_wrong wrote:
>>>> "LR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> code_wrong wrote:
>>>>>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. (E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:B9KdneeoRM3MzYXVnZ2dnUVZ_s-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> "code_wrong" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:fv9gh4$2up$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> Is there some software out there that will give me a real time
>>>>>>>> progress report from the router when it is connecting to the
>>>>>>>> internet? Windows indicates that it is connecting, and has
>>>>>>>> connected to the
>>>>>>>> router with the wifi icon in the tray, but there is no way to
>>>>>>>> tell if the router has connected to the ISP yet without
>>>>>>>> launching a web application (like the browser for example).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes I know this is easy, but I want to end the situation where
>>>>>>>> my confused user sees a connection to the router then fails to
>>>>>>>> download a web page because the router has not yet connected to
>>>>>>>> the ISP. This happens first thing when the router and the
>>>>>>>> computer are
>>>>>>>> powered up at the same time.
>>>>>>> Have the user use common sense and figure it out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes they just don't get it.
>>>>>> but I think if such software exists it would be useful to more
>>>>>> than just novice users.
>>>>>> I would use it before I logged into the router to check a
>>>>>> connection. It would serve the same purpose I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> You didn't mention the make and model of the router nor was there
>>>>> any mention of switching on a modem so is this a combo modem/
>>>>> router? If it is why does he not check the lights to see if he is
>>>>> connected to his ISP before he uses his computer?
>>>> Thanks I think that may be enough
>>>> It's a Buffalo WBMR-G54 modem/router .. According to the manual the
>>>> status light should blink green ..
>>>> I'll let the user grapple with this new info
>>> is this in the UK ?
>>>
>>> anyway - it looks like a ADSL router,
>>> which means if it is powered off every day,
>>> and then back on - the DSL line must be re-ramped every day.
>>> Your user/client is starting off the morning with the slowest speed,
>>> and may never reach their potential - as the ADSL device gets
>>> turned off again.
>>
>>
>> Yes uk, and you're right it is an ADSL router/modem.
>> I have not heard of ramping the DSL line
>> got a link?
>>
>>
> I am curious about that as well. Before I started with "MaxDSL" DSL
> line performance seemed to remain stable and constant no matter how
> many times the modem was switched on and off. "MaxDSL" has been
> another ballgame altogether.
> http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/maxdsl2.htm

usually, the DSLAM (the CO mux box) will start the copper wires at a known
speed,
and then try to increase the speed - ramp up - by trying different
configurations,
letting it run for a day - and reset at the next daily maint time to a new
speed,
and then see how the line looks and performs..... then repeat the next day.

If you are powering off your DSL modem - WHY ??
then this ramp-up effort is basically lost every day.