Wifi Pb : Netgear DG834G and cable modem

Hi,

I own a Netgear DG834G (wireless ADSL firewall router :
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/DG834G.php), but i don't have ADSL
anymore but cable instead. I'm trying to diffuse the wifi signal to my pc
laptop (win xp).

I connect the netgear to the cable modem, the SSID is diffused and i success
to connect through wifi on the admin of the modem once it's plugged to the
cable modem... I gave a locale ip to the netgear (192.168.0.10), so by
typing it on a browser i can administrate the router. Here i'm lost, i can
connect to the netgear but can't connect to internet, i guess it's a gateway
problem or subnest mask or what else ?
I think it's possible to connect my laptop to the internet through wifi but
i'm not sure cause it's a modem router and not a "simple" router...

What do you think ?

thanks,
Arnaud

router WAN port (to the DSL modem) was probably setup to connect via ppp to
your DSL provider. you need to turn that off and just use the WAN port (now
connected to the cable modem)as a regular Ethernet port.


"Arnaud" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I own a Netgear DG834G (wireless ADSL firewall router :
> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/DG834G.php), but i don't have ADSL
> anymore but cable instead. I'm trying to diffuse the wifi signal to my pc
> laptop (win xp).
>
> I connect the netgear to the cable modem, the SSID is diffused and i
success
> to connect through wifi on the admin of the modem once it's plugged to the
> cable modem... I gave a locale ip to the netgear (192.168.0.10), so by
> typing it on a browser i can administrate the router. Here i'm lost, i can
> connect to the netgear but can't connect to internet, i guess it's a
gateway
> problem or subnest mask or what else ?
> I think it's possible to connect my laptop to the internet through wifi
but
> i'm not sure cause it's a modem router and not a "simple" router...
>
> What do you think ?
>
> thanks,
> Arnaud
>
>

"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
Dsy4e.4798$(E-Mail Removed)...
> router WAN port (to the DSL modem) was probably setup to connect via ppp
> to
> your DSL provider. you need to turn that off and just use the WAN port
> (now
> connected to the cable modem)as a regular Ethernet port.

Actually i don't use the WAN port any more, my cable modem is connected to
the netgear router through RJ45, i use one of the 4 LAN ports available. The
WAN port is RJ11 format and i can only link the cable modem and the netgear
router through RJ45 wire...

Arnaud

If you are not using the WAn port then you are not using the device as a
router! So you get no protection at all by having a router between the modem
and the computer.

The WAN port is an RJ45 not an RJ11 as you mention.


"Arnaud" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "John" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
> Dsy4e.4798$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > router WAN port (to the DSL modem) was probably setup to connect via ppp
> > to
> > your DSL provider. you need to turn that off and just use the WAN port
> > (now
> > connected to the cable modem)as a regular Ethernet port.
>
> Actually i don't use the WAN port any more, my cable modem is connected to
> the netgear router through RJ45, i use one of the 4 LAN ports available.
The
> WAN port is RJ11 format and i can only link the cable modem and the
netgear
> router through RJ45 wire...
>
> Arnaud
>
>

"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
B1z4e.4848$(E-Mail Removed)...
> If you are not using the WAn port then you are not using the device as a
> router! So you get no protection at all by having a router between the
> modem
> and the computer.

I know i'm not using it as a router, i'm not looking for protection but for
a wifi signal... In a previous configuration (the netgear was connected
through one of his 4 ports LAN to the RJ45 of an internet connected laptop)
I had a wifi signal able to distribute internet to other laptops... Today
the configuration is a bit different since I'm trying to connect it directly
to the cable modem. I'm not sure it can works like that, but i'm trying and
asking for help/advices instead of buying right now another router without
any ADSL modem inside. I'm not a network specialist but i would like to test
before anything else.
I don't care about the firewall capabilities of stuff like that of that
netgear today, i'm "only" trying to make it works as a wifi extension
plugged on my cable modem...

> The WAN port is an RJ45 not an RJ11 as you mention.

No, the WAN port is an RJ11, cf page 2, "physical interface" :
http://kbserver.netgear.com/datashee..._11May2004.pdf

Arnaud

You're right - RJ11. It's got builtin ADSL. Makes sense.

Perhaps your cablemodem and router have their wires crossed - null cable
needed.


"Arnaud" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "John" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
> B1z4e.4848$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > If you are not using the WAn port then you are not using the device as a
> > router! So you get no protection at all by having a router between the
> > modem
> > and the computer.
>
> I know i'm not using it as a router, i'm not looking for protection but
for
> a wifi signal... In a previous configuration (the netgear was connected
> through one of his 4 ports LAN to the RJ45 of an internet connected
laptop)
> I had a wifi signal able to distribute internet to other laptops... Today
> the configuration is a bit different since I'm trying to connect it
directly
> to the cable modem. I'm not sure it can works like that, but i'm trying
and
> asking for help/advices instead of buying right now another router without
> any ADSL modem inside. I'm not a network specialist but i would like to
test
> before anything else.
> I don't care about the firewall capabilities of stuff like that of that
> netgear today, i'm "only" trying to make it works as a wifi extension
> plugged on my cable modem...
>
> > The WAN port is an RJ45 not an RJ11 as you mention.
>
> No, the WAN port is an RJ11, cf page 2, "physical interface" :
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/datashee..._11May2004.pdf
>
> Arnaud
>
>

"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> You're right - RJ11. It's got builtin ADSL. Makes sense.
> Perhaps your cablemodem and router have their wires crossed - null cable
> needed.

Good idea, i'll check.

Thanks for your ideas.
Arnaud

Arnaud

Just in case you don't have it, here is the text from the Reference Manual

"The router incorporates Auto UplinkTM technology. Each local Ethernet port
will automatically sense whether the Ethernet cable plugged into the port
should have a 'normal' connection such as to a computer or an 'uplink'
connection such as to a switch or hub. That port will then configure itself
to the correct configuration. This feature also eliminates the need to worry
about crossover cables, as Auto Uplink will accommodate either type of cable
to make the right connection."

So should work with any patch cable in any port.

Paul R

"Arnaud" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4252a4e3$0$12956$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I own a Netgear DG834G (wireless ADSL firewall router :
> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/DG834G.php), but i don't have ADSL
> anymore but cable instead. I'm trying to diffuse the wifi signal to my pc
> laptop (win xp).
>
> I connect the netgear to the cable modem, the SSID is diffused and i
success
> to connect through wifi on the admin of the modem once it's plugged to the
> cable modem... I gave a locale ip to the netgear (192.168.0.10), so by
> typing it on a browser i can administrate the router. Here i'm lost, i can
> connect to the netgear but can't connect to internet, i guess it's a
gateway
> problem or subnest mask or what else ?
> I think it's possible to connect my laptop to the internet through wifi
but
> i'm not sure cause it's a modem router and not a "simple" router...
>
> What do you think ?
>
> thanks,
> Arnaud
>
>

"Paul R" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Arnaud
> Just in case you don't have it, here is the text from the Reference Manual
....
> So should work with any patch cable in any port.

Thanks, i have the reference manual but didn't noticed that point, I'll try
tonight some other tests, I'll post here the results tomorrow if it works !

Bye
arnaud

"Arnaud" <(E-Mail Removed)> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Thanks, i have the reference manual but didn't noticed that point, I'll
> try tonight some other tests, I'll post here the results tomorrow if it
> works !

So I made some tests... And it works, but i don't really know why
I think the procedure is important, i have to first power on the netgear,
then the cable modem, and activate the wifi connection on the xp laptop.

The netgear settings are quite basic, automatic dns, automatic ip, it owns a
local IP, DHCP is enabled and it distributes an internet IP to the pc laptop
: previously the laptop got a local IP (192.168.x.x) and couldn't connect to
the internet...
I gave to the netgear the cable modem MAC adress, don't know if it's
important or not.

Last problem : the pc laptop is ok now to connect through wifi to internet,
but the apple one, mac osX, got a local IP through wifi DHCP and couldn't
connect...

Arnaud