Wifi Logo or Icon

Is there a logo or icon that is somewhat universally accepted as a
politically correct indication of a WiFi(free/fee) hot spot?

I'm thinking of something that would be accepted by a city/town/state
(specifically the state/federal DOT) for posting at an interstate highway
exit similar to the Hospital *H*.

Not Me wrote:
> Is there a logo or icon that is somewhat universally accepted as a
> politically correct indication of a WiFi(free/fee) hot spot?
>
> I'm thinking of something that would be accepted by a city/town/state
> (specifically the state/federal DOT) for posting at an interstate highway
> exit similar to the Hospital *H*.

There's a logo here

http://www.wi-fi.org/OpenSection/index.asp

<blh_9@<snip>

| > Is there a logo or icon that is somewhat universally accepted as a
| > politically correct indication of a WiFi(free/fee) hot spot?
| >
| > I'm thinking of something that would be accepted by a city/town/state
| > (specifically the state/federal DOT) for posting at an interstate
highway
| > exit similar to the Hospital *H*.
|
| There's a logo here
|
| http://www.wi-fi.org/OpenSection/index.asp

Thanks, I found that one early on. The problem is that it is proprietary
and government agencies will not adopt a proprietary icon for general
information/highway use. A supplier could use a paid placement but the cost
is prohibitive for most hotspots especially if they are 'free' access.

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:57:45 -0400, "Not Me" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Is there a logo or icon that is somewhat universally accepted as a
>politically correct indication of a WiFi(free/fee) hot spot?

Chuckle. The sign I usually see is a home made "Free Wireless" or
"Free Wi-Fi". Various companies such as iPass, T-Mobile, and Boingo
all have stickers that go in the window. There are also "AMD
Hotspots" and other endorsement type signs. I don't think there's any
standard designation.

However, the progressive thinking Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz
County anticipated the problem and offered a solution. After
listening to the tin-foil hat rabble, the planning department decided
that 802.11 somehow posed a heath threat and suggested that every
business establishment with wireless be required to post a suitable
warning sign. Since the proposal did not specify the size and
required text, I offered to design a prototype. It read:
"Warning: 2,400,000 Hertz Transmission Area"
followed by a list of applicable and convoluted FCC rules-n-regs.
Unfortunately, the proposal was dropped by the planning department
before I was able to present my prototype sign. Sigh.

>I'm thinking of something that would be accepted by a city/town/state
>(specifically the state/federal DOT) for posting at an interstate highway
>exit similar to the Hospital *H*.

How about:
"Free Wireless Next Offramp. Sponsored by.... SSID=xxxxxx"
I have no idea what to use for an icon that would be universally
understood. Perhaps a symbolic laptop with an antenna of sorts?

The DOT and state highway agencies have very specific rules and regs
as to what can be seen or posted on a major highway. In Calif, you
have to pay Caltrans to build and setup the signs.
California codes:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/ca...odesection=shc
See Section 229 for "Tourist Oriented Directional Signs" and the
associated bureaucracy.


--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Jeff Liebermann"
|
| >Is there a logo or icon that is somewhat universally accepted as a
| >politically correct indication of a WiFi(free/fee) hot spot?
|
| Chuckle. The sign I usually see is a home made "Free Wireless" or
| "Free Wi-Fi". Various companies such as iPass, T-Mobile, and Boingo
| all have stickers that go in the window. There are also "AMD
| Hotspots" and other endorsement type signs. I don't think there's any
| standard designation.
|
| However, the progressive thinking Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz
| County anticipated the problem and offered a solution. After
| listening to the tin-foil hat rabble, the planning department decided
| that 802.11 somehow posed a heath threat and suggested that every
| business establishment with wireless be required to post a suitable
| warning sign. Since the proposal did not specify the size and
| required text, I offered to design a prototype. It read:
| "Warning: 2,400,000 Hertz Transmission Area"
| followed by a list of applicable and convoluted FCC rules-n-regs.
| Unfortunately, the proposal was dropped by the planning department
| before I was able to present my prototype sign. Sigh.

I had that run around in one small town. I directed the city attorney to
the FCC's web site. When he found out that they could not tax WiFi it much
less regulate WiFi he recommend they table the issue. Interesting point when
they found out how much main street traffic the system generated I became
*the* fair haired boy instead of a seagull (consultant from out of town that
fly in, sh|ts on everything local then flies out)

| >I'm thinking of something that would be accepted by a city/town/state
| >(specifically the state/federal DOT) for posting at an interstate highway
| >exit similar to the Hospital *H*.
|
| How about:
| "Free Wireless Next Offramp. Sponsored by.... SSID=xxxxxx"
| I have no idea what to use for an icon that would be universally
| understood. Perhaps a symbolic laptop with an antenna of sorts?
|
| The DOT and state highway agencies have very specific rules and regs
| as to what can be seen or posted on a major highway. In Calif, you
| have to pay Caltrans to build and setup the signs.
| California codes:
| http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/ca...odesection=shc
| See Section 229 for "Tourist Oriented Directional Signs" and the
| associated bureaucracy.

the fee issue is what I'm hoping to avoid. Since it's a free service (like
the hospital *H*) a generic symbol would be best, especially if I can find
one before I start talking to DOT.

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 15:17:09 -0400, "Not Me" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I had that run around in one small town.

My semi-former ladyfriend is a member/leader of one of the local
environmental organizations. It makes for very interesting dinner
table conversation. The county took 3 years to hammer out a cellular
tower ordinance. Her tinfoil hat crowd was amazingly vocal,
especially when I pointed to the wireless access point in the council
chambers. Of course, they all had cell phones. The warning sign
suggestion came from their environmentally concious attorney, through
her connections with county council.

>I directed the city attorney to
>the FCC's web site. When he found out that they could not tax WiFi it much
>less regulate WiFi he recommend they table the issue.

Actually, it's tighter than that. Local agencies cannot use RF or
exposure guidelines in any local ordinance. That's reserved for the
FCC only.

Our planning board intentionally disregarded the advice of county
council on the matter and insisted on setting "guidelines" for what
they consider to be safe wireless exposure limits. I spent
considerable time trying to tear them apart on a technical basis.
When I realized that my efforts were futile, I hit them with FUD at a
public hearing. I told them that their rules were perfectly
acceptable for AMPS and various TDMA services currently in existence
on currently allocated frequencies. However, the exposure rules will
also effectively prevent the deployment of higher speed services (i.e.
3G) which require more power and more cell sites, thus turning the
county into a technically reactionary area. The exposure guidelines
were instantly dropped.

>Interesting point when
>they found out how much main street traffic the system generated I became
>*the* fair haired boy instead of a seagull (consultant from out of town that
>fly in, sh|ts on everything local then flies out)

Don't worry. You'll be blamed for everything when something goes
wrong.

>the fee issue is what I'm hoping to avoid. Since it's a free service (like
>the hospital *H*) a generic symbol would be best, especially if I can find
>one before I start talking to DOT.

I really don't know what's considered standard or acceptable. Perhaps
you should invent your own or borrow one from the Warchalking crowd:
http://webword.com/moving/warchalking.html
I still like the laptop with the antenna icon idea.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Jeff Liebermann"

| Don't worry. You'll be blamed for everything when something goes
| wrong.

Does not matter much, anytime anything goes wrong around here ... I'm
responsible. Even when I'm not I get the job of fixing whatever it is
that's wrong. I took early retirement and I'm busier now than when I was
working (but enjoying it much more <g>
|
| >the fee issue is what I'm hoping to avoid. Since it's a free service
(like
| >the hospital *H*) a generic symbol would be best, especially if I can
find
| >one before I start talking to DOT.
|
| I really don't know what's considered standard or acceptable. Perhaps
| you should invent your own or borrow one from the Warchalking crowd:
| http://webword.com/moving/warchalking.html
| I still like the laptop with the antenna icon idea.

Actually having one designed is not such a bad idea I have a friend that
does that kind of thing professionally <www.imagine-that.ws> likely cost me
$10K+ if I had to pay but what the heck... she owes me a few favors.

So now I need ideas.

Anybody?

Can I suggest the Antenna mast with radiating marks, as seen 0n the IBM
Thinkpad icon bar ?
I've seen IBM use this icon, in their buildings indicating acces points....

regards jim


Not Me wrote:
> "Jeff Liebermann"
>
> | Don't worry. You'll be blamed for everything when something goes
> | wrong.
>
> Does not matter much, anytime anything goes wrong around here ... I'm
> responsible. Even when I'm not I get the job of fixing whatever it is
> that's wrong. I took early retirement and I'm busier now than when I was
> working (but enjoying it much more <g>
> |
> | >the fee issue is what I'm hoping to avoid. Since it's a free service
> (like
> | >the hospital *H*) a generic symbol would be best, especially if I can
> find
> | >one before I start talking to DOT.
> |
> | I really don't know what's considered standard or acceptable. Perhaps
> | you should invent your own or borrow one from the Warchalking crowd:
> | http://webword.com/moving/warchalking.html
> | I still like the laptop with the antenna icon idea.
>
> Actually having one designed is not such a bad idea I have a friend that
> does that kind of thing professionally <www.imagine-that.ws> likely cost me
> $10K+ if I had to pay but what the heck... she owes me a few favors.
>
> So now I need ideas.
>
> Anybody?
>
>

"JimH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:d82hm6$t2v$(E-Mail Removed)...
| Can I suggest the Antenna mast with radiating marks, as seen 0n the IBM
| Thinkpad icon bar ?
| I've seen IBM use this icon, in their buildings indicating acces
points....
|
| regards jim
|
|
Have a link so I can take a look? Likely can't use the same thing but may
get some ideas nonetheless.

"Not Me" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>So now I need ideas.

I missed the previous discussion, what was wrong with the
http://www.wi-fizone.org/zoneDeploy.asp?TID=7 requirements? The only
_real_ requirement is that you use WiFi-certificed equipment, and let
them list your hotspot...