Wifi-b card UK availability for P4P800

Hi,
Can anyone give me details of any UK suppliers of the wifi card that works
with this mobo. The Asus uk site states there is 50% off this at the moment
(http://uk.asus.com/#) but gives no more details (other than specs,
installation etc)?

Also, can I put any type of 802.11b pci card or usb adapter into my other PC
to connect wirelessly to the pc with this card? The main pc will use the
wifi card to share the current adsl modem/router which is connected via the
ethernet port. Is there a particular make/model that is better suited to
work with this combo? Also, will the main PC need to be on all the time in
order to share the adsl connection (the adsl modem/router is on permanently)
but I assume windows xp will need to running to share the connection?

Sorry for the newbie questions, but this is all new territory for me.

Thanks very much for any help

Mark

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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:41:17 -0000, "Mark Hocking"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Also, can I put any type of 802.11b pci card or usb adapter into my other PC
>to connect wirelessly to the pc with this card?

Almost certainly yes...there are very rare incompatibility issues -
mostly with very early released kit. If it says its 802.11b on the
box it will almost certainly work with another true 802.11b device.

>The main pc will use the
>wifi card to share the current adsl modem/router which is connected via the
>ethernet port. Is there a particular make/model that is better suited to
>work with this combo? Also, will the main PC need to be on all the time in
>order to share the adsl connection (the adsl modem/router is on permanently)
>but I assume windows xp will need to running to share the connection?

In the configuration you describe - yes. And you will be exposing
your main PC to wireless attack.

However, if you bought an 802.11b Wireless Access Point and plugged it
into your Router instead of sticking a wireless card into the main PC,
you'd be able to use the wireless computer independently of the main
PC. Have a look at the other recent wireless threads on here.

>Sorry for the newbie questions, but this is all new territory for me.

We're all different shades of newbie in different places

jay

£21.15 from Scan in Bolton.

www.scan.co.uk

Look under Motherboards - Misc (Accessories)


"Mark Hocking" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:btc7jv$5obet$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> Can anyone give me details of any UK suppliers of the wifi card that works
> with this mobo. The Asus uk site states there is 50% off this at the
moment
> (http://uk.asus.com/#) but gives no more details (other than specs,
> installation etc)?
>
> Also, can I put any type of 802.11b pci card or usb adapter into my other
PC
> to connect wirelessly to the pc with this card? The main pc will use the
> wifi card to share the current adsl modem/router which is connected via
the
> ethernet port. Is there a particular make/model that is better suited to
> work with this combo? Also, will the main PC need to be on all the time in
> order to share the adsl connection (the adsl modem/router is on
permanently)
> but I assume windows xp will need to running to share the connection?
>
> Sorry for the newbie questions, but this is all new territory for me.
>
> Thanks very much for any help
>
> Mark
>
> reply to group or mark.hocking "at" tesco.net
>
>
>
>

"Jay" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >The main pc will use the
> >wifi card to share the current adsl modem/router which is connected via
the
> >ethernet port. Is there a particular make/model that is better suited to
> >work with this combo? Also, will the main PC need to be on all the time
in
> >order to share the adsl connection (the adsl modem/router is on
permanently)
> >but I assume windows xp will need to running to share the connection?
>
> In the configuration you describe - yes. And you will be exposing
> your main PC to wireless attack.
>
> However, if you bought an 802.11b Wireless Access Point and plugged it
> into your Router instead of sticking a wireless card into the main PC,
> you'd be able to use the wireless computer independently of the main
> PC. Have a look at the other recent wireless threads on here.
>
Thanks for this info - it is very helpful.

If I understand it the way you suggest would require a WAP & two wifi cards?
Whereas the ASUS card will act as a WAP & the adsl modem/router (Speedtouch
510) will plug into this needing only 1 additional wifi card for the 2nd pc?
How vulnerable are wireless networks to attack? I live in Devon (Exmouth) so
can't imagine there is a great deal to worry about - or is this a common
misconception?

thanks again
Mark

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:21:33 -0000, "Mark Hocking"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>If I understand it the way you suggest would require a WAP & two wifi cards?
>Whereas the ASUS card will act as a WAP & the adsl modem/router (Speedtouch
>510) will plug into this needing only 1 additional wifi card for the 2nd pc?

Apologies - didnt read your OP properly. If the Asus acts as a WAP
then yes - you just need the additional card. However, range may be
an issue - how far away will the laptop be?

>How vulnerable are wireless networks to attack? I live in Devon (Exmouth) so
>can't imagine there is a great deal to worry about - or is this a common
>misconception?

You are probably very unlikely to be attacked, but wireless as it is
at present is very easy to attack as the encryption uses fixed keys
and an attakcer can sniff packets for a while, go away and crack the
key, come back and attack you.

There have been a fair few threads on this ng recently about how to
set things up....even in Exmouth it would be worth "hardening" your
network.

If the laptop is deskbound, I'd personally recommend a wired set-up
until a tougher encryption scheme gets implemented.

Are Digita International still in Exmouth?

jay

Jay <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>. ..
> On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 21:21:33 -0000, "Mark Hocking"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >If I understand it the way you suggest would require a WAP & two wifi cards?
> >Whereas the ASUS card will act as a WAP & the adsl modem/router (Speedtouch
> >510) will plug into this needing only 1 additional wifi card for the 2nd pc?
>
> Apologies - didnt read your OP properly. If the Asus acts as a WAP
> then yes - you just need the additional card. However, range may be
> an issue - how far away will the laptop be?
>
> >How vulnerable are wireless networks to attack? I live in Devon (Exmouth) so
> >can't imagine there is a great deal to worry about - or is this a common
> >misconception?
>
> You are probably very unlikely to be attacked, but wireless as it is
> at present is very easy to attack as the encryption uses fixed keys
> and an attakcer can sniff packets for a while, go away and crack the
> key, come back and attack you.
>
> There have been a fair few threads on this ng recently about how to
> set things up....even in Exmouth it would be worth "hardening" your
> network.
>
> If the laptop is deskbound, I'd personally recommend a wired set-up
> until a tougher encryption scheme gets implemented.
>
> Are Digita International still in Exmouth?
>
> jay

Thanks again. I won't be using a laptop just a main pc connected to a
router and a 2nd one downstairs. I am a bit worried about range (are
usb wifi adapters better eg moveable?) so may well hold fire & hard
wire it in later.

Yes, Digita are based in the town centre.

Mark

"Acedrew" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<3ff9b509$0$11175$(E-Mail Removed) m>...
> £21.15 from Scan in Bolton.
>
> www.scan.co.uk
>
> Look under Motherboards - Misc (Accessories)
>
Thanks - they charge £7 delivery! Only other place I have found it is
Overclockers but it is out of stock.

thanks,
Mark

> Also, can I put any type of 802.11b pci card or usb adapter into my other PC
> to connect wirelessly to the pc with this card? The main pc will use the
> wifi card to share the current adsl modem/router which is connected via the
> ethernet port. Is there a particular make/model that is better suited to
> work with this combo? Also, will the main PC need to be on all the time in
> order to share the adsl connection (the adsl modem/router is on permanently)
> but I assume windows xp will need to running to share the connection?
>

i have in my hand a 2004 Asus catalogue (i never knew they did so much
stuff! proper remote management switches, rackmount servers, all
sorts) that touts a feature of their current laptop's wifi cards.
It specifically states that they're a proprietary type that isn't
compatible with normal mini-pci cards "to ensure quality".
not proven this myself, but it suggests you might have problems with a
standard mini-PCI card.

for the rest of your networking, your life will be much easier if you
buy a wireless access point and plug it in your router. this way your
main PC doesn't need to be on...they're very cheap now, in fact it may
be just as cheap to get a combined adsl router/wap and replace your
existing one. ebuyer have some v cheap linksys and they're an
absolute doddle to setup.

ric