Why are ISP's dropping NNTP

Why are ISP's dropping nntp , I can understand binaries, but test only
services can't take up much bandwidth or server power

Do people think this will spread to all ISP's. Google is ok , but not as
good as downloading the messages via an nntp client?

Alternatively is there a client which can download msgs from Google news ??


thanks

Scared wrote:
> Why are ISP's dropping nntp , I can understand binaries, but test only
> services can't take up much bandwidth or server power
>
> Do people think this will spread to all ISP's. Google is ok , but not
> as good as downloading the messages via an nntp client?
>
> Alternatively is there a client which can download msgs from Google
> news ??

Who is dropping NNTP?

Beck wrote:
>
> Who is dropping NNTP?
>
AOL has already done so, Wanadoo says it will (see post from
Ivor Jones, and follow-ups today on Wandoo news query)

Beck wrote:
>
> Who is dropping NNTP?
>
Ha! I can see why you posted now, with NNTP not itself
being "dropped" but an ISP-based (ie no extra fee) news
service being dropped, which is how I accepted original
post to be suggesting... Peter.

Scared wrote:

> Why are ISP's dropping nntp , I can understand binaries, but test only
> services can't take up much bandwidth or server power

It does seem odd. A while ago, Eclipse had no news service at all. The
19.99 Demon Home account has no news access, and now the Home Office a/c
has no mention of news (as if they could withdraw it as it isn't part of
any product description on their website pages). Plus.Net's BB Plus a/c
is pretty much useless for binaries (with no indication of that on their
web site pages, AFAIK) and they were suggesting it may become text-only,
but while their news service is less than ideal, they have not yet found
the nerve to outsource it to a reliable commercial news facility. Clara
still seems to be soldiering on, but I don't use their binaries, so have
no knowledge as to how well that part copes.

> Google is ok, but not as good as downloading the messages

Agreed. I guess some might switch ISP rather than use Google or pay any
additional fees to use external news services. Seems likely that Usenet
will be classed as an even more "limited interest" service compared with
peer-to-peer. Well, I'm unaffected by speed restrictions on the latter,
as I don't have any need to use it, but seeing the way some ISPs are now
adding "traffic calming" is bad news for customers, in general, if there
are only a few types of traffic someone uses and they keep being hit for
using "too much" on some changeable scale where the ISP is ready to move
the goalposts every 6 months (possibly before they tell customers)! PGM.

Peter M wrote:
> Beck wrote:
>>
>> Who is dropping NNTP?
>>
> AOL has already done so, Wanadoo says it will (see post from
> Ivor Jones, and follow-ups today on Wandoo news query)

Thanks, sorry was the first thread I read when I opened the group this
morning. Should have read a little bit more :-)

Peter M wrote:
> Beck wrote:
>>
>> Who is dropping NNTP?
>>
> Ha! I can see why you posted now, with NNTP not itself
> being "dropped" but an ISP-based (ie no extra fee) news
> service being dropped, which is how I accepted original
> post to be suggesting... Peter.

LOL no I wish I was being that clever, but no I simply did not know the news
at the time of posting. I see what you mean though :-)

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:35:16 -0000, "Scared" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Why are ISP's dropping nntp , I can understand binaries, but test only
>services can't take up much bandwidth or server power
>

It's the cost of maintenance.

>Do people think this will spread to all ISP's. Google is ok , but not as
>good as downloading the messages via an nntp client?
>

IMO Google groups (or any other web based groups) is a poor substitute
for a good NNTP client.

Hopefully some ISP's may reconsider that NNTP is a good way to promote
their services but it would need to be marketed. I notice that the ISP
I use no longer mentions NNTP but they haven't pulled the plug.

>Alternatively is there a client which can download msgs from Google news ??
>

I don't know of any but it would be very useful. You can get Google
groups by email but you can't reply and it's a pain to set up.

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Scared wrote:
> Why are ISP's dropping nntp , I can understand binaries, but test only
> services can't take up much bandwidth or server power
>
> Do people think this will spread to all ISP's. Google is ok , but not
> as good as downloading the messages via an nntp client?
>
> Alternatively is there a client which can download msgs from Google
> news ??
>

I used to use news.individual.net for my NNTP access but they started
charging per month so then I went to www.teranews.com where you can sign up
for a free account for $3.95 one time setup charge to your credit card. They
have started adding ads to every message since last week but it works fine.
Using Outlook Express and OE Quotefix to compose my messages.

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And to all those opposed...
Hmm...well


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Nick Le Lievre wrote:
> I used to use news.individual.net for my NNTP access but they started
> charging per month so then I went to www.teranews.com where you can sign up
> for a free account for $3.95 one time setup charge to your credit card. They
> have started adding ads to every message since last week but it works fine.
> Using Outlook Express and OE Quotefix to compose my messages.
>

NIN charge 10 Euros (approx £7.0) per year, which is excellent value at
60p a month

Charlie