Why crossover cable is problematic?

I read a link in this NNTP forum that mention all the crossover cable
can cause damaged machines. Why? Is this a non-regulated technology by
stardars? Somebody know?

Crossover cables do not damage machines. If someone says
that they do then they are spreading myths.


"josepe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I read a link in this NNTP forum that mention all the crossover cable
> can cause damaged machines. Why? Is this a non-regulated technology by
> stardars? Somebody know?
>

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, josepe
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I read a link in this NNTP forum that mention all the crossover cable
>can cause damaged machines. Why? Is this a non-regulated technology by
>stardars? Somebody know?

Don't believe everything that you read, josepe, especially on the
Internet.

I'm not saying that it's impossible, but I've never seen any reports
of damage from crossover cables, and they've worked fine every time
that I've used them over the past several years.

There might be some network cards that don't get a reliable network
connection using a crossover cable, because the cards need the
constant link that a hub or switch provides. I haven't run into that,
either.
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I don't know that they'll damage anything but I do know that some network
cards won't work with a crossover cable, they need a standard cable and a
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"josepe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I read a link in this NNTP forum that mention all the crossover cable
> can cause damaged machines. Why? Is this a non-regulated technology by
> stardars? Somebody know?
>

josepe wrote:

> I read a link in this NNTP forum that mention all the crossover cable
> can cause damaged machines. Why? Is this a non-regulated technology by
> stardars? Somebody know?
>

Show us the link and maybe we can understand. I've never seen a
crossover cable cause damage.

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The link is
http://www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
Thanks all.

Where does that link say that crossover cables can damage your equipment?

What it does say is that many manufacturers will void your warranty if you
tell them you are using a crossover cable. It also states that crossover
cables do not always work and can be problematic.

Carey

"josepe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The link is
> http://www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
> Thanks all.
>

Carey Holzman wrote:

> Where does that link say that crossover cables can damage your equipment?
>
> What it does say is that many manufacturers will void your warranty if you
> tell them you are using a crossover cable. It also states that crossover
> cables do not always work and can be problematic.

I've never heard of a manufacturer caring. I've never had problems with
them, either, but I've read seemingly credible accounts of them not
working with certain cards.

>
> Carey
>
> "josepe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>The link is
>>http://www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>>Thanks all.
>>
>
>
>


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Cross-over cables were designed strictly for connecting one hub to another.

Linksys has this to say about them:

http://kb.linksys.com/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=332615&QuestionText=crossove r&SelectName1=&advquery=%5bs%5d%5bRank%2c%2050%3a% 5bSum%3a%20crossover%5d%5bMerge%3a%20%5bThesaurus% 3a%20crossover%5d%5d%5d&infobase=linksysrev.nfo&re cord={2BC}&softpage=IKW_ENU_JDocView

"Linksys does not support networking with the use of crossover cables, as
the connection between machines has been proven to be unstable and
unreliable. Industry standards support networking with the use of an
intermediary device such as a hub or a switch. Linksys adheres to such
industry standards for networking."

There are similar statements on numerous other manufacturers web-sites. I
chose Linksys because they seem to be the most popular in the consumer
market.

Carey

"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Carey Holzman wrote:
>
> > Where does that link say that crossover cables can damage your
equipment?
> >
> > What it does say is that many manufacturers will void your warranty if
you
> > tell them you are using a crossover cable. It also states that crossover
> > cables do not always work and can be problematic.
>
> I've never heard of a manufacturer caring. I've never had problems with
> them, either, but I've read seemingly credible accounts of them not
> working with certain cards.
>
> >
> > Carey
> >
> > "josepe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >>The link is
> >>http://www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
> >>Thanks all.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
> concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
> mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
> steps are necessary. ...Charlie

Carey Holzman wrote:

> Cross-over cables were designed strictly for connecting one hub to another.
>
> Linksys has this to say about them:
>
> http://kb.linksys.com/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=332615&QuestionText=crossove r&SelectName1=&advquery=%5bs%5d%5bRank%2c%2050%3a% 5bSum%3a%20crossover%5d%5bMerge%3a%20%5bThesaurus% 3a%20crossover%5d%5d%5d&infobase=linksysrev.nfo&re cord={2BC}&softpage=IKW_ENU_JDocView
>
> "Linksys does not support networking with the use of crossover cables, as
> the connection between machines has been proven to be unstable and
> unreliable. Industry standards support networking with the use of an
> intermediary device such as a hub or a switch. Linksys adheres to such
> industry standards for networking."
>
> There are similar statements on numerous other manufacturers web-sites. I
> chose Linksys because they seem to be the most popular in the consumer
> market.

That's still a long way from saying they damage equipment or void
warranties.

>
> Carey
>
> "CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>>Carey Holzman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Where does that link say that crossover cables can damage your
>
> equipment?
>
>>>What it does say is that many manufacturers will void your warranty if
>
> you
>
>>>tell them you are using a crossover cable. It also states that crossover
>>>cables do not always work and can be problematic.
>>
>>I've never heard of a manufacturer caring. I've never had problems with
>>them, either, but I've read seemingly credible accounts of them not
>>working with certain cards.
>>
>>
>>>Carey
>>>
>>>"josepe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The link is
>>>>http://www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>>>>Thanks all.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
>>concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
>>mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
>>steps are necessary. ...Charlie
>
>
>


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After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
steps are necessary. ...Charlie