Which laptop card

I need to get a wireless laptop card but am a little confused by PCMCIA
cards and Cardbus cards - whats the difference?

I have a Toshiba Portege 7140 and I have two slots free - I think they are
PCMCIA ones. I'm after a Netgear card, to go with the Netgear DG834G router
but somewhat confused between the three cards available at Ebuyer (quickfind
codes 45112, 56198, 52451). Which one do I need for a 802.11g network?

Thanks

Scampi <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: I need to get a wireless laptop card but am a little confused by PCMCIA
: cards and Cardbus cards - whats the difference?

None - as far as I know!

: I have a Toshiba Portege 7140 and I have two slots free - I think they are
: PCMCIA ones. I'm after a Netgear card, to go with the Netgear DG834G router
: but somewhat confused between the three cards available at Ebuyer (quickfind
: codes 45112, 56198, 52451). Which one do I need for a 802.11g network?

*NOT* 45112 = it's 801.11a (this is at 5GHz)

Either of the other 2. They can run at double-speed (108Mbs) with particular
named Netgear routers - but both say that they will operate will all 802.11g
(54Mbs) or 801.11b (11Mbs) networks.

On 17 Feb 2004 11:24:05 GMT, Brian McIlwrath <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Scampi <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>: I need to get a wireless laptop card but am a little confused by PCMCIA
>: cards and Cardbus cards - whats the difference?
>
>None - as far as I know!

Not strictly true: the Cardbus and PCMCIA systems are slightly
different; older laptops have the latter, and you may find that
Cardbus cards may not work in them. For example, I have a couple of
elderly (5+ years old) Dells that work w/ PCMCIA NICs but not with
similar Cardbus cards.

>: I have a Toshiba Portege 7140 and I have two slots free - I think they are
>: PCMCIA ones. I'm after a Netgear card, to go with the Netgear DG834G router
>: but somewhat confused between the three cards available at Ebuyer (quickfind
>: codes 45112, 56198, 52451). Which one do I need for a 802.11g network?
>
>*NOT* 45112 = it's 801.11a (this is at 5GHz)
>
>Either of the other 2. They can run at double-speed (108Mbs) with particular
>named Netgear routers - but both say that they will operate will all 802.11g
>(54Mbs) or 801.11b (11Mbs) networks.

If the OP's machine is relatively recent, then the PCMCIA/Cardbus
issue is, indeed, irrelevant.

Julian

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julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk

Brian McIlwrath <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: *NOT* 45112 = it's 801.11a (this is at 5GHz)
......
: (54Mbs) or 801.11b (11Mbs) networks.

Two typos! Both the above network names are 802.<whatever>

"Julian Fowler" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 17 Feb 2004 11:24:05 GMT, Brian McIlwrath <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >Scampi <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >: I need to get a wireless laptop card but am a little confused by PCMCIA
> >: cards and Cardbus cards - whats the difference?
> >
> >None - as far as I know!
>
> Not strictly true: the Cardbus and PCMCIA systems are slightly
> different; older laptops have the latter, and you may find that
> Cardbus cards may not work in them. For example, I have a couple of
> elderly (5+ years old) Dells that work w/ PCMCIA NICs but not with
> similar Cardbus cards.
>
> >: I have a Toshiba Portege 7140 and I have two slots free - I think they
are
> >: PCMCIA ones. I'm after a Netgear card, to go with the Netgear DG834G
router
> >: but somewhat confused between the three cards available at Ebuyer
(quickfind
> >: codes 45112, 56198, 52451). Which one do I need for a 802.11g network?
> >
> >*NOT* 45112 = it's 801.11a (this is at 5GHz)
> >
> >Either of the other 2. They can run at double-speed (108Mbs) with
particular
> >named Netgear routers - but both say that they will operate will all
802.11g
> >(54Mbs) or 801.11b (11Mbs) networks.
>
> If the OP's machine is relatively recent, then the PCMCIA/Cardbus
> issue is, indeed, irrelevant.

My machine is about 3/4 years old now so not sure which of the two cards I'd
need. Its a P3-500 so its not that old (I think). I'll try and dig out the
manual or give Toshiba a call, unless anyone knows which one I need?

Thanks again

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:46:03 -0000, "Scampi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>My machine is about 3/4 years old now so not sure which of the two cards I'd
>need. Its a P3-500 so its not that old (I think). I'll try and dig out the
>manual or give Toshiba a call, unless anyone knows which one I need?

I recently put a Cardbus wireless card in a really old laptop (P166),
it worked without a hitch.

In uk.telecom.broadband Steve Pearce <*(E-Mail Removed)*> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:46:03 -0000, "Scampi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>My machine is about 3/4 years old now so not sure which of the two cards I'd
>>need. Its a P3-500 so its not that old (I think). I'll try and dig out the
>>manual or give Toshiba a call, unless anyone knows which one I need?
>
> I recently put a Cardbus wireless card in a really old laptop (P166),
> it worked without a hitch.

Anything over a P233 or so pretty much is going to have cardbus.
Some machines under that speed may not support Cardbus cards.
Anything under a P150 or so will almost certainly not.

"Ian Stirling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:O8tYb.6737$Y%(E-Mail Removed)...
> In uk.telecom.broadband Steve Pearce <*(E-Mail Removed)*> wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:46:03 -0000, "Scampi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>My machine is about 3/4 years old now so not sure which of the two cards
I'd
> >>need. Its a P3-500 so its not that old (I think). I'll try and dig out
the
> >>manual or give Toshiba a call, unless anyone knows which one I need?
> >
> > I recently put a Cardbus wireless card in a really old laptop (P166),
> > it worked without a hitch.
>
> Anything over a P233 or so pretty much is going to have cardbus.
> Some machines under that speed may not support Cardbus cards.
> Anything under a P150 or so will almost certainly not.


Sorry but my p133 is running a cardbus network card just fine (fujitsu
lifebook)

Drew

In uk.telecom.broadband Drew <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> "Ian Stirling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:O8tYb.6737$Y%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In uk.telecom.broadband Steve Pearce <*(E-Mail Removed)*> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:46:03 -0000, "Scampi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>My machine is about 3/4 years old now so not sure which of the two cards
> I'd
>> >>need. Its a P3-500 so its not that old (I think). I'll try and dig out
> the
>> >>manual or give Toshiba a call, unless anyone knows which one I need?
>> >
>> > I recently put a Cardbus wireless card in a really old laptop (P166),
>> > it worked without a hitch.
>>
>> Anything over a P233 or so pretty much is going to have cardbus.
>> Some machines under that speed may not support Cardbus cards.
>> Anything under a P150 or so will almost certainly not.
>
>
> Sorry but my p133 is running a cardbus network card just fine (fujitsu
> lifebook)

Ok, maybe P120 then.

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:40:28 GMT, Ian Stirling
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In uk.telecom.broadband Drew <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> "Ian Stirling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:O8tYb.6737$Y%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> In uk.telecom.broadband Steve Pearce <*(E-Mail Removed)*> wrote:
>>> > On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 11:46:03 -0000, "Scampi" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>My machine is about 3/4 years old now so not sure which of the two cards
>> I'd
>>> >>need. Its a P3-500 so its not that old (I think). I'll try and dig out
>> the
>>> >>manual or give Toshiba a call, unless anyone knows which one I need?
>>> >
>>> > I recently put a Cardbus wireless card in a really old laptop (P166),
>>> > it worked without a hitch.
>>>
>>> Anything over a P233 or so pretty much is going to have cardbus.
>>> Some machines under that speed may not support Cardbus cards.
>>> Anything under a P150 or so will almost certainly not.
>>
>>
>> Sorry but my p133 is running a cardbus network card just fine (fujitsu
>> lifebook)
>
>Ok, maybe P120 then.

The one machine I have that I know for sure doesn't work w/ Cardbus is
(gulp!) a 1995 vintage 486. So maybe the advice should be "unless
your laptop belongs in a museum, Cardbus and PCMCIA cards will work
equally well" :-)

Julian


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julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk