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G a z .
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      05-07-2007, 02:33 PM
I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket both from
ADSL nation.

Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.

Cat5e (which I would have to buy).

or

Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)

The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.

So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!

Many Thanks in advance & Best Wishes as always,

Gaz.
 
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Lurch
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      05-07-2007, 03:07 PM
On Mon, 7 May 2007 15:33:10 +0100, G a z . <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
>wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
>an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket both from
>ADSL nation.
>
>Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>
>Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>
>or
>
>Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>
>The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
>
>So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!
>
>Many Thanks in advance & Best Wishes as always,
>
>Gaz.


Well, I'd use CW1308 if it was just for phones. If you are wiring for
data and you had to buy either the cat5e or cat6 I'd use the cat5e for
home networking, but if the cat6 is free then why the hell are you
asking such a seemingly dim question?
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Peter Crosland
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      05-07-2007, 03:09 PM
G a z . wrote:
> I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
> wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to
> purchase an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered
> socket both from ADSL nation.
>
> Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>
> Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>
> or
>
> Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>
> The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
>
> So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!


The BT cable is to CW1308 specification but you can use CAT5e.


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Andrew Gabriel
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      05-07-2007, 03:53 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
G a z . <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
> wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
> an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket both from
> ADSL nation.
>
> Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>
> Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>
> or
>
> Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>
> The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
>
> So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!


Both Cat 5e and Cat 6 are over spec'ed for phone usage (which uses
Cat 3), but they'll work just fine.

If you are going to this effort, you should consider installing a
proper structured cabling infrastructure if you have any interest
in computing or multi-media. Cat 6 cabling will be more future-proof,
although you terminate it with cheaper Cat 5e accessories for now.

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Helen Deborah Vecht
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      05-07-2007, 05:17 PM
andrew@a17 (Andrew Gabriel)typed


> In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
> G a z . <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> > I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
> > wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
> > an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket
> > both from
> > ADSL nation.
> >
> > Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
> >
> > Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
> >
> > or
> >
> > Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
> >
> > The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
> >
> > So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!


> Both Cat 5e and Cat 6 are over spec'ed for phone usage (which uses
> Cat 3), but they'll work just fine.


> If you are going to this effort, you should consider installing a
> proper structured cabling infrastructure if you have any interest
> in computing or multi-media. Cat 6 cabling will be more future-proof,
> although you terminate it with cheaper Cat 5e accessories for now.


Except the OP has stated he can get Cat 6 free anyway.
I can't see why he should consider Cat 5e.

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Harry Broomhall
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      05-07-2007, 09:09 PM
On Mon, 7 May 2007 18:17:56 +0100, Helen Deborah Vecht
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>andrew@a17 (Andrew Gabriel)typed
>
>
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
>> G a z . <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>> > I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
>> > wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
>> > an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket
>> > both from
>> > ADSL nation.
>> >
>> > Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>> >
>> > Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>> >
>> > The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
>> >
>> > So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!

>
>> Both Cat 5e and Cat 6 are over spec'ed for phone usage (which uses
>> Cat 3), but they'll work just fine.

>
>> If you are going to this effort, you should consider installing a
>> proper structured cabling infrastructure if you have any interest
>> in computing or multi-media. Cat 6 cabling will be more future-proof,
>> although you terminate it with cheaper Cat 5e accessories for now.

>
>Except the OP has stated he can get Cat 6 free anyway.
>I can't see why he should consider Cat 5e.


Simple. Can he get the required tools and termination systems for
Cat6 free as well.? Plus the expertise to make them?

If not then this will degrade the cat6 on the system, in some cases
to worse than cat5e.

Cat5e is far more forgiving of things not quite being right.

IMHO I'd go for cat5e here - I know *my* skills aren't up to making
cat6 cable runs correctly.

Regards,
Harry.


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Rory
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      05-07-2007, 09:28 PM
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
> andrew@a17 (Andrew Gabriel)typed
>
>
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
>> G a z . <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>> I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
>>> wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
>>> an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket
>>> both from
>>> ADSL nation.
>>>
>>> Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>>>
>>> Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>>>
>>> The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
>>>
>>> So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!

>
>> Both Cat 5e and Cat 6 are over spec'ed for phone usage (which uses
>> Cat 3), but they'll work just fine.

>
>> If you are going to this effort, you should consider installing a
>> proper structured cabling infrastructure if you have any interest
>> in computing or multi-media. Cat 6 cabling will be more future-proof,
>> although you terminate it with cheaper Cat 5e accessories for now.

>
> Except the OP has stated he can get Cat 6 free anyway.
> I can't see why he should consider Cat 5e.
>

Besides other reasons, Cat5e generally has a smaller cross-section
making the installed cable a bit less visible.
I'd probably sooner fork out a few quid for white CW1308 for this, being
easier to install and a lot less obtrusive. What's the point in
installing Cat6 when the pair from the exchange will be running on u/g,
dropwire, etc...
 
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sandy@sanleegroup.com
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      05-08-2007, 08:46 AM
On May 7, 10:33 pm, G a z . <S...@NoEmail.Com> wrote:
> I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
> wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
> an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket both from
> ADSL nation.
>
> Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>
> Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>
> or
>
> Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>
> The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
>
> So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!
>
> Many Thanks in advance & Best Wishes as always,
>
> Gaz.


Cat5e, Cat6 is all can used


 
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R. Mark Clayton
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      05-08-2007, 12:26 PM

"Rory" <ror@blue*spam*yonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
>> andrew@a17 (Andrew Gabriel)typed
>>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)> ,
>>> G a z . <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>>>> I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
>>>> wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to
>>>> purchase an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered
>>>> socket
>>>> both from ADSL nation.
>>>>
>>>> Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>>>>
>>>> Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>>>>


> Besides other reasons, Cat5e generally has a smaller cross-section making
> the installed cable a bit less visible.
> I'd probably sooner fork out a few quid for white CW1308 for this, being
> easier to install and a lot less obtrusive. What's the point in installing
> Cat6 when the pair from the exchange will be running on u/g, dropwire,
> etc...


Because once it gets to your router it turns into 802, which won't go very
far down drop wire.

OTOH as you say Cat5e is easier to install (reasonably easy DIY), and
probably adequate for some time to come, and all the accessories installer
tools etc. are cheaper. Cat5E cable is cheap enough at about £300 per mile.


 
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Phil Partridge
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      05-08-2007, 06:38 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed) om>,
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>On May 7, 10:33 pm, G a z . <S...@NoEmail.Com> wrote:
>> I am thinking of renewing all the phone cables in our house, which are
>> wired in from our side of the BT Master Socket, I also intend to purchase
>> an XTE-2000 Master Faceplate together with a 68mm filtered socket both from
>> ADSL nation.
>>
>> Now my question is this which cable would be the best for the job.
>>
>> Cat5e (which I would have to buy).
>>
>> or
>>
>> Cat6 (which I can get for free in any amount)
>>
>> The Cat6 is high quality *British Made* cable, made by a local firm.
>>
>> So what would the more experienced amongst the regulars recommend!
>>
>> Many Thanks in advance & Best Wishes as always,
>>
>> Gaz.

>
>Cat5e, Cat6 is all can used
>
>

Use the 'free' cable!

Leave a little slack 'in the wall' or neatly coiled in the back-box, and
terminate with 'whatever' you like, or are comfortable with for now..
I would terminate TWO cables to each location, back to a suitable
location with a patch panel, or double faceplates. - Each can accomodate
4 RJ45 sockets..
You can get a 'swing-frame' bracket, which is more than adequate if it
is a cupboard, so won't be seen..

Spend the monies saved on not buying cable on the other bits.. You will
then have a system you can upgrade / modify later.

Have fun,
Philip Partridge
 
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