Whats logging me off?

Have a query.
Just installed a wireless D-Link 524 router to my PC and a wireless
connection to a laptop. Everything works ok, apart from one thing.
Everytime either the PC or laptop want to go online, the other disconnects
from the Internet/looses its connection. Any ideas as to what's going on?
<<S>>

"<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Just installed a wireless D-Link 524 router

That would be a DLink DI-524. Please do not abrev or trunc.

>to my PC and a wireless
>connection to a laptop. Everything works ok, apart from one thing.
>Everytime either the PC or laptop want to go online, the other disconnects
>from the Internet/looses its connection. Any ideas as to what's going on?

On your PC that's working, run:
Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
IPCONFIG
If the IP address returned is 192.168.1.xxx, then ignore me and move
on to the next guess(tm).

If the IP address is 80.5.188.227 or something similar, then you have
the various cables going to the LAN and WAN (internet) ports on the
back of the DI-524 mixed up. The WAN port goes to your cable or DSL
modem. The LAN ports go to the computers.

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:37:49 GMT, "<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<Nzh4h.5974$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>Have a query.
>Just installed a wireless D-Link 524 router to my PC

Wired? Or wireless?

>and a wireless
>connection to a laptop. Everything works ok, apart from one thing.
>Everytime either the PC or laptop want to go online,

What exactly do you mean by that?

>the other disconnects
>from the Internet/looses its connection.

What are the exact symptoms?

>Any ideas as to what's going on?

It's hard to tell from the way you paraphrased.

General tip: Make sure the 524 has the latest firmware.

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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>Just installed a wireless D-Link 524 router
>
> That would be a DLink DI-524. Please do not abrev or trunc.
>
>>to my PC and a wireless
>>connection to a laptop. Everything works ok, apart from one thing.
>>Everytime either the PC or laptop want to go online, the other disconnects
>>from the Internet/looses its connection. Any ideas as to what's going on?
>
> On your PC that's working, run:
> Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
> IPCONFIG
> If the IP address returned is 192.168.1.xxx, then ignore me and move
> on to the next guess(tm).
>
> If the IP address is 80.5.188.227 or something similar, then you have
> the various cables going to the LAN and WAN (internet) ports on the
> back of the DI-524 mixed up. The WAN port goes to your cable or DSL
> modem. The LAN ports go to the computers.
>
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> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


Thanks Jeff
Had already checked ipconfig, that reads 192.168.0.100
All the cables are correct, triple checked them. Have connected loads of
routers so its not like I don't know where these cables go.
Reset the router and started all over again, but still the same result.
Someone mentioned to me about getting rid of messenger, which I did, and now
everything works as it should.
Why is it I can have messenger on one PC but not the other without this
problem occurring, any ideas?
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"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:37:49 GMT, "<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> <Nzh4h.5974$(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>>Have a query.
>>Just installed a wireless D-Link 524 router to my PC
>
> Wired? Or wireless?
>
>>and a wireless
>>connection to a laptop. Everything works ok, apart from one thing.
>>Everytime either the PC or laptop want to go online,
>
> What exactly do you mean by that?
>
>>the other disconnects
>>from the Internet/looses its connection.
>
> What are the exact symptoms?
>
>>Any ideas as to what's going on?
>
> It's hard to tell from the way you paraphrased.
>
> General tip: Make sure the 524 has the latest firmware.
>
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> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
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John
Like I wrote, a Wireless D=Link Dl 524 router.

When both the PC and the Laptop are connected to the Internet, if one of the
two opens up Messenger a message pops up saying "You have connected to
another PC". And promptly drops the connection.

The router came with the latest firmware installed.

When I go to Start | Run | cmd and type ipconfig, the screen flashes for a
split second and then nothing,

"<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Had already checked ipconfig, that reads 192.168.0.100

OK, you have it wired correctly. So much for that theory. I'll
assume DI-524 Rev C (not A or B).

>All the cables are correct, triple checked them. Have connected loads of
>routers so its not like I don't know where these cables go.

Assumption, the mother of all screwups. I would hate to admit the
number of mistakes I've made simply because I assumed it was correct.

>Reset the router and started all over again, but still the same result.
>Someone mentioned to me about getting rid of messenger, which I did, and now
>everything works as it should.

Amazing.

>Why is it I can have messenger on one PC but not the other without this
>problem occurring, any ideas?

No insight but perhaps a guess(tm).

Is it Windoze Messenger Service, MSN Messenger, or Yahoo Messenger
that you're disabling?

If it's MSN Messenger, the setup is really bizarre:
| http://www.portforward.com/english/r..._Messenger.htm
I'll assume you didn't do that as you didn't complain about it.

Anyway, instead of shooting the Messenger, try disabling the UPnP
feature in the DI-524 and see if that helps.
| http://support.dlink.com/emulators/d...ools_misc.html
My guess(tm) is that UPnP is jugging the port forwarding.

Also, try turning OFF the Gaming Mode. It's a crude form of QoS that
allegedly gives priority to VoIP and games. I'm not convinced that it
does anything useful.
| http://support.dlink.com/emulators/d...ools_misc.html

Also, check the DI-524 log for any hints:
| http://support.dlink.com/emulators/d...vc/st_log.html

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:02:27 GMT, "<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<TYo4h.11307$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:37:49 GMT, "<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> <Nzh4h.5974$(E-Mail Removed)>:
>>
>>>Have a query.
>>>Just installed a wireless D-Link 524 router to my PC
>>
>> Wired? Or wireless?
>>
>>>and a wireless
>>>connection to a laptop. Everything works ok, apart from one thing.
>>>Everytime either the PC or laptop want to go online,
>>
>> What exactly do you mean by that?
>>
>>>the other disconnects
>>>from the Internet/looses its connection.
>>
>> What are the exact symptoms?
>>
>>>Any ideas as to what's going on?
>>
>> It's hard to tell from the way you paraphrased.
>>
>> General tip: Make sure the 524 has the latest firmware.

>When both the PC and the Laptop are connected to the Internet, if one of the
>two opens up Messenger a message pops up saying "You have connected to
>another PC". And promptly drops the connection.

Ahhh ... Messenger ... presumably _Windows_ Messenger ... you omitted
that _essential_ info. It's really, really hard to help when you do
that.

See "NAT and Windows Messenger" at
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/worki01.mspx>

Try enabling UPnP in your DI-524.

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>
> John
> Like I wrote, a Wireless D=Link Dl 524 router.
>
> When both the PC and the Laptop are connected to the Internet, if one of the
> two opens up Messenger a message pops up saying "You have connected to
> another PC". And promptly drops the connection.
>

Are you sure you are losing the internet connection and not just being
logged out of the messenger service? You can only be logged into a
messenger account from one computer at a time. If you are logged into
messenger on your desktop and you fire up your laptop with messenger
running, you will be booted of messenger on your desktop. The desktop
will still have internet access, just not messenger access until you
manually sign in on the desktop (which will then boot your laptop off of
messenger, but not the internet). I have seen this many times on my
laptop/desktop at home.

Try this experiment:
With only your desktop running open a command window and continually
ping an internet server (I usually ping yahoo.com)
ping -t yahoo.com

Now fire up your laptop. If your laptop connects and the pings on the
desktop continue, you still have a internet connect even if a little
messenger pop up says you have connected to another computer.


Good Luck

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:23:08 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<(E-Mail Removed)>:

>Is it Windoze Messenger Service, MSN Messenger, or Yahoo Messenger
>that you're disabling?
>
>If it's MSN Messenger, the setup is really bizarre:
>| http://www.portforward.com/english/r..._Messenger.htm
>I'll assume you didn't do that as you didn't complain about it.
>
>Anyway, instead of shooting the Messenger, try disabling the UPnP
>feature in the DI-524 and see if that helps.
>| http://support.dlink.com/emulators/d...ools_misc.html
>My guess(tm) is that UPnP is jugging the port forwarding.

The usual problem is UPnP off, not on. Windows Messenger uses UPnP.

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> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:02:27 GMT, "<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> <TYo4h.11307$(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>>"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 09:37:49 GMT, "<<S>>" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>> <Nzh4h.5974$(E-Mail Removed)>:
>>>
>>>>Have a query.
>>>>Just installed a wireless D-Link 524 router to my PC
>>>
>>> Wired? Or wireless?
>>>
>>>>and a wireless
>>>>connection to a laptop. Everything works ok, apart from one thing.
>>>>Everytime either the PC or laptop want to go online,
>>>
>>> What exactly do you mean by that?
>>>
>>>>the other disconnects
>>>>from the Internet/looses its connection.
>>>
>>> What are the exact symptoms?
>>>
>>>>Any ideas as to what's going on?
>>>
>>> It's hard to tell from the way you paraphrased.
>>>
>>> General tip: Make sure the 524 has the latest firmware.
>
>>When both the PC and the Laptop are connected to the Internet, if one of
>>the
>>two opens up Messenger a message pops up saying "You have connected to
>>another PC". And promptly drops the connection.
>
> Ahhh ... Messenger ... presumably _Windows_ Messenger ... you omitted
> that _essential_ info. It's really, really hard to help when you do
> that.
>
> See "NAT and Windows Messenger" at
> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/worki01.mspx>
>
> Try enabling UPnP in your DI-524.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

John
In actual fact, I know I should be more precise, the culprit is MSN
Messenger Live.
Will check out these settings again in the morning.
Regards
<<S>>