WEP settings

This is a wireless novice. I know that WEP is not the best security, but
until I do better, I need help setting up WEP 128.

On my wireless router, it gives me a choice between enable and disable which
is obvious. But below that it has fields for 4 numbers, presently filled
with 0s. What do I enter in these fields? Do I just make up an alphanumeric
number? No help came with the instructions.

Then, do I have to enter the same numbers on the other PCs in the network?

Thanks.

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"Jeff Malka" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> This is a wireless novice. I know that WEP is not the best security, but
> until I do better, I need help setting up WEP 128.
>
> On my wireless router, it gives me a choice between enable and disable which
> is obvious. But below that it has fields for 4 numbers, presently filled
> with 0s. What do I enter in these fields? Do I just make up an alphanumeric
> number?

Yup. They're Hexadecimal digits (0123456789ABCDEF).

You need to fill out at least one of the keys. I don't really know
what keys 2-4 are used for, but perhaps someone who's more WEP savvy
than me can chime in (as I use WPA).

Some access points have a place you can enter a text key and press a
button, and it'll generate 4 HEX keys for you based off that.

> Then, do I have to enter the same numbers on the other PCs in the
> network?

That's correct.

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Todd H.
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i'm using the netgear wrg614v2 and the WEP codes are a little confusing to
me as well.

i believe if you're using 128 bit encryption, u only need the one key.

what i don't understand is that with my wireless card (the netgear wgr511),
the prompt to enter the code is for 104/128 (there is no 104 bit encryption
on the wireless router), and when i type in the same passphrase (which
hopefully will generate the same hex digits) i get a different series.

then i copy down the long hex code from the router and manually input it
into the card.

does this make sense or am i missing something? thanks


"Todd H." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Jeff Malka" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
> > This is a wireless novice. I know that WEP is not the best security, but
> > until I do better, I need help setting up WEP 128.
> >
> > On my wireless router, it gives me a choice between enable and disable
which
> > is obvious. But below that it has fields for 4 numbers, presently filled
> > with 0s. What do I enter in these fields? Do I just make up an
alphanumeric
> > number?
>
> Yup. They're Hexadecimal digits (0123456789ABCDEF).
>
> You need to fill out at least one of the keys. I don't really know
> what keys 2-4 are used for, but perhaps someone who's more WEP savvy
> than me can chime in (as I use WPA).
>
> Some access points have a place you can enter a text key and press a
> button, and it'll generate 4 HEX keys for you based off that.
>
> > Then, do I have to enter the same numbers on the other PCs in the
> > network?
>
> That's correct.
>
> --
> Todd H.
> http://www.toddh.net/

128 and 104 refer to the same WEP keylength. WEP keys are comprised of a
3-byte field called the Initialization Vector (IV), and the remainder,
called the private key. The private key is the part you configure, and must
be the same on the router and all hosts trying to use that key.

A 64-bit key has 8 bytes: a 5-byte private key, and the 3-byte IV. Some
manufacturers refer to it as a 40-bit key, because the private key portion
is 5 bytes, but the entire key is 64 bits. Similarly, a 128-bit key is 13
bytes, or 104 bits, of private key, and 3 bytes, or 24 bits, of IV. Some
manufacturers call it a 104-bit key, referring to the private portion that
you configure, or a 128-bit key, referring to the entire key.

WEP keys can usually be entered in hex or ASCII. Some systems may prompt you
for an ASCII passphrase that generates a WEP private key, but usually a WEP
entry in ASCII is directly used as the private part of the key. Passphrase
key generation is more common with WPA preshared key.

"David Rothman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> i'm using the netgear wrg614v2 and the WEP codes are a little confusing to
> me as well.
>
> i believe if you're using 128 bit encryption, u only need the one key.
>
> what i don't understand is that with my wireless card (the netgear
wgr511),
> the prompt to enter the code is for 104/128 (there is no 104 bit
encryption
> on the wireless router), and when i type in the same passphrase (which
> hopefully will generate the same hex digits) i get a different series.
>
> then i copy down the long hex code from the router and manually input it
> into the card.
>
> does this make sense or am i missing something? thanks
>
>
> "Todd H." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Jeff Malka" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> >
> > > This is a wireless novice. I know that WEP is not the best security,
but
> > > until I do better, I need help setting up WEP 128.
> > >
> > > On my wireless router, it gives me a choice between enable and disable
> which
> > > is obvious. But below that it has fields for 4 numbers, presently
filled
> > > with 0s. What do I enter in these fields? Do I just make up an
> alphanumeric
> > > number?
> >
> > Yup. They're Hexadecimal digits (0123456789ABCDEF).
> >
> > You need to fill out at least one of the keys. I don't really know
> > what keys 2-4 are used for, but perhaps someone who's more WEP savvy
> > than me can chime in (as I use WPA).
> >
> > Some access points have a place you can enter a text key and press a
> > button, and it'll generate 4 HEX keys for you based off that.
> >
> > > Then, do I have to enter the same numbers on the other PCs in the
> > > network?
> >
> > That's correct.
> >
> > --
> > Todd H.
> > http://www.toddh.net/
>
>

"David Rothman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> i'm using the netgear wrg614v2 and the WEP codes are a little confusing to
> me as well.
>
> i believe if you're using 128 bit encryption, u only need the one key.
>
> what i don't understand is that with my wireless card (the netgear
wgr511),
> the prompt to enter the code is for 104/128 (there is no 104 bit
encryption
> on the wireless router), and when i type in the same passphrase (which
> hopefully will generate the same hex digits) i get a different series.
>
> then i copy down the long hex code from the router and manually input it
> into the card.
>
> does this make sense or am i missing something? thanks
>
>
> "Todd H." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Jeff Malka" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
> >
> > > This is a wireless novice. I know that WEP is not the best security,
but
> > > until I do better, I need help setting up WEP 128.
> > >
> > > On my wireless router, it gives me a choice between enable and disable
> which
> > > is obvious. But below that it has fields for 4 numbers, presently
filled
> > > with 0s. What do I enter in these fields? Do I just make up an
> alphanumeric
> > > number?
> >
> > Yup. They're Hexadecimal digits (0123456789ABCDEF).
> >
> > You need to fill out at least one of the keys. I don't really know
> > what keys 2-4 are used for, but perhaps someone who's more WEP savvy
> > than me can chime in (as I use WPA).
> >
> > Some access points have a place you can enter a text key and press a
> > button, and it'll generate 4 HEX keys for you based off that.
> >
> > > Then, do I have to enter the same numbers on the other PCs in the
> > > network?
> >
> > That's correct.

Try this random key generator and copy to clipboard, then just paste it into
the router and wireless client.

http://www.andrewscompanies.com/tools/wep.asp

Jeff Malka wrote:

> This is a wireless novice. I know that WEP is not the best security, but
> until I do better, I need help setting up WEP 128.
>
> On my wireless router, it gives me a choice between enable and disable
> which is obvious. But below that it has fields for 4 numbers, presently
> filled
> with 0s. What do I enter in these fields? Do I just make up an
> alphanumeric number? No help came with the instructions.
>
> Then, do I have to enter the same numbers on the other PCs in the network?

Perhaps if you gave the model, someone might know exactly. However, the
keys have to match on all devices.

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David Rothman wrote:

> i'm using the netgear wrg614v2 and the WEP codes are a little confusing to
> me as well.
>
> i believe if you're using 128 bit encryption, u only need the one key.
>
> what i don't understand is that with my wireless card (the netgear
> wgr511), the prompt to enter the code is for 104/128 (there is no 104 bit
> encryption on the wireless router), and when i type in the same passphrase
> (which hopefully will generate the same hex digits) i get a different
> series.

What is called 128 bit, is actually 104 bits, with the other 8 being the
initialization vector, which is not that secret.


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James Knott wrote:

> What is called 128 bit, is actually 104 bits, with the other 8 being the
> initialization vector, which is not that secret.
>

Correction. That should read "the other 24 being...".


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OK I found the WEP key generator at
http://www.andrewscompanies.com/tools/wep.asp Great tool.

The router I use is DLink DI-514 and it is clear where to enter the WEP code
there. But on my Toshiba laptop running XP with built in wireless NIC
(Agere driver), there seems to be nowhere to insert the same WEP key.
Neighborhood properties has a place to enable or not WEP encryption, but
nowhere to insert the code.

Any suggestions?

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"James Knott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> > This is a wireless novice. I know that WEP is not the best security, but
> > until I do better, I need help setting up WEP 128.
> >
> > On my wireless router, it gives me a choice between enable and disable
> > which is obvious. But below that it has fields for 4 numbers, presently
> > filled
> > with 0s. What do I enter in these fields? Do I just make up an
> > alphanumeric number? No help came with the instructions.
> >
> > Then, do I have to enter the same numbers on the other PCs in the
network?
>
> Perhaps if you gave the model, someone might know exactly. However, the
> keys have to match on all devices.
>
> --
>
> Fundamentalism is fundamentally wrong.
>
> To reply to this message, replace everything to the left of "@" with
> james.knott.

Okay you do NOT need a key geberator, you can use any 10 letters,
numbers or combinations your little heart desires! Most people put in
the actual numbers or letters, THEY ARE CASE SENSITIVE!
Yes you need to put it in ALL wireless devices so they can all
communicate with the router and each other.
On my Toshiba you go into the network connections, wireless network
connection, wireless network tab, and then under preferred networks,
click on yours and then properties. Under association put a check in
the data encryption(WEP enabled) and type in the key that you put in
the router EXACTLY the same!!!

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:23:11 GMT, "Jeff Malka" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>OK I found the WEP key generator at
>http://www.andrewscompanies.com/tools/wep.asp Great tool.
>
>The router I use is DLink DI-514 and it is clear where to enter the WEP code
>there. But on my Toshiba laptop running XP with built in wireless NIC
>(Agere driver), there seems to be nowhere to insert the same WEP key.
>Neighborhood properties has a place to enable or not WEP encryption, but
>nowhere to insert the code.
>
>Any suggestions?