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mcnewsxp
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      06-05-2004, 02:10 PM
where does one find WEP codes to use with wireless routers?

thanks much,
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      06-05-2004, 02:52 PM
mcnewsxp wrote:

> where does one find WEP codes to use with wireless routers?
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> thanks much,
> mcnews
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>

Just make them up. Obvously you need the same key on all the PCs too.
 
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      06-05-2004, 03:21 PM
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> > where does one find WEP codes to use with wireless routers?
> >
> > thanks much,
> > mcnews
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> >

> Just make them up. Obvously you need the same key on all the PCs too.


over my head.
can you give an example or explain further.


 
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      06-05-2004, 04:03 PM
Take a look at this wireless key generator available from here, I've nothing
to do with this guy - but I'm sure he wont mind me saying that he's got some
other great software on his site too!


http://www.tnk-bootblock.co.uk/prods/misc/index.php

Lee


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> > > where does one find WEP codes to use with wireless routers?
> > >
> > > thanks much,
> > > mcnews
> > >
> > >

> > Just make them up. Obvously you need the same key on all the PCs too.

>
> over my head.
> can you give an example or explain further.
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      06-05-2004, 05:00 PM
WEP is encryption. There is no WEP "code", but there are keys. You
arbitrarily decide what the key is. Most routers and client adapters let you
enter the key as either a string of ASCII (readable text) characters, or as
a string of hexadecimal digits. Most equipment also offers a choice of
keylengths - 64 (sometimes called 40) and 128 are most common, 152 and 256
are also available. Some vendors, like Netgear and Linksys, offer a
"passphrase key generator", which is a utility that converts a passphrase
(another arbitrarily-chosen text string) into a pseudo-random hexadecimal
key value.

You can create lists of up to 4 WEP keys on the router and the clients. but
for simplicity I recommend you use only 1 key. Use the same keylength on the
router and the clients (the longest allowed length common to all equipment).
If you don't have a passphrase key generator, you can search the web to find
one, or you can just make up keys. 64-bit keys must be exactly 5 ASCII
characters (10 hex digits), and 128-bit keys must be exactly 13 ASCII
characters (26 hex digits). Be sure to type *exactly* the same string into
the router and each client, and be sure you've chosen the same data entry
method (ASCII or hex) and the same keylength.

"mcnewsxp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >
> > > where does one find WEP codes to use with wireless routers?
> > >
> > > thanks much,
> > > mcnews
> > >
> > >

> > Just make them up. Obvously you need the same key on all the PCs too.

>
> over my head.
> can you give an example or explain further.
>
>



 
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      06-05-2004, 05:07 PM
is this something *remotely* like a password?


 
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      06-05-2004, 05:22 PM
No. A password is used for authentication only - it's a phrase that only you
are supposed to know, and if you provide it when challenged, it indicates
that you are who you say you are. At least, that's the theory, in practice
passwords have obvious limitations.

A WEP key is for encryption, not authentication. If you have WEP enabled,
every single 802.11 frame is transmitted with the payload encrypted.
Receivers - which must have the same key as transmitters - decrypt the
payload when the frame is received. The WEP key is merely used make the
scrambling on your network different from the scrambling on your neighbors'
nework.

If you use encryption, then you also get authentication, since no networking
is possible unless all stations use the same key. And it's better than
password authentication, since that only establishes identity in one
direction. WEP is a weak encryption system, and there are lots of tools to
crack it. But, if you use the longest possible keylength, and change keys
often, it provides greatly improved security.

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      06-05-2004, 07:22 PM
ok. i think i git it.
thanks for details.


"gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> No. A password is used for authentication only - it's a phrase that only

you
> are supposed to know, and if you provide it when challenged, it indicates
> that you are who you say you are. At least, that's the theory, in practice
> passwords have obvious limitations.
>
> A WEP key is for encryption, not authentication. If you have WEP enabled,
> every single 802.11 frame is transmitted with the payload encrypted.
> Receivers - which must have the same key as transmitters - decrypt the
> payload when the frame is received. The WEP key is merely used make the
> scrambling on your network different from the scrambling on your

neighbors'
> nework.
>
> If you use encryption, then you also get authentication, since no

networking
> is possible unless all stations use the same key. And it's better than
> password authentication, since that only establishes identity in one
> direction. WEP is a weak encryption system, and there are lots of tools to
> crack it. But, if you use the longest possible keylength, and change keys
> often, it provides greatly improved security.
>
> "mcnewsxp" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:s5nwc.13558$(E-Mail Removed) hlink.net...
> > is this something *remotely* like a password?
> >
> >
> >

>
>



 
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      06-06-2004, 09:09 AM

"gary" mentioned...
> for simplicity I recommend you use only 1 key.


One router here for certain, I think another also do require four keys
client and ap in same order when config'd as a Shared system.



 
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      06-06-2004, 01:43 PM
how do client PCs use or see the keys?


 
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