Well within 6km but still fail. What is the future?

Does anyone know what plans BT has for sorting out blackspot areas on
enabled exchanges?

I live barely two miles from my exchange and recently found out from a BT
guy working on a phone cab outside the property that our line length is
4.2km.

Yet BT repeatedly fail the line and it amazes me how a line nearly 2km
inside the limit can not support ADSL.

So what plans does BT have for areas like this? Are we just gonna be left
behind?

I wonder whether BT includes areas such as ours in their broadband
availability statistics as we are well within 6km, but that certainly
doesn't mean we can get it does it?

It's probably got to do with line quality as to why you can't get ADSL.

If you have sections of your line which are aluminium rather than copper it
drastically reduces the distance ADSL can travel.

A new line might be an option assuming they give you one which is copper all
the way.

On 2/11/03 12:33 am, in article
Xns942758E39A12nospamkthxbyecouk@195.92.193.157, "James"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Does anyone know what plans BT has for sorting out blackspot areas on
> enabled exchanges?
>
> I live barely two miles from my exchange and recently found out from a BT
> guy working on a phone cab outside the property that our line length is
> 4.2km.
>
> Yet BT repeatedly fail the line and it amazes me how a line nearly 2km
> inside the limit can not support ADSL.
>
> So what plans does BT have for areas like this? Are we just gonna be left
> behind?
>
> I wonder whether BT includes areas such as ours in their broadband
> availability statistics as we are well within 6km, but that certainly
> doesn't mean we can get it does it?
>
Once BT have done all the "viable" exchanges, they will undoubtedly come
under pressure to solve issues like yours. Whilst it is some time away, it
will come to you IMO, but not as long as they have viable exchanges to
address.

In short, there are no plans I guess, as there isn't the money to both
enable exchanges and update cables which fit their original purpose. Once
the former is done, I guess they will start the latter as its the next best
form of revenue available to them.

James wrote:

> Does anyone know what plans BT has for sorting out blackspot areas on
> enabled exchanges?
>
> I live barely two miles from my exchange and recently found out from a BT
> guy working on a phone cab outside the property that our line length is
> 4.2km.
>
> Yet BT repeatedly fail the line and it amazes me how a line nearly 2km
> inside the limit can not support ADSL.
>
> So what plans does BT have for areas like this? Are we just gonna be left
> behind?
>
> I wonder whether BT includes areas such as ours in their broadband
> availability statistics as we are well within 6km, but that certainly
> doesn't mean we can get it does it?
>
>
>
>
>

what resluts do you get from the telephone number checker?

Bat Guano <bat.guano@talk21dotcom> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> what resluts do you get from the telephone number checker?
>


I now get line "You exchange is enabled but you live too far away". I don't
live too far away though, I'm just unlucky to have a poor line.

It used to be you "you should be able to receive broadband" but I gather
they changed it after I tried ordering a couple of times.

Do any of your neighbours have Broadband?

If, so ordering a new line may help.

Dan


"James" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns94277C49AB179nospamkthxbyecouk@195.92.193. 157...
> Bat Guano <bat.guano@talk21dotcom> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > what resluts do you get from the telephone number checker?
> >
>
>
> I now get line "You exchange is enabled but you live too far away". I
don't
> live too far away though, I'm just unlucky to have a poor line.
>
> It used to be you "you should be able to receive broadband" but I gather
> they changed it after I tried ordering a couple of times.

I have exactly the same problem. I live 4km from theexchanged but failed the
line test.

If u order a new line will it not just go through the same cables to the
exchange, apart from having a different line to the pole outside your house,
which is generally just a few metres.

"Dan Manley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3fa62511$0$9469$(E-Mail Removed). ..
> Do any of your neighbours have Broadband?
>
> If, so ordering a new line may help.
>
> Dan
>
>
> "James" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns94277C49AB179nospamkthxbyecouk@195.92.193. 157...
> > Bat Guano <bat.guano@talk21dotcom> wrote in
> > news:(E-Mail Removed):
> >
> > > what resluts do you get from the telephone number checker?
> > >
> >
> >
> > I now get line "You exchange is enabled but you live too far away". I
> don't
> > live too far away though, I'm just unlucky to have a poor line.
> >
> > It used to be you "you should be able to receive broadband" but I gather
> > they changed it after I tried ordering a couple of times.
>
>

"Dan Manley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3fa62511$0$9469
$(E-Mail Removed):

> Do any of your neighbours have Broadband?
>
> If, so ordering a new line may help.
>
> Dan

The neighbours who I know don't have broadband and they've never
attempted to get it either.

The strange thing is that if I ented their number in the BT checker it
gives them a Green code for 512k and an Amber for 1 - 2 mb.

Does the green code mean that they'll definitely be able to receive it
then?

I've not tried ordering a new line so I may give that a go. Has anyone
had any success with this?

Thanks

On 3 Nov 2003 16:45:02 GMT, James <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Dan Manley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:3fa62511$0$9469
>$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> Do any of your neighbours have Broadband?
>>
>> If, so ordering a new line may help.
>>
>> Dan
>
>The neighbours who I know don't have broadband and they've never
>attempted to get it either.
>
>The strange thing is that if I ented their number in the BT checker it
>gives them a Green code for 512k and an Amber for 1 - 2 mb.
>
>Does the green code mean that they'll definitely be able to receive it
>then?
>
>I've not tried ordering a new line so I may give that a go. Has anyone
>had any success with this?
>
>Thanks


As A BT Customer, you are entitled to a line that is capable of
handling any traffic that is reasonable to expect.
If you live within the specified range, and are unable to get ADSL due
to line degradation. BT Are obliged to replace the cabling. Even if it
means digging up a trench all the way from your house to the exchange.
that is why you are paying as much for your BT line, as I am, but I
can do more with mine.
Don`t take BT`s bullshit, they are contractually obliged to provide
you with an equal service as any other of their consumers, including
me.

Slash`n`Burn wrote:
> On 3 Nov 2003 16:45:02 GMT, James <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "Dan Manley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:3fa62511$0$9469 $(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>> Do any of your neighbours have Broadband?
>>>
>>> If, so ordering a new line may help.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>
>> The neighbours who I know don't have broadband and they've never
>> attempted to get it either.
>>
>> The strange thing is that if I ented their number in the BT
>> checker it gives them a Green code for 512k and an Amber for 1 - 2
>> mb.
>>
>> Does the green code mean that they'll definitely be able to
>> receive it then?
>>
>> I've not tried ordering a new line so I may give that a go. Has
>> anyone had any success with this?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
> As A BT Customer, you are entitled to a line that is capable of
> handling any traffic that is reasonable to expect.
> If you live within the specified range, and are unable to get ADSL
> due to line degradation. BT Are obliged to replace the cabling.
> Even if it means digging up a trench all the way from your house to
> the exchange. that is why you are paying as much for your BT line,
> as I am, but I can do more with mine.
> Don`t take BT`s bullshit, they are contractually obliged to provide
> you with an equal service as any other of their consumers, including
> me.

SNIIIFFFFFF

I can smell something & it's not roses...

Little hint, the universal availability of service doesn't apply to
DSL. If the line isn't good enough I'm afraid it's tough



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do it!!!