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Ted
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      07-27-2008, 05:06 PM
I eventually had a go at setting up my wireless network but
it turned out a complete failure and I wound up unplugging
it all and going back to where I started from.

I couldn't get an internet connection at all on the pc cable
connected to the wireless router. On the laptop, I could
pick up a few networks, one of which seemed to be mine as it
was showing as unsecured whereas the others were showing as
secured (plus other network stuff unrelated to me). I
couldn't find any way of restricting the connection on my
laptop to my wireless router nor could I find any way of
securing the connection on the laptop - I clicked on just
everything that seemed likely but no joy. A complete fiasco!

Ted
 
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      07-27-2008, 05:19 PM
Ted wrote:
> On the laptop, I could pick up a few networks,
> one of which seemed to be mine as it was showing as unsecured whereas
> the others were showing as secured (plus other network stuff unrelated
> to me).

First thing is to connect to your router via the cable, login as admin,
change the password and give your network a name you can recognise but
which doesnt reveal your name or address ie dont use "Brownatno10".

You also need to get the internet connection via the router working for
your pc or laptop via the network cable before trying the wireless.
 
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Anthony R. Gold
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      07-27-2008, 10:15 PM
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:19:09 +0100, robert <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> give your network a name you can recognise but
> which doesnt reveal your name or address ie dont use "Brownatno10".


Why is that? Will someone follow along the radio waves and rob your home?
Will announcing the location of the AP make the network any more hackable?
I read so much paranoid stuff like this that I wonder what is on the minds
of those who spread it and so I am moved to ask.

Tony
 
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      07-28-2008, 07:31 AM
Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:19:09 +0100, robert <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> give your network a name you can recognise but
>> which doesnt reveal your name or address ie dont use "Brownatno10".

>
> Why is that? Will someone follow along the radio waves and rob your home?
> Will announcing the location of the AP make the network any more hackable?
> I read so much paranoid stuff like this that I wonder what is on the minds
> of those who spread it and so I am moved to ask.
>
> Tony


With reflection I am converted - but I do not feel comfortable embedding
more personal details than necessary in email addresses and other
transmitted information.

However I would also suggest turning off the SSID broadcast.
 
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John W.
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      07-28-2008, 08:56 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)lid
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> With reflection I am converted - but I do not feel comfortable embedding
> more personal details than necessary in email addresses and other
> transmitted information.
>
> However I would also suggest turning off the SSID broadcast.


At least change it from the default SSID that probably identifies the
model of your router. That could be used to implement a device specific
hack. Most manufacturers prohibit logging onto the router's management
account via the radio to help prevent this but...

Perhaps putting your address in the SSID would allow neighbours to help
you set up security, if you are not able to find out the method :-) (I
wonder who "julie" is around here - I've used that open connection at
the bottom of the garden rather than go back to switch mine on...)
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      07-28-2008, 09:43 AM
On 27 Jul, 23:15, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:19:09 +0100, robert <rob...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > give your network a name you can recognise but
> > which doesnt reveal your name or address *ie dont use "Brownatno10".

>
> Why is that? *Will someone follow along the radio waves and rob your home?
> Will announcing the location of the AP make the network any more hackable?
> I read so much paranoid stuff like this that I wonder what is on the minds
> of those who spread it and so I am moved to ask.
>
> Tony


Why would you want to put personally-identifiable info in given the
choice?
Sure, it probably won't hurt, but it definitely won't hurt if you
don't.
I can think of a couple of scenarios - people turning off routers when
they're out or on holiday, for example, might give someone a clue you
weren't at home. Sniffing ethernet traffic might reveal emails that
did similar.
Just call it something memorable but cryptic.

To the OP: get it working with a cable first, then sort out the
wireless.
Find the IP address of your router by start..run..cmd and typing
"ipconfig /all". note the gateway address numbers, and in internet
explorer type in http://your.gateway.ip and hit enter. You should be
asked to login to your router. Check the username/password settings
and if you're not sure ring up your ISP whilst you're logged in and
ask them.
Once you've got a wired connection working, you can setup the
wireless. Get it working without encryption and then turn on WPA and
pick a password.

Ric
 
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      07-29-2008, 02:10 PM
robert wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>> On the laptop, I could pick up a few networks, one of which seemed to
>> be mine as it was showing as unsecured whereas the others were showing
>> as secured (plus other network stuff unrelated to me).


> First thing is to connect to your router via the cable, login as admin,
> change the password and give your network a name you can recognise but
> which doesnt reveal your name or address ie dont use "Brownatno10".
>
> You also need to get the internet connection via the router working for
> your pc or laptop via the network cable before trying the wireless.


I made the various name changes but couldn't get an internet
connection on the pc when the pc was connected to the
wireless router by cable. However, I could get a wireless
connection on the laptop (a few networks!) but I couldn't
get the connection secured.

Ted
 
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Clint Sharp
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      07-29-2008, 10:54 PM
In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Anthony R. Gold
<not-for-(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Why is that? Will someone follow along the radio waves and rob your home?

It announces that you have a PC or laptop which makes your home worth a
punt, after all the scrotes use mobile phones to hunt bluetooth enabled
sat nav and other electronics in car parks. Plenty of WiFi enabled
mobiles kicking around now so it's just a matter of time if it's not
happening already.
>Will announcing the location of the AP make the network any more hackable?

Unlikely if it's been configured properly.
>I read so much paranoid stuff like this that I wonder what is on the minds
>of those who spread it and so I am moved to ask.

It's easy, having family in the police force and knowing (reformed I
might add) people who's prior occupations involved relieving people of
their possessions, makes you realise that little tips like that are
worth knowing because it's so simple to fix (if you were daft enough)
>
>Tony


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