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IS WAR CHALKING ILLIGAL IN THE UK ?

 
 
amstereofan
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      12-29-2003, 10:01 PM
www.warchalking.org

Who get's their ADSL for free then ?! Own up!




 
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Rusty
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      12-29-2003, 10:11 PM
amstereofan wrote:
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> Who get's their ADSL for free then ?! Own up!
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http://www.consume.net

 
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      12-29-2003, 10:17 PM

"Rusty" <rusty.soft@com> wrote in message
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> amstereofan wrote:
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Had no idea. Freaky


 
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      12-29-2003, 10:37 PM

"Rusty" <rusty.soft@com> wrote in message
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> amstereofan wrote:
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Surely if the person is running firewall these WLAN's can't be accessed ?



 
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Martin²
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      12-30-2003, 02:08 AM
>Surely if the person is running firewall these WLAN's can't be accessed ?

You wireless is in the air, free for any one within range to 'sniff' (read)
and that is behind your router / firewall.
Therefore you have to set up wifi encryption to prevent people reading your
traffic - (WEP can be cracked, WPA allegedly isn't entirely safe either).
Furthermore you have to set up MAC filtering to prevent people logging on to
your wireless network and using it, again this too can be defeated.
Actually the best security is to try to make sure your signal is not
accessible outside your premises.
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Dave Stanton
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      12-30-2003, 07:34 AM

> You wireless is in the air, free for any one within range to 'sniff'
> (read) and that is behind your router / firewall. Therefore you have to


> Martin


Dosen't have to be behind your firewall, use seperate firewall or replan
your installation.

Dave

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tHatDudeUK
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      12-30-2003, 07:40 AM

"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Actually the best security is to try to make sure your signal is not
> accessible outside your premises.


Lead lined walls, lol.


 
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Ian G
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      12-30-2003, 10:04 AM
amstereofan wrote:

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> "Rusty" <rusty.soft@com> wrote in message
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>> amstereofan wrote:
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>> http://www.consume.net
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> Had no idea. Freaky


Simple solution to this problem cat5 cable ,I am amazed that more people
have not realised that it is a security blackhole(like an ordinary hole but
bigger).
If you must use wireless try encrypting your data first then send it to a
proxy server which is hard wired to the adsl. Else try setting up an ipSec
tunnel to your router if it is capable of that.
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Ian Stirling
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      12-30-2003, 12:31 PM
Martin? <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Surely if the person is running firewall these WLAN's can't be accessed ?

>
> You wireless is in the air, free for any one within range to 'sniff' (read)
> and that is behind your router / firewall.
> Therefore you have to set up wifi encryption to prevent people reading your
> traffic - (WEP can be cracked, WPA allegedly isn't entirely safe either).
> Furthermore you have to set up MAC filtering to prevent people logging on to
> your wireless network and using it, again this too can be defeated.
> Actually the best security is to try to make sure your signal is not
> accessible outside your premises.


Practically impossible without adding shielding.
To take one extreme, if I was wardriving for a reason (hacking
networks for money), I'd go with a fake luggage carrier on a roof-rack,
and a dish inside it, for a range of somewhere around 7 times the range
of an omni antenna.
In a large lightly modified van, or lorry, concealing a 2 or 3m dish
is quite possible, for well over 25 times the range.
(with severe restrictions on pointing)

The only effective screening is either from using a near EM-proof building,
or using cables rather than wireless.

 
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      12-30-2003, 12:33 PM

"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >Surely if the person is running firewall these WLAN's can't be accessed ?

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> You wireless is in the air, free for any one within range to 'sniff'

(read)
> and that is behind your router / firewall.
> Therefore you have to set up wifi encryption to prevent people reading

your
> traffic - (WEP can be cracked, WPA allegedly isn't entirely safe either).


What do you mean traffic, read your emails hack into passwords etc ? What is
WEP / WPA ?

> Furthermore you have to set up MAC filtering to prevent people logging on

to
> your wireless network and using it, again this too can be defeated.
> Actually the best security is to try to make sure your signal is not
> accessible outside your premises.


How will you know someone is connected to your wireless network ?
Why is'nt the Gov making this activity illigal etc ?


 
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