Is WAP2 the same as WAP-PSK ???

I have a dell with WAP-PSK that I can't get to validate identity
on a WAP2 protected wireless network.

Thanks!!!

I perhaps should have also said both are set with AES encryption.


>I have a dell with WAP-PSK that I can't get to validate identity
> on a WAP2 protected wireless network.

On 24 Aug, 21:31, "Lily" <l3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I perhaps should have also said both are set with AES encryption.
>
>
>
> >I have a dell with WAP-PSK that I can't get to validate identity
> > on a WAP2 protected wireless network.- Hide quoted text -
>


No.

WPA != WPA2

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> No.
>
> WPA != WPA2


I definitely understand "No", but I don't understand what
the "!" stands for. Thanks for your answer. Do you know
of a link that spells out the difference between WAP2 and
WAP-PSK?

"Lily" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I have a dell with WAP-PSK that I can't get to validate identity
>on a WAP2 protected wireless network.

The reason you may not be finding anything is that you have two
characters transposed in the acronym. It's WPA, not WAP.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access>

WPA2 is not the same same WPA-PSK. The encryption methods are
different (TKIP for WPA and AES for WPA2). The authentication methods
are also different (Michael for WPA and MIC for WPA2).

If you need help with some kind of wireless problem, it might be
useful if you would describe what hardware and software you're using,
what you are trying to accomplish, and what error messages you are
getting.

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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Lily" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a dell with WAP-PSK that I can't get to validate identity
>>on a WAP2 protected wireless network.
>
> The reason you may not be finding anything is that you have two
> characters transposed in the acronym. It's WPA, not WAP.

You know, I am confused about the acronym. I see it as WAP in
lots of places and WPA in others. Why is that?? I may be mistaken,
(and I am not at the same location as the laptop right now), but I would
have sworn, that it said WAP. But like I say, I could be wrong.

>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access>
>
> WPA2 is not the same same WPA-PSK. The encryption methods are
> different (TKIP for WPA and AES for WPA2). The authentication methods
> are also different (Michael for WPA and MIC for WPA2).


I thought WAP2 (or WPA2) came in either AES or TKIP. Is that incorrect?
Not that it is important to my question.


>
> If you need help with some kind of wireless problem, it might be
> useful if you would describe what hardware and software you're using,
> what you are trying to accomplish, and what error messages you are
> getting.

It is both a wired and wireless network at the home of a friend. The
husband
set it up as WAP2 - AES (or WPA2 - AES). One of the laptops can't connect.
It is a Dell Inspiron 700m. IT has a choice of WEP, or WAP-PSK, or WAP-TKIP
(I think - I'm not there but those are the notes I made). I set it on
WAP-PSK with
AES and it won't connect. Naturally, I put in the passphrase, but still no
connection.

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Lily" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a dell with WAP-PSK that I can't get to validate identity
>>on a WAP2 protected wireless network.
>
> The reason you may not be finding anything is that you have two
> characters transposed in the acronym. It's WPA, not WAP.

Thanks Jeff, I guess I am too tired today. It is WPA2 (not WAP2).
The router is set for WPA2 and AES. But the Dell Inspiron 700m does
not have a WPA2 option. It only has WPA-PSK. Is that what I can't
connect??

On 2007-08-25, Lily intrigued me by typing:
>
> "Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Lily" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>
>>>I have a dell with WAP-PSK that I can't get to validate identity
>>>on a WAP2 protected wireless network.
>>
>> The reason you may not be finding anything is that you have two
>> characters transposed in the acronym. It's WPA, not WAP.
>
> Thanks Jeff, I guess I am too tired today. It is WPA2 (not WAP2).
> The router is set for WPA2 and AES. But the Dell Inspiron 700m does
> not have a WPA2 option. It only has WPA-PSK. Is that what I can't
> connect??
>
>
What is the make and model number of your wireless router? Double check the
wireless security options on your Dell Inspiron 700m. Although I haven't
researched the specs of that particular PC, many wireless devices offer the
following choices: WEP, WPA (Radius), WPA-PSK (TKIP and/or AES), WPA2 (AES).
You stated that your Inspiron *only* has WPA-PSK. I am assuming that is
what you or someone else set it to. To simplify matters, being that your
PC's wireless device is already set to WPA-PSK, check to see if it gives you
an option for the cipher (TKIP or AES). If it does not, assume that it is
TKIP, then adjust the options in the wireless router's menu to match that of
the Inspiron. If it gives you a choice between TKIP and AES, choose AES and
then adjust the wireless router to match. Of course, make sure your
passphrase is the same on both devices. If the settings on both devices
don't match, they will not be able to communicate with each other which, in
turn, means that you will not be able to connect. I hope I made sense. I'm
very tired and am getting ready for bed. Take care.

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(Ubuntu User# 16887)

"Lily" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>You know, I am confused about the acronym. I see it as WAP in
>lots of places and WPA in others. Why is that??

WAP is usually a "wireless access point". That's rather easy to
confuse with WPA (wi-fi protected access). Too error is human as I've
mangled acronyms myself more than a few times.

> I thought WAP2 (or WPA2) came in either AES or TKIP. Is that incorrect?

That's just one of the differences. Some routers allow a choice of
using TKIP or AES encryption with WPA. However, WPA2 is always AES.
There are also substantial differences in the authentication
mechanisms between WPA and WPA2. See the Wikipedia article or:
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0505.mspx>
for details.

>Not that it is important to my question.

Yep.

>It is both a wired and wireless network at the home of a friend. The
>husband
>set it up as WAP2 - AES (or WPA2 - AES).

It's WPA2. Try not to become part of the problem.
WPA2 is always AES encryption. However, you have a choice of
WPA2-Personal (also known as WPA2-PSK) or WPA2-Enterprise (also known
as WPA2-RADIUS).

>One of the laptops can't connect.
>It is a Dell Inspiron 700m. IT has a choice of WEP, or WAP-PSK, or WAP-TKIP
>(I think - I'm not there but those are the notes I made). I set it on
>WAP-PSK with
>AES and it won't connect. Naturally, I put in the passphrase, but still no
>connection.

Does the Dell 700m have an operating system? I'll assume XP Home.

There are some Windoze updates for wireless that include WPA2 support.
See:
<http://support.microsoft.com/?id=917021>
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2726F32F-D52B-4F84-ACE8-F7FC20195769&displaylang=en>


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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> There are some Windoze updates for wireless that include WPA2 support.
> See:
> <http://support.microsoft.com/?id=917021>
> <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2726F32F-D52B-4F84-ACE8-F7FC20195769&displaylang=en>

Thanks VERY much and I just downloaded (but actually they refer to the same
download
WindowsXP-KB917021-v3-x86-ENU.