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Karsten Jursch
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      04-23-2005, 09:46 AM
I have an access point model D-Link DWL-2000AP Rev. B running Firmware
V2.06 dated 03.03.2004 (the older one, not the DWL-2000AP+ model)

It is equiped with an external antenna model D-Link ANT24-1500 connected
with D-Link ECB-ANT240500 external antenna cable which is 3m long. I am
aware that this cable is too long and I should buy D-Link ECB-ANT240800
which is only 50cm long...

This works quite good except some corners where I have no connection or
poor signal quality. So I'm looking for some WLAN repeater which
supports 54 Mbit/s (IEEE 802.11g) and I have some questions..

Which models do you recommend? I just know of a Siemens model which is
probably not compatible to my access point...

Can I buy 2 repeaters and place them on different corners.? Does this work?

Best regards
Karsten Jursch
 
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      04-23-2005, 11:40 AM
Karsten Jursch wrote:
> I have an access point model D-Link DWL-2000AP Rev. B running Firmware
> V2.06 dated 03.03.2004 (the older one, not the DWL-2000AP+ model)
>
> It is equiped with an external antenna model D-Link ANT24-1500 connected
> with D-Link ECB-ANT240500 external antenna cable which is 3m long. I am
> aware that this cable is too long and I should buy D-Link ECB-ANT240800
> which is only 50cm long...
>
> This works quite good except some corners where I have no connection or
> poor signal quality. So I'm looking for some WLAN repeater which
> supports 54 Mbit/s (IEEE 802.11g) and I have some questions..
>
> Which models do you recommend? I just know of a Siemens model which is
> probably not compatible to my access point...
>
> Can I buy 2 repeaters and place them on different corners.? Does this work?
>
> Best regards
> Karsten Jursch

Why not investigate adding a high gain arial ?
 
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William P. N. Smith
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      04-23-2005, 01:42 PM
Karsten Jursch <kj_REMOVE_@emsw.de> wrote:
>I have an access point model D-Link DWL-2000AP Rev. B running Firmware
>V2.06 dated 03.03.2004 (the older one, not the DWL-2000AP+ model)


You have my condolences. Usually I'd say get a repeater that's from
the same manufacturer as your AP, but I've had so much trouble with
D-Link products that that's probably futile.

Repeaters are going to slow down your network, are going to cause you
security nightmares, and are going to be difficult and expensive to
deploy, configure, and operate.

I'd suggest changing the placement of your existing AP and/or antenna,
shortening your antenna wire (as you suggested), or trying a different
brand of AP before trying the repeater route.

>Can I buy 2 repeaters and place them on different corners.? Does this work?


Yes, but since each repeater will cut your usable bandwidth in half,
you'll be down to 1/4 with two of them.

 
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      04-23-2005, 03:48 PM
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:42:25 -0400, William P. N. Smith wrote:

>>Can I buy 2 repeaters and place them on different corners.? Does this work?


>Yes, but since each repeater will cut your usable bandwidth in half,
>you'll be down to 1/4 with two of them.


Not exactly. If the two back to back access points are on different
no-overlapping channels (i.e, 1,6,11), they can transmit and receive
simultaneously. Therefore, they are full-duplex and do NOT suffer
from the 50% bandwidth reduction caused by simplex repeaters. This is
the way I do all my repeaters. Well, all of 2 of them as I really
don't like to use repeaters where a bigger, better, and usually uglier
antenna will do as well or better.

Why does it only rain on weekends?

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      04-23-2005, 04:01 PM
> You have my condolences. Usually I'd say get a repeater that's from
> the same manufacturer as your AP, but I've had so much trouble with
> D-Link products that that's probably futile.


thanks mate, doesn't sound too good..

so if placing AP in another corner/room/ouside is not an option, which
manufacturer do you recommend for AP and repeater(s)?
 
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      04-24-2005, 02:38 AM
Karsten Jursch <kj_REMOVE_@emsw.de> wrote:
>so if placing AP in another corner/room/ouside is not an option, which
>manufacturer do you recommend for AP and repeater(s)?


Well, I've always liked the Linksys products, but haven't had time to
mock up a multi-AP network and see how roaming works. I almost
ordered a couple of Linksys APs last week, but I have to ensure I have
the bandwidth to fiddle with them before I order them, or they'll end
up in the "unused expensive bits" pile...

 
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      04-24-2005, 03:25 AM
William P. N. Smith wrote:
>Well, I've always liked the Linksys products, but haven't had time to
>mock up a multi-AP network and see how roaming works.


I just ran across http://tomsnetworking.com/News_story_more_1046.php
which might be interesting to try...

 
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      04-25-2005, 03:21 PM
Check out the DWL 800AP+. Don't know if it works with the model you have,
but it works superbly with my DI-624 Rev C wireless routers.

"Karsten Jursch" <kj_REMOVE_@emsw.de> wrote in message
news:d4d5if$p4k$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have an access point model D-Link DWL-2000AP Rev. B running Firmware
>V2.06 dated 03.03.2004 (the older one, not the DWL-2000AP+ model)
>
> It is equiped with an external antenna model D-Link ANT24-1500 connected
> with D-Link ECB-ANT240500 external antenna cable which is 3m long. I am
> aware that this cable is too long and I should buy D-Link ECB-ANT240800
> which is only 50cm long...
>
> This works quite good except some corners where I have no connection or
> poor signal quality. So I'm looking for some WLAN repeater which supports
> 54 Mbit/s (IEEE 802.11g) and I have some questions..
>
> Which models do you recommend? I just know of a Siemens model which is
> probably not compatible to my access point...
>
> Can I buy 2 repeaters and place them on different corners.? Does this
> work?
>
> Best regards
> Karsten Jursch



 
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William P. N. Smith
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      04-25-2005, 09:38 PM
"Fearless" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Check out the DWL 800AP+.


Dunno if the "+" is any better than the original DWL-800AP, but I've
got three of the latter that I had to hardwire to each other instead
of using in repeater mode due to all kinds of problems (lockups,
one-way data transfer, etc). D-Link wasn't very helpful, and their
policy of not accepting returns for products that don't work according
to their spec had put me off them...

[Durn, you did get me started! 8*]

 
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      04-26-2005, 04:19 PM
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:38:56 -0400, William P. N. Smith wrote:

>"Fearless" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>Check out the DWL 800AP+.

>
>Dunno if the "+" is any better than the original DWL-800AP,


The + means that it uses the TI ACX100 chipset[1] which I consider to
be excellent. All support PLCC (22mbits/sec) which should be disabled
or it causes erratic traffic flow. I think (guess?) that the non-plus
DWL-800AP uses Atmel chips. As far as I can tell, they are radically
different products, with radically different hardware, different
firmware, and different FCC ID numbers. However, minimize stocking
and return issues as DLink switches vendors, the package and model
numbers remain roughly the same.

I consider repeaters to be an abomination but will spare you the rant.

[1] Except for the DWL-G650+ which uses the TI TNETW1130.

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