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Tyler Adams
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      08-08-2005, 01:57 AM
Here's what I want to do. If its possible, who knows?

I have an old machine from my office running 2000 advanced server with
nothing on it and two laptops with wireless cards on XP Pro.

My internet connection in through a cellular broadband service on one laptop
and no other service. I want to be able to wirelessly connect all three of
these, so that the old machine is connected to the printers, acting as a
print server, and can back up the files on one laptop, say , once a week. I
would also like for the other computers to use the cellular service from the
one laptop on a limited basis.

Years ago, I helped my freind set something like this up using a wired
network. This included plugging everything into a hub - thats pretty much
it. All other computers would automatically use the one computer's dial up
account, etc.

For the wireless system, I can't figure out what I need. it looks like a
wireless access point won't work without a router. A router doesn't look
like it will work without a high speed internet connection. I cant seem to
get any help on this one - everybody just knows how to set up a wireless
system one way, and that's sharing a high speed internet connection.

How do you simply have a few computers sharing files and resources with no
connection to the Internet as the center of it all? I feel stupid even
askign this - it seems liek it would be easy.

Thanks for your help,

Tyler
 
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      08-08-2005, 06:54 AM
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 18:57:02 -0700, Tyler Adams wrote:

> Here's what I want to do. If its possible, who knows?
>
> I have an old machine from my office running 2000 advanced server with
> nothing on it and two laptops with wireless cards on XP Pro.
>
> My internet connection in through a cellular broadband service on one laptop
> and no other service. I want to be able to wirelessly connect all three of
> these, so that the old machine is connected to the printers, acting as a
> print server, and can back up the files on one laptop, say , once a week. I
> would also like for the other computers to use the cellular service from the
> one laptop on a limited basis.
>
> Years ago, I helped my freind set something like this up using a wired
> network. This included plugging everything into a hub - thats pretty much
> it. All other computers would automatically use the one computer's dial up
> account, etc.
>
> For the wireless system, I can't figure out what I need. it looks like a
> wireless access point won't work without a router. A router doesn't look
> like it will work without a high speed internet connection. I cant seem to
> get any help on this one - everybody just knows how to set up a wireless
> system one way, and that's sharing a high speed internet connection.
>
> How do you simply have a few computers sharing files and resources with no
> connection to the Internet as the center of it all? I feel stupid even
> askign this - it seems liek it would be easy.


You may not need a wireless router. You don't need a broadband Internet
connection. You don't say if you intend to share the cellular connection.
You might try to explain the hardware for that device. Knowing something
about your Internet sharing intentions, and the hardware you currently use
for Internet connectivity can help to fine tune your required equipment.

For now, you will need 3 wireless network adapters, 1 for each computer. I
suspect that you can set an IP address for each computer manually, or just
let the network adapter pull an APIPA IP address; something in the range of
169.254.0.0/16, which the adapters will do by default in the absence of a
DHCP server.

If the wireless cards can't negotiate connections with each other in this
ad hoc WLAN, you will have to get a wireless router. You should not have to
configure a WAN connection, though.

If you intend to share the Internet connection, you will need to set up ICS
on the computer with the cellular Internet hardware, then tell ICS to share
that connection. That means manually setting the IP address on each network
adapter to use an IP address in the ICS network range, which is
192.168.0.0/24 (or 192.168.0.0 with the subnet mask set to 255.255.255.0).
You will also need to check ipconfig on the Internet connected computer to
find the DNS servers assigned by your provider; these will need to be
entered manually on each wireless network adapter along with the LAN IP
address.

If the cellular phone hardware is not internal to the computer, there may
be other options.

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      08-08-2005, 12:16 PM

"Tyler Adams" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Here's what I want to do. If its possible, who knows?
>
> I have an old machine from my office running 2000 advanced server with
> nothing on it and two laptops with wireless cards on XP Pro.
>
> My internet connection in through a cellular broadband service on one
> laptop
> and no other service. I want to be able to wirelessly connect all three
> of
> these, so that the old machine is connected to the printers, acting as a
> print server, and can back up the files on one laptop, say , once a week.
> I
> would also like for the other computers to use the cellular service from
> the
> one laptop on a limited basis.


sure, get a wireless card for the 'old machine' server. you can then setup
an ad-hoc network for the 3 machines to share printers and disks, no access
point is required. you can also use the built in 'internet connection
sharing' in the laptop that is connected to the internet to make it
available to the other two machines.


 
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Tyler Adams
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      08-08-2005, 08:14 PM
I actually got all this to work with the ad hoc network as suggested by the
replies. Thank you two very much for your help. Without buying any
equipment, I got the two laptops to talk to each other and share the internet
connection. I need to go buy a wireless card for the old machine, so there's
still some worry about how Windows 2000 AS will handle this.

For Norman, my internet connection is via a card that works with Verizon
wireless. It is a boradband service in this and a few other markets that's
actually pretty good. The connection shows up as a dial up under network
connections and is actually managed by a separate program (which doesn't work
that great).

But, everything now seems to work just fine. I even got the printers to
work off of one of the machines.

Thank you!


"Tyler Adams" wrote:

> Here's what I want to do. If its possible, who knows?
>
> I have an old machine from my office running 2000 advanced server with
> nothing on it and two laptops with wireless cards on XP Pro.
>
> My internet connection in through a cellular broadband service on one laptop
> and no other service. I want to be able to wirelessly connect all three of
> these, so that the old machine is connected to the printers, acting as a
> print server, and can back up the files on one laptop, say , once a week. I
> would also like for the other computers to use the cellular service from the
> one laptop on a limited basis.
>
> Years ago, I helped my freind set something like this up using a wired
> network. This included plugging everything into a hub - thats pretty much
> it. All other computers would automatically use the one computer's dial up
> account, etc.
>
> For the wireless system, I can't figure out what I need. it looks like a
> wireless access point won't work without a router. A router doesn't look
> like it will work without a high speed internet connection. I cant seem to
> get any help on this one - everybody just knows how to set up a wireless
> system one way, and that's sharing a high speed internet connection.
>
> How do you simply have a few computers sharing files and resources with no
> connection to the Internet as the center of it all? I feel stupid even
> askign this - it seems liek it would be easy.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Tyler

 
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