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Discoduck
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      07-21-2007, 01:40 AM
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I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
blocks away that I would like to access. My home is higher than the
resteraunt so I hope that helps.
Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy? Currently I have a D-
Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router. Do I need a
whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?

 
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Adair Winter
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      07-21-2007, 03:50 AM
"Discoduck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> x-no-archive:
> I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
> blocks away that I would like to access. My home is higher than the
> resteraunt so I hope that helps.
> Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy? Currently I have a D-
> Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router. Do I need a
> whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?


Why not buy your own internet connection? Now there's an idea....

Adair


 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      07-21-2007, 07:19 AM
Discoduck <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>x-no-archive:


Nice try:
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/browse_frm/thread/3e18205aa647ac8a/5acbc0a25a81dff6#5acbc0a25a81dff6>

>I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
>blocks away that I would like to access.


Do you have the restaurants permission to use their internet
connection? Normally, it's only for their customers.

>My home is higher than the
>resteraunt so I hope that helps.


Well, lets go through the line of sight quiz:
1. Can you see the restaurant?
2. If not, what's in between you and the restraunt?
3. If yes, can you see the access point at the restaurant?
4. If not, can you position yourself so you can see the access point?
5. How far away (in units of measure other than blocks, paces, or
cubits)?

>Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy?


That depends on how you plan to setup your end. Any particular
computer? Will it accept PCI cards? Or is it a laptop? If a laptop,
does it have USB 2.0? If not, does it have PCMCIA (16bit) or PC
Card(32 bit)? Are you getting the idea? Without a clue what you have
to work with, it's not possible to offer an equipment recommendation.

In addition, there's some question of the antenna location. If you're
going to mount this mess in a window, you can get away with something
fairly crud. However, if the antenna and radio are on the roof, in
the weather, life is a bit more complex.

>Currently I have a D-
>Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router.


DI-524 rev A, B, C, or D? Look on the serial number tag. However, it
doesn't matter as the DI-524 won't work. What you need is some kind
of client adapter or wireless client bridge. It can also be part of
the antenna and powered by PoE (Power over Ethernet). Lots of
options, none of which the DI-524 can do. It's strictly a wireless
router, not a client adapter. If it had a "client mode", it could be
used, but it doesn't. Checking...
<http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/di524_revD/h_wireless.html>
Nope. No client mode.

>Do I need a
>whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?


Not a router. Some kind of client adapter depending on what kind of
unspecified computer you're using. Lay off the boosters as they only
cause more problems than they solve. Details on request.

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      07-21-2007, 06:02 PM
On Jul 20, 8:50 pm, "Adair Winter" <ada...@swbell.net> wrote:
> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > x-no-archive:
> > I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
> > blocks away that I would like to access. My home is higher than the
> > resteraunt so I hope that helps.
> > Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy? Currently I have a D-
> > Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router. Do I need a
> > whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?

>
> Why not buy your own internet connection? Now there's an idea....
>
> Adair


Why don't you read my post properly? Now there is an idea....
I state I have the Internet at home.

 
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      07-21-2007, 06:03 PM
On Jul 21, 12:19 am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> hath wroth:
>
> >x-no-archive:

>
> Nice try:
> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.internet.wireless/browse_frm/threa...>
>
> >I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
> >blocks away that I would like to access.

>
> Do you have the restaurants permission to use their internet
> connection? Normally, it's only for their customers.


I have the Internet at home. I just want to access it from the
restaurant

>
> >My home is higher than the
> >resteraunt so I hope that helps.

>
> Well, lets go through the line of sight quiz:
> 1. Can you see the restaurant?
> 2. If not, what's in between you and the restraunt?
> 3. If yes, can you see the access point at the restaurant?
> 4. If not, can you position yourself so you can see the access point?
> 5. How far away (in units of measure other than blocks, paces, or
> cubits)?
>
> >Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy?

>
> That depends on how you plan to setup your end. Any particular
> computer? Will it accept PCI cards? Or is it a laptop? If a laptop,
> does it have USB 2.0? If not, does it have PCMCIA (16bit) or PC
> Card(32 bit)? Are you getting the idea? Without a clue what you have
> to work with, it's not possible to offer an equipment recommendation.
>
> In addition, there's some question of the antenna location. If you're
> going to mount this mess in a window, you can get away with something
> fairly crud. However, if the antenna and radio are on the roof, in
> the weather, life is a bit more complex.
>
> >Currently I have a D-
> >Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router.

>
> DI-524 rev A, B, C, or D? Look on the serial number tag. However, it
> doesn't matter as the DI-524 won't work. What you need is some kind
> of client adapter or wireless client bridge. It can also be part of
> the antenna and powered by PoE (Power over Ethernet). Lots of
> options, none of which the DI-524 can do. It's strictly a wireless
> router, not a client adapter. If it had a "client mode", it could be
> used, but it doesn't. Checking...
> <http://www.support.dlink.com/emulators/di524_revD/h_wireless.html>
> Nope. No client mode.
>
> >Do I need a
> >whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?

>
> Not a router. Some kind of client adapter depending on what kind of
> unspecified computer you're using. Lay off the boosters as they only
> cause more problems than they solve. Details on request.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558



 
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      07-21-2007, 06:09 PM
On Jul 20, 8:50 pm, "Adair Winter" <ada...@swbell.net> wrote:
> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > x-no-archive:
> > I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
> > blocks away that I would like to access. My home is higher than the
> > resteraunt so I hope that helps.
> > Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy? Currently I have a D-
> > Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router. Do I need a
> > whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?

>
> Why not buy your own internet connection? Now there's an idea....
>
> Adair


Why not read my post properly? Or even the subect line. Now there's
an idea...

 
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      07-21-2007, 06:13 PM

"Discoduck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> > Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy? Currently I have a D-
>> > Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router. Do I need a
>> > whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?

>>


My two cents.......why not try what you have and then report back? Get your
router as high as you can, use a parabolic antenna (easy to make) and try it
out?
3 blocks is not far. What IS important is line of sight, obstacles in either
location, wireless client device, etc....


 
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      07-21-2007, 06:34 PM
On Jul 21, 11:13 am, "Travis McGee" <rukidd...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Discoduck" <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:(E-Mail Removed) ups.com...
>
> >> > Any suggestion how to do this or what to buy? Currently I have a D-
> >> > Link AirPlus G DI-524 802.11g/2.4GHz Wireless Router. Do I need a
> >> > whole new router or can I buy a booster of some sort?

>
> My two cents.......why not try what you have and then report back? Get your
> router as high as you can, use a parabolic antenna (easy to make) and try it
> out?
> 3 blocks is not far. What IS important is line of sight, obstacles in either
> location, wireless client device, etc....


Thanks Travis. I haven't moved into the place yet but from past
experience I'm fairly confident it won't make it (yet). There are
buildings in the way which is why I'm hoping the fact I'm higher up,
will be helpful.
Now I'll google "parabolic antenna"

 
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      07-21-2007, 06:43 PM
Discoduck <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>> >I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
>> >blocks away that I would like to access.

>>
>> Do you have the restaurants permission to use their internet
>> connection? Normally, it's only for their customers.


>I have the Internet at home. I just want to access it from the
>restaurant


There's now two of us that have read this to mean that you want access
the restraunt wi-fi. How would you interpret this sentence:
"...there is a restaurant... that I would like to access."
You might want to work on the grammar.

Anyway, half my comments still apply, except backwards. Unfortunately,
you won't be able to do much with your laptop or whatever you drag to
the restaurant. Big antennas won't work very well inside, especially
from random tables and locations. The big antenna will have to be at
your home end, and that will only work if you have line of sight.

Incidentally, thanks for ignoring all my requests for more
information. That saves me lots of time in not having to solve your
problem.

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      07-21-2007, 07:09 PM
On Jul 21, 11:43 am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Discoduck <fornewsgro...@shaw.ca> hath wroth:
>
> >> >I have the Internet at home, but there is a restaurant less than three
> >> >blocks away that I would like to access.

>
> >> Do you have the restaurants permission to use their internet
> >> connection? Normally, it's only for their customers.

> >I have the Internet at home. I just want to access it from the
> >restaurant

>
> There's now two of us that have read this to mean that you want access
> the restraunt wi-fi. How would you interpret this sentence:
> "...there is a restaurant... that I would like to access."
> You might want to work on the grammar.



Actually the grammar is fine. You made the assumption because most
people ask about the opposite. What part of "Want to access my
connection from about 2-3 blocks away" and "I have the Internet at
home" did you understand? So you may want to work on your reading
comprehension.


>
> Anyway, half my comments still apply, except backwards. Unfortunately,
> you won't be able to do much with your laptop or whatever you drag to
> the restaurant. Big antennas won't work very well inside, especially
> from random tables and locations. The big antenna will have to be at
> your home end, and that will only work if you have line of sight.


thanks for the info.

>
> Incidentally, thanks for ignoring all my requests for more
> information. That saves me lots of time in not having to solve your
> problem.


It sounds like you didn't understand the problem so you couldn't have
solved it anyway.
You're welcome.

 
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